What rules about disabled spaces at work
Discussion
Can anyone point me in the direction of any rules which exist relating to the provision of disabled parking spaces at work.
So far as I can find so far there seems to be no legislation relating to the provision of disabled spaces, but everything I can find seems to be years old. Is this still the case?
We share a building with another company who last year removed all their disabled spaces and made them into executive parking bays with little name plaques.
But as a training company they regularly get disabled visitors who then use our disabled spaces.
I have no gripe with the poor sod who now has to traipse 30m further from our disabled parking bays, they are more than welcome to park where they please in my opinion. My issue is with the selfish execs who want to park right outside the door and it gets my goat every time I see the disabled person here.
So far as I can find so far there seems to be no legislation relating to the provision of disabled spaces, but everything I can find seems to be years old. Is this still the case?
We share a building with another company who last year removed all their disabled spaces and made them into executive parking bays with little name plaques.
But as a training company they regularly get disabled visitors who then use our disabled spaces.
I have no gripe with the poor sod who now has to traipse 30m further from our disabled parking bays, they are more than welcome to park where they please in my opinion. My issue is with the selfish execs who want to park right outside the door and it gets my goat every time I see the disabled person here.
My thread has arrived.
http://www.eversheds-sutherland.com/global/en/what...
Very brief but you still can get the gist. In your case, they are not employees but visitors to the site but it's still discrimination.
http://www.xperthr.co.uk/law-reports/disability-di...
http://www.eversheds-sutherland.com/global/en/what...
Very brief but you still can get the gist. In your case, they are not employees but visitors to the site but it's still discrimination.
http://www.xperthr.co.uk/law-reports/disability-di...
Edited by mp3manager on Tuesday 23 May 10:39
In a nut-shell, BS8300 gives guidance on how many spaces should be provided. The Equalities Act sets the principles for making reasonable provisions.
Action would need to be brought by any visitor who felt discriminated against by the service provider as it's anti-discrimination legislation, it's not something you could do personally.
It would be interesting to see what would happen if a disabled visitor parked in one of the named exec parking spaces though?
Action would need to be brought by any visitor who felt discriminated against by the service provider as it's anti-discrimination legislation, it's not something you could do personally.
It would be interesting to see what would happen if a disabled visitor parked in one of the named exec parking spaces though?
The Surveyor said:
It would be interesting to see what would happen if a disabled visitor parked in one of the named exec parking spaces though?
I did that when the only disabled parking space was abused by an able-bodied person.It created an almighty row between the company who owned the site and my employer, who rented office space.
I didn't pick one of the managers spaces but instead, one of the directors spaces for maximum effect. I heard he was almost red with rage.
ah right, thanks for the information both.
It seems I'll sadly have to just inform the visitors they are parked in our parking spaces and they are welcome to, and have a quiet word with them about perhaps reporting the training company.
I have to say I'm very surprised and quite saddened they can do this. I had previously read the Eversheds information but hoped it might be out of date by now.
It seems I'll sadly have to just inform the visitors they are parked in our parking spaces and they are welcome to, and have a quiet word with them about perhaps reporting the training company.
I have to say I'm very surprised and quite saddened they can do this. I had previously read the Eversheds information but hoped it might be out of date by now.
Get on to the planning dept at the council as there may be something in the planning that says they had to provide these spaces. As they were there before it puts them in a bad light removing disabled facilities.
A local wine bar to me has normal toilets up stairs and a downstairs disable toilet room. They removed the disable toilet walls and all so that they could cram in extra seating as this makes them more money and a disable toilet doesn't.
They were reported to the council and planning officials visited with an equalities expert and as a result the wine bar had to remove the seating and rebuild the disabled toilet.
A local wine bar to me has normal toilets up stairs and a downstairs disable toilet room. They removed the disable toilet walls and all so that they could cram in extra seating as this makes them more money and a disable toilet doesn't.
They were reported to the council and planning officials visited with an equalities expert and as a result the wine bar had to remove the seating and rebuild the disabled toilet.
Barreti said:
ah right, thanks for the information both.
It seems I'll sadly have to just inform the visitors they are parked in our parking spaces and they are welcome to, and have a quiet word with them about perhaps reporting the training company.
I have to say I'm very surprised and quite saddened they can do this. I had previously read the Eversheds information but hoped it might be out of date by now.
Sorry if they are your spaces for your visitors I'd just kick them out and suggest they park in the wider exec spaces..It seems I'll sadly have to just inform the visitors they are parked in our parking spaces and they are welcome to, and have a quiet word with them about perhaps reporting the training company.
I have to say I'm very surprised and quite saddened they can do this. I had previously read the Eversheds information but hoped it might be out of date by now.
You don't have to provide your spaces for use by anothers visitor...
Fish said:
Sorry if they are your spaces for your visitors I'd just kick them out and suggest they park in the wider exec spaces..
You don't have to provide your spaces for use by anothers visitor...
I would have had a quiet word and pointed them over the right side of the car park had there been any exec spaces empty but the disabled person arrived around 10am so they were full.You don't have to provide your spaces for use by anothers visitor...
Barreti said:
Fish said:
Sorry if they are your spaces for your visitors I'd just kick them out and suggest they park in the wider exec spaces..
You don't have to provide your spaces for use by anothers visitor...
I would have had a quiet word and pointed them over the right side of the car park had there been any exec spaces empty but the disabled person arrived around 10am so they were full.You don't have to provide your spaces for use by anothers visitor...
You could still kick them out and tell them the company they are visiting got rid of theirs to make way for exec spaces, hopefully they will stir up some when they visit. Tell the driver you are expecting a disabled client of your own.
I assume as this is private land you can pick and choose who parks in your spaces disabled or not.
I regularly fall out with my fellow Directors because I am very much anti named spaces for senior staff, I think its pretty pathetic.
To replace disabled spaces with them is plain wrong if there is any chance of disabled visitors, and a business has to make reasonable allowances for disabled people, to my mind taking away disabled spaces is contrary to that notion embodied in the Equality Act
To replace disabled spaces with them is plain wrong if there is any chance of disabled visitors, and a business has to make reasonable allowances for disabled people, to my mind taking away disabled spaces is contrary to that notion embodied in the Equality Act
mp3manager said:
My thread has arrived.
http://www.eversheds-sutherland.com/global/en/what...
Very brief but you still can get the gist. In your case, they are not employees but visitors to the site but it's still discrimination.
http://www.xperthr.co.uk/law-reports/disability-di...
Am I missing something as the Eversheds article says they don't have to do anything for visitors?http://www.eversheds-sutherland.com/global/en/what...
Very brief but you still can get the gist. In your case, they are not employees but visitors to the site but it's still discrimination.
http://www.xperthr.co.uk/law-reports/disability-di...
Edited by mp3manager on Tuesday 23 May 10:39
Whilst turning away the other companies regular disabled visitors would be akin to death by social media, I have to ask?
OP. Do you actually have any disabled employees, or regular visitors of your own?
(The people you are effectively paying for).
If the former - then take away the disabled identifier and stick a name on the wall to make it the disabled staff members 'special' space.
If the latter, your response could be varied, including:
Officially booking the visitor into a 'clearly marked visitor (to your company) space, and keeping that space clear on the agreed day of their visit.
Regarding, the other company.. You could inform them that you were removing the spaces as unlike them, you are not obliged to have any.
OP. Do you actually have any disabled employees, or regular visitors of your own?
(The people you are effectively paying for).
If the former - then take away the disabled identifier and stick a name on the wall to make it the disabled staff members 'special' space.
If the latter, your response could be varied, including:
Officially booking the visitor into a 'clearly marked visitor (to your company) space, and keeping that space clear on the agreed day of their visit.
Regarding, the other company.. You could inform them that you were removing the spaces as unlike them, you are not obliged to have any.
PAULJ5555 said:
Get on to the planning dept at the council as there may be something in the planning that says they had to provide these spaces.
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My thoughts too..
Quite often there is a planning condition that demands that the approved layout is to be retained and shall not be altered without the prior approval of the local authority.
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