New laws surrounding speeding in France?
Discussion
As with many I'm off to Le Mans this week. I'm not one for doing silly speeds but do often drift higher than the 130kph limit.
As of May new laws mean that UK licenced cars / drivers can be fined. But how? I'll get a letter through the post, I'll bin it, then what? How will it be followed up?
As of May new laws mean that UK licenced cars / drivers can be fined. But how? I'll get a letter through the post, I'll bin it, then what? How will it be followed up?
Joe5y said:
As with many I'm off to Le Mans this week. I'm not one for doing silly speeds but do often drift higher than the 130kph limit.
As of May new laws mean that UK licenced cars / drivers can be fined. But how? I'll get a letter through the post, I'll bin it, then what? How will it be followed up?
Don't discount the usual fining on the spot and the fines can be high.As of May new laws mean that UK licenced cars / drivers can be fined. But how? I'll get a letter through the post, I'll bin it, then what? How will it be followed up?
Can't help with camera penalties, but also don't discount the issue being flagged up when the vehicle next returns to the continent.
Riley Blue said:
So how does that help with info on the new 2017 laws?heebeegeetee said:
Don't discount the usual fining on the spot and the fines can be high.
Can't help with camera penalties, but also don't discount the issue being flagged up when the vehicle next returns to the continent.
Always thought that re the car returning but how does that work once the car has been sold or has a plate change? Can't help with camera penalties, but also don't discount the issue being flagged up when the vehicle next returns to the continent.
Joe5y said:
As with many I'm off to Le Mans this week. I'm not one for doing silly speeds but do often drift higher than the 130kph limit.
As of May new laws mean that UK licenced cars / drivers can be fined. But how? I'll get a letter through the post, I'll bin it, then what? How will it be followed up?
IANAL and IMO and all that, but my understanding is this. They can sell the "debt" to debt collection agencies. However these agencies have no real power to make you pay - they will rely on threatening letters,intimidation (and outright lies regarding their powers) to try and get you to pay but at the end of the day they are powerless.As of May new laws mean that UK licenced cars / drivers can be fined. But how? I'll get a letter through the post, I'll bin it, then what? How will it be followed up?
As for the thought of your car being stopped on subsequent re-entries to the country I don't believe there is any country where this is legal (it certainly isn't part of EU regulations) and there is nowhere they have joined up systems or processes to make this happen. I think worst case is the lots of threatening letters/debt collectors as above.
Order66 said:
Joe5y said:
As with many I'm off to Le Mans this week. I'm not one for doing silly speeds but do often drift higher than the 130kph limit.
As of May new laws mean that UK licenced cars / drivers can be fined. But how? I'll get a letter through the post, I'll bin it, then what? How will it be followed up?
IANAL and IMO and all that, but my understanding is this. They can sell the "debt" to debt collection agencies. However these agencies have no real power to make you pay - they will rely on threatening letters,intimidation (and outright lies regarding their powers) to try and get you to pay but at the end of the day they are powerless.As of May new laws mean that UK licenced cars / drivers can be fined. But how? I'll get a letter through the post, I'll bin it, then what? How will it be followed up?
As for the thought of your car being stopped on subsequent re-entries to the country I don't believe there is any country where this is legal (it certainly isn't part of EU regulations) and there is nowhere they have joined up systems or processes to make this happen. I think worst case is the lots of threatening letters/debt collectors as above.
agtlaw said:
Completely wrong. It's enforced by your local Magistrates' Court.
Fair enough, was that part of the cross-border enforcement directive that it could be enforced in this way? I understood it was an exchange of information and missed where a foreign fine is enforceable through UK courts.agtlaw said:
Order66 said:
Joe5y said:
As with many I'm off to Le Mans this week. I'm not one for doing silly speeds but do often drift higher than the 130kph limit.
As of May new laws mean that UK licenced cars / drivers can be fined. But how? I'll get a letter through the post, I'll bin it, then what? How will it be followed up?
IANAL and IMO and all that, but my understanding is this. They can sell the "debt" to debt collection agencies. However these agencies have no real power to make you pay - they will rely on threatening letters,intimidation (and outright lies regarding their powers) to try and get you to pay but at the end of the day they are powerless.As of May new laws mean that UK licenced cars / drivers can be fined. But how? I'll get a letter through the post, I'll bin it, then what? How will it be followed up?
As for the thought of your car being stopped on subsequent re-entries to the country I don't believe there is any country where this is legal (it certainly isn't part of EU regulations) and there is nowhere they have joined up systems or processes to make this happen. I think worst case is the lots of threatening letters/debt collectors as above.
Joe5y said:
Riley Blue said:
So how does that help with info on the new 2017 laws?http://etsc.eu/faq-eu-cross-border-enforcement-dir...
Riley Blue said:
Joe5y said:
Riley Blue said:
So how does that help with info on the new 2017 laws?http://etsc.eu/faq-eu-cross-border-enforcement-dir...
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Joe5y said:
As with many I'm off to Le Mans this week. I'm not one for doing silly speeds but do often drift higher than the 130kph limit.
As of May new laws mean that UK licenced cars / drivers can be fined. But how? I'll get a letter through the post, I'll bin it, then what? How will it be followed up?
How do you manage, driving in the UK?As of May new laws mean that UK licenced cars / drivers can be fined. But how? I'll get a letter through the post, I'll bin it, then what? How will it be followed up?
Alucidnation said:
Joe5y said:
As with many I'm off to Le Mans this week. I'm not one for doing silly speeds but do often drift higher than the 130kph limit.
As of May new laws mean that UK licenced cars / drivers can be fined. But how? I'll get a letter through the post, I'll bin it, then what? How will it be followed up?
How do you manage, driving in the UK?As of May new laws mean that UK licenced cars / drivers can be fined. But how? I'll get a letter through the post, I'll bin it, then what? How will it be followed up?
Alucidnation said:
Joe5y said:
As with many I'm off to Le Mans this week. I'm not one for doing silly speeds but do often drift higher than the 130kph limit.
As of May new laws mean that UK licenced cars / drivers can be fined. But how? I'll get a letter through the post, I'll bin it, then what? How will it be followed up?
How do you manage, driving in the UK?As of May new laws mean that UK licenced cars / drivers can be fined. But how? I'll get a letter through the post, I'll bin it, then what? How will it be followed up?
I'm sure I'm not the only one that when in europe I don't worry if a camera flashes. With the new laws I'm curious as to how they're enforced.
Riley Blue said:
Joe5y said:
Riley Blue said:
So how does that help with info on the new 2017 laws?http://etsc.eu/faq-eu-cross-border-enforcement-dir...
Your initial post wasn't clear. Thank you for the clarification, I will read the link.
agtlaw said:
Completely wrong. It's enforced by your local Magistrates' Court.
Local mags, using UK law, will enforce an automated speeding fine for, say Italy that you may deny? I think you may be being rather brief here, brief! I'd appreciate another morsel or two...if you would be kind enough...?You may mean this one Mr Briefly? 
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Other info (care of AGT) http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2008/4/part/6/...
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...Other info (care of AGT) http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2008/4/part/6/...
Edited by Ken Figenus on Saturday 10th June 20:30
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