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Hi guys,
I'm hoping someone with some knowledge/experience can advise me.
We've had some work done on our house which included building an attached double garage with room above. The ridge is just marginally higher than the soffit of the existing house.
We are now at the point of the tiles going on. It has been felt and battened, but I underestimated the lead time on the tiles (rosemary plains). I have ordered the tiles and we have (we hope) selected a competent roofer. The roofer has made it clear that his quote didn't include scaffolding, however, another firm we had in to quote said that they wouldn't bother with scaffolding. The structure itself was built using platforms.
I don't want the site to be unsafe, but equally, the £1500 outlay (approximately) would cover the cost of the roller door.
Any advice welcome.
Thank you.
I'm hoping someone with some knowledge/experience can advise me.
We've had some work done on our house which included building an attached double garage with room above. The ridge is just marginally higher than the soffit of the existing house.
We are now at the point of the tiles going on. It has been felt and battened, but I underestimated the lead time on the tiles (rosemary plains). I have ordered the tiles and we have (we hope) selected a competent roofer. The roofer has made it clear that his quote didn't include scaffolding, however, another firm we had in to quote said that they wouldn't bother with scaffolding. The structure itself was built using platforms.
I don't want the site to be unsafe, but equally, the £1500 outlay (approximately) would cover the cost of the roller door.
Any advice welcome.
Thank you.
Thanks. The roofer we've chosen is a sole trader/self employed. He's essentially providing labour only (just himself and possibly a labourer on a couple of days).
Reading the link you sent, it would seem as if it's up to the roofer himself to determine.
Would you require scaffolding to tile a 1.5 storey roof? It's a genuine question. I don't want to pay for scaffolding if it's not necessary - nor though do I want a cowboy taking risks in order to save a few quid.
Reading the link you sent, it would seem as if it's up to the roofer himself to determine.
Would you require scaffolding to tile a 1.5 storey roof? It's a genuine question. I don't want to pay for scaffolding if it's not necessary - nor though do I want a cowboy taking risks in order to save a few quid.
You would need to provide safe access to any area that constitutes a risk. The rule used to be 2 metres, that no longer applies. If you are working at height, there is a risk.
Technically, the onus could fall on you if there was an accident if you have no builder overseeing the project, and employing the roofer.
Technically, the onus could fall on you if there was an accident if you have no builder overseeing the project, and employing the roofer.
Thanks, that's useful.
The scaffolding could presumably only go up to the soffit (perhaps marginally over two metres). I can see the bill for scaffolding being more than the labour.
I'll try and sound him out, he's been recommended (even by competitors) so I don't want to piss him off.
The scaffolding could presumably only go up to the soffit (perhaps marginally over two metres). I can see the bill for scaffolding being more than the labour.
I'll try and sound him out, he's been recommended (even by competitors) so I don't want to piss him off.
OneManBanned said:
Hi guys,
I don't want the site to be unsafe, but equally, the £1500 outlay (approximately)
£1500 for scaffold!? how big is it? We usually get full width of a two storey house to gutter for around £300 - £350. A single lift to approx 3m should be no more than a couple of hundred pounds.I don't want the site to be unsafe, but equally, the £1500 outlay (approximately)
4Q said:
£1500 for scaffold!? how big is it? We usually get full width of a two storey house to gutter for around £300 - £350. A single lift to approx 3m should be no more than a couple of hundred pounds.
Sounds very cheap?We were quoted 600 just for the day to line the chimney
Went with an old boy who said he'd do the job with a ladder...
4Q said:
£1500 for scaffold!? how big is it? We usually get full width of a two storey house to gutter for around £300 - £350. A single lift to approx 3m should be no more than a couple of hundred pounds.
About 25ft in length. 1.5 storeys (attic trusses above garage). The gable end is a fair height. I guess you'd just need one run at the front and the back, rather than a wrap around.Had a bit of a debate with the company that installed our solar panels on this subject. Their quote clearly stated scaffolding would be used.
On the day in question a single installer turned up with a ladder. My wife asked about safety etc and was told it was fine, and his mate would be along soon. Shortly afterwards there was an almighty crash and my wife goes outside to find the installer sitting on the roof and his ladder on the ground! She didn't reunite one with the other until she had confirmation he wasn't going up the ladder again until his mate arrived. His mate took several hours to arrive, so presumably wasn't originally coming at all.
On the day in question a single installer turned up with a ladder. My wife asked about safety etc and was told it was fine, and his mate would be along soon. Shortly afterwards there was an almighty crash and my wife goes outside to find the installer sitting on the roof and his ladder on the ground! She didn't reunite one with the other until she had confirmation he wasn't going up the ladder again until his mate arrived. His mate took several hours to arrive, so presumably wasn't originally coming at all.
4Q said:
Is this in the East Midlands or London? I've just spoken to my scaffolder based near Derby and he said £450 for two 5m runs - front and back, or £500 for all three sides. PM me if you want his number.
Thanks. There are two towers on site (well one, but one with a neighbour a few doors away) The roofer is coming to install some downpipes and hoppers. I'll clarify then. The £1500 quote is what the builders submitted. Frankly we didn't have confidene in their ability to make a good enough job of the tiling. He wanted to use concrete interlockers, rather than the rosemary plain that had been specified.We're in the Fens (so East Anglia practically) might be a bit too far for your mate to go. Thank you though. I appreciate it.
Couldn't reply earlier as the site administrators think it's sensible to sanction all new contributors when one or two play up!
Hi Guys
New to the site but very old to Scaffolding! Found this post and thought I would chuck my twopenneth in....
Clearly I'm bias as I work in the Industry but for piece of mind and actual productivity I would certainly go with the Scaffold for your project.
A scaffold for roofing would need to be approx. 300mm below eaves, around 450mm/500mm if doing fascias and soffits as well.
You mention front, rear and gable elevations, as a minimum you want eaves platforms and double railed edge protection to the verge, some of our customers prefer platforms at the verge also too to allow easier pointing if going in with a mortar finish.
The figure you have had from you're builder may have been with his mark up, get a couple of local scaffolding business's to give you some quotes, you may be surprised.
If you need any additional info just drop me a line, I will be more than happy to assist.
Edit: Just checked out your measurements and I would be looking at around £850.00 plus VAT - Sheffield Rates
Cheers
Paul
New to the site but very old to Scaffolding! Found this post and thought I would chuck my twopenneth in....
Clearly I'm bias as I work in the Industry but for piece of mind and actual productivity I would certainly go with the Scaffold for your project.
A scaffold for roofing would need to be approx. 300mm below eaves, around 450mm/500mm if doing fascias and soffits as well.
You mention front, rear and gable elevations, as a minimum you want eaves platforms and double railed edge protection to the verge, some of our customers prefer platforms at the verge also too to allow easier pointing if going in with a mortar finish.
The figure you have had from you're builder may have been with his mark up, get a couple of local scaffolding business's to give you some quotes, you may be surprised.
If you need any additional info just drop me a line, I will be more than happy to assist.
Edit: Just checked out your measurements and I would be looking at around £850.00 plus VAT - Sheffield Rates
Cheers
Paul
Edited by PW555 on Wednesday 3rd May 16:12
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