Totting up ban coming !!
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Having had a shocking few months for being caught speeding I have a court appointment for a ban.....all my convictions are SP30's and all will be 6 months old or less. Im just wondering if anyone has been through this process and what length ban they got. Online suggest 6 months but can be reduced in certain circumstances. I have a parent with Alzeimers so my licence is quite important in that respect. Yes I know should be more careful, but ive cocked up looking at a ban so any advice?
It would be good if this thread could remain civil with good advice, experience and an outcome.
Good luck op, I think you need to go for some angle of hardship for others if you get a long ban. I've also seen a thread somewhere and news articles with thousands of people driving around with points totals far in excess of 12.
Good luck op, I think you need to go for some angle of hardship for others if you get a long ban. I've also seen a thread somewhere and news articles with thousands of people driving around with points totals far in excess of 12.
Mate's brother got 6 months but he did tell the Madge that the police should be after criminals not honest motorists doing 78 on a motorway while out earning a living. That went down well. Grovel, sick parent, hardship, sole driver, offer to pay a heavier fine, sorry milud, you might get less.
hornetrider said:
It would be good if this thread could remain civil with good advice, experience and an outcome.
Good luck op, I think you need to go for some angle of hardship for others if you get a long ban. I've also seen a thread somewhere and news articles with thousands of people driving around with points totals far in excess of 12.
Absolutely this! Lets try and keep the preaching & self riotous comments to a minimum?Good luck op, I think you need to go for some angle of hardship for others if you get a long ban. I've also seen a thread somewhere and news articles with thousands of people driving around with points totals far in excess of 12.
OP - speak to a lawyer and 'put your money where your mouth is' when it comes to accepting a ban vs reducing it for monies spent.
AGTlaw etc
Andehh said:
hornetrider said:
It would be good if this thread could remain civil with good advice, experience and an outcome.
Good luck op, I think you need to go for some angle of hardship for others if you get a long ban. I've also seen a thread somewhere and news articles with thousands of people driving around with points totals far in excess of 12.
Absolutely this! Lets try and keep the preaching & self riotous comments to a minimum?Good luck op, I think you need to go for some angle of hardship for others if you get a long ban. I've also seen a thread somewhere and news articles with thousands of people driving around with points totals far in excess of 12.
OP - speak to a lawyer and 'put your money where your mouth is' when it comes to accepting a ban vs reducing it for monies spent.
AGTlaw etc
Anyhow. I would like to ask the OP a question and I'm genuinely intrigued about the answer. As someone who was obviously one offence away from a potential totting up ban, why didn't you drive like an absolute saint and ensure you didn't speed anymore?
Why is it that when these bans appear, everyone starts trotting out the excuses about certain hardship? If people rely on their licence so much, why risk losing it? It's a system that gives you multiple strikes before you are properly penalised. Yet some people choose to keep ignoring things.
Speeding penalties are a funny old thing. Would others say things like keep the preaching to a minimum if a thief was caught for the fourth time?
The above are genuine questions because personally, I simply cannot understand why people would risk something that means so much to them.
The only advice I can give to the OP is that written above. Get a good lawyer, wear a suit to court and try to convince them that you are genuinely full of remorse.
funkyrobot said:
Personally, I think that anyone should be available to comment, even those that have a view that others may find 'self righteous' or different. If you start trying to stop people with differing views from contributing, what is the point in having a thread on here?
Anyhow. I would like to ask the OP a question and I'm genuinely intrigued about the answer. As someone who was obviously one offence away from a potential totting up ban, why didn't you drive like an absolute saint and ensure you didn't speed anymore?
Why is it that when these bans appear, everyone starts trotting out the excuses about certain hardship? If people rely on their licence so much, why risk losing it? It's a system that gives you multiple strikes before you are properly penalised. Yet some people choose to keep ignoring things.
Speeding penalties are a funny old thing. Would others say things like keep the preaching to a minimum if a thief was caught for the fourth time?
The above are genuine questions because personally, I simply cannot understand why people would risk something that means so much to them.
The only advice I can give to the OP is that written above. Get a good lawyer, wear a suit to court and try to convince them that you are genuinely full of remorse.
Interesting philosophical question. Why not start another thread, or debate it with the already stressed OP on here before deciding whether or not to offer him the use of your time machine?Anyhow. I would like to ask the OP a question and I'm genuinely intrigued about the answer. As someone who was obviously one offence away from a potential totting up ban, why didn't you drive like an absolute saint and ensure you didn't speed anymore?
Why is it that when these bans appear, everyone starts trotting out the excuses about certain hardship? If people rely on their licence so much, why risk losing it? It's a system that gives you multiple strikes before you are properly penalised. Yet some people choose to keep ignoring things.
Speeding penalties are a funny old thing. Would others say things like keep the preaching to a minimum if a thief was caught for the fourth time?
The above are genuine questions because personally, I simply cannot understand why people would risk something that means so much to them.
The only advice I can give to the OP is that written above. Get a good lawyer, wear a suit to court and try to convince them that you are genuinely full of remorse.
yajeed said:
Interesting philosophical question. Why not start another thread, or debate it with the already stressed OP on here before deciding whether or not to offer him the use of your time machine?
I wanted to find out from someone who is in this predicament. Why not ask the OP? Keeps the 'self righteousness' in one place then. 
hornetrider said:
funkyrobot said:
Here we go. 
One simply cannot question the thought process of someone repeatedly being caught speeding on here.
This is the law forum and the fellow is seeking legal advice and experience. Not a debate. One simply cannot question the thought process of someone repeatedly being caught speeding on here.
There are a few credible people on here. However, there are also a hell of a lot of keyboard/armchair lawyers who give terrible advice.
funkyrobot said:
yajeed said:
Interesting philosophical question. Why not start another thread, or debate it with the already stressed OP on here before deciding whether or not to offer him the use of your time machine?
I wanted to find out from someone who is in this predicament. Why not ask the OP? Keeps the 'self righteousness' in one place then. funkyrobot said:
I wanted to find out from someone who is in this predicament. Why not ask the OP? Keeps the 'self righteousness' in one place then.
OK, then go and start another thread. The OP will know where to find you. But, to answer your question - his immediate concern is not debating why he did what he did, it's trying to ensure he can continue to travel to see his ill parent.
In 'real life', you wouldn't answer the question the way you did should someone seek your advice, or at least not as an opening gambit. You'd (hopefully) just try to help, then bring up the question in a different conversation at a better time if you still felt it appropriate.
The forum equivalent would be another thread.
LocoCoco said:
funkyrobot said:
yajeed said:
Interesting philosophical question. Why not start another thread, or debate it with the already stressed OP on here before deciding whether or not to offer him the use of your time machine?
I wanted to find out from someone who is in this predicament. Why not ask the OP? Keeps the 'self righteousness' in one place then. funkyrobot said:
Here we go.
One simply cannot question the thought process of someone repeatedly being caught speeding on here.
I think when the same people show up, thread after thread, with the same unhelpful attitude to an op who needs help, not sanctimony, it's not surprising that people take exception.One simply cannot question the thought process of someone repeatedly being caught speeding on here.
I'm genuinely interested in the mentality of these people, and their reasons for joining the forum. I also wish they hadn't bothered. It detracts from the reason it exists.
Best of luck, op, I think the advice to speak to agtlaw on here is possibly the best you'll get.
Phil Dicky said:
I have a parent with Alzeimers so my licence is quite important in that respect.
You're going to need to demonstrate how that parent is dependent upon your having a licence, and would be unreasonably penalised by your being banned. How nobody else can drive them about - your missus, or other family members - and quite possibly how a taxi isn't a viable alternative.If you're successful, you'll be looking at a much bigger fine instead.
funkyrobot said:
Personally, I think that anyone should be available to comment, even those that have a view that others may find 'self righteous' or different. If you start trying to stop people with differing views from contributing, what is the point in having a thread on here?
Anyhow. I would like to ask the OP a question and I'm genuinely intrigued about the answer. As someone who was obviously one offence away from a potential totting up ban, why didn't you drive like an absolute saint and ensure you didn't speed anymore?
Why is it that when these bans appear, everyone starts trotting out the excuses about certain hardship? If people rely on their licence so much, why risk losing it? It's a system that gives you multiple strikes before you are properly penalised. Yet some people choose to keep ignoring things.
Speeding penalties are a funny old thing. Would others say things like keep the preaching to a minimum if a thief was caught for the fourth time?
The above are genuine questions because personally, I simply cannot understand why people would risk something that means so much to them.
The only advice I can give to the OP is that written above. Get a good lawyer, wear a suit to court and try to convince them that you are genuinely full of remorse.
How fAnyhow. I would like to ask the OP a question and I'm genuinely intrigued about the answer. As someone who was obviously one offence away from a potential totting up ban, why didn't you drive like an absolute saint and ensure you didn't speed anymore?
Why is it that when these bans appear, everyone starts trotting out the excuses about certain hardship? If people rely on their licence so much, why risk losing it? It's a system that gives you multiple strikes before you are properly penalised. Yet some people choose to keep ignoring things.
Speeding penalties are a funny old thing. Would others say things like keep the preaching to a minimum if a thief was caught for the fourth time?
The above are genuine questions because personally, I simply cannot understand why people would risk something that means so much to them.
The only advice I can give to the OP is that written above. Get a good lawyer, wear a suit to court and try to convince them that you are genuinely full of remorse.
king dull.768 said:
funkyrobot said:
Personally, I think that anyone should be available to comment, even those that have a view that others may find 'self righteous' or different. If you start trying to stop people with differing views from contributing, what is the point in having a thread on here?
Anyhow. I would like to ask the OP a question and I'm genuinely intrigued about the answer. As someone who was obviously one offence away from a potential totting up ban, why didn't you drive like an absolute saint and ensure you didn't speed anymore?
Why is it that when these bans appear, everyone starts trotting out the excuses about certain hardship? If people rely on their licence so much, why risk losing it? It's a system that gives you multiple strikes before you are properly penalised. Yet some people choose to keep ignoring things.
Speeding penalties are a funny old thing. Would others say things like keep the preaching to a minimum if a thief was caught for the fourth time?
The above are genuine questions because personally, I simply cannot understand why people would risk something that means so much to them.
The only advice I can give to the OP is that written above. Get a good lawyer, wear a suit to court and try to convince them that you are genuinely full of remorse.
How fAnyhow. I would like to ask the OP a question and I'm genuinely intrigued about the answer. As someone who was obviously one offence away from a potential totting up ban, why didn't you drive like an absolute saint and ensure you didn't speed anymore?
Why is it that when these bans appear, everyone starts trotting out the excuses about certain hardship? If people rely on their licence so much, why risk losing it? It's a system that gives you multiple strikes before you are properly penalised. Yet some people choose to keep ignoring things.
Speeding penalties are a funny old thing. Would others say things like keep the preaching to a minimum if a thief was caught for the fourth time?
The above are genuine questions because personally, I simply cannot understand why people would risk something that means so much to them.
The only advice I can give to the OP is that written above. Get a good lawyer, wear a suit to court and try to convince them that you are genuinely full of remorse.
king dull.battered said:
Mate's brother got 6 months but he did tell the Madge that the police should be after criminals not honest motorists doing 78 on a motorway while out earning a living. That went down well. Grovel, sick parent, hardship, sole driver, offer to pay a heavier fine, sorry milud, you might get less.
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