Arrested, de-arrested before processing and then questioned
Discussion
Carinaman.
Yes. It was his last night on shift before retiring. He apologised to me and said ' the trouble is nowadays ... ' and gesticulated upstairs whilst shaking his head. I appreciate that the police have a job to do and domestic violence is a sensitive case but..... Like I said earlier, I never even raised my voice to her. Also as has been mentioned a warning would have been more than appropriate.
Yes. It was his last night on shift before retiring. He apologised to me and said ' the trouble is nowadays ... ' and gesticulated upstairs whilst shaking his head. I appreciate that the police have a job to do and domestic violence is a sensitive case but..... Like I said earlier, I never even raised my voice to her. Also as has been mentioned a warning would have been more than appropriate.
He also said that ' if I was such a perceived threat to her and her sons safety why did it take them 10 days to arrest me ' and as I wasn't a perceived threat was it really necessary for two cars with blue lights flashing to turn up at 1am down a private road to arrest me and then make a song and dance wandering in and out of my house with my guns with all the neighbors watching. I was mortified as to what they must have been thinking. Thankfully after explaining they were all very sympathetic as they know me and my character well.
Also just to add. I have to travel 35 miles to the family court. Whereas she gets to go to the local court to give her evidence by video link ??
At the first hearing, after sitting around all day it became apparent that there wasn't going to be enough time for the hearing and it was going to be adjourned. The prosecution approached my solicitor with the option of me signing a ' no contact order ? ' and that would be it. I agreed as my solicitor said that even if I was acquitted that this would be likely to happen anyway. I said that there would be no way that she would agree to it due to her spiteful nature, but he said ' you might be surprised as it will mean she won't have to reappear ' sure enough 10 mins later it came back that she wasn't prepared to accept that and she wanted it adjourned and to go to trial.
At the first hearing, after sitting around all day it became apparent that there wasn't going to be enough time for the hearing and it was going to be adjourned. The prosecution approached my solicitor with the option of me signing a ' no contact order ? ' and that would be it. I agreed as my solicitor said that even if I was acquitted that this would be likely to happen anyway. I said that there would be no way that she would agree to it due to her spiteful nature, but he said ' you might be surprised as it will mean she won't have to reappear ' sure enough 10 mins later it came back that she wasn't prepared to accept that and she wanted it adjourned and to go to trial.
Rick101. Yep, I know. My friends have paid me out on that too. Like I said in one of my messages to her. " I dodged a bullet there " I think she has her teeth into a new ' victim ' now. Not the ex, he bailed on her and went back to his wife and kids. The new guy moved in 2 weeks after the ex moved out. Milk stays on the shelf longer than her !!
Like all mistakes, I have certainly learned a lesson !!!
Like all mistakes, I have certainly learned a lesson !!!
robox72 said:
Carinaman.
Yes. It was his last night on shift before retiring. He apologised to me and said ' the trouble is nowadays ... ' and gesticulated upstairs whilst shaking his head. I appreciate that the police have a job to do and domestic violence is a sensitive case but..... Like I said earlier, I never even raised my voice to her. Also as has been mentioned a warning would have been more than appropriate.
On the other hand, if they had arrested you, you would probably have taken the option of a duty solicitor. Based on your version of the events, there's a good chance it would have been nipped in the bud without charges being raised. As you're probably aware by now, your ex must have fabricated a string of accusations to embellish her side of the story. She must have said more than "my ex has texted me few times since we split". Yes. It was his last night on shift before retiring. He apologised to me and said ' the trouble is nowadays ... ' and gesticulated upstairs whilst shaking his head. I appreciate that the police have a job to do and domestic violence is a sensitive case but..... Like I said earlier, I never even raised my voice to her. Also as has been mentioned a warning would have been more than appropriate.
not sure if you can object and retract the accepting of the caution if you believe you were not fully aware of the procedures and have changed your mind now being more informed of the situation of what a caution is. perhaps and complaint to be put in against the police for the way it was handled?
I think you can formally retract your acceptance of a caution but talk to a crim solicitor.
By accepting the caution this hasn't stopped the ex or the cps pushing forward on you now has it? so unless I'm missing something there was no point accepting the caution I would suggest.
£6k engagement ring - blimey.
Sorry to hear you are in this situation. How long were you together? Thankfully you had no children !!
I think you can formally retract your acceptance of a caution but talk to a crim solicitor.
By accepting the caution this hasn't stopped the ex or the cps pushing forward on you now has it? so unless I'm missing something there was no point accepting the caution I would suggest.
£6k engagement ring - blimey.
Sorry to hear you are in this situation. How long were you together? Thankfully you had no children !!
MitchT said:
As soon as a relationship ends, run for the hills. Keeping in touch with your ex (unless you have kids together and have no choice) is like going for a s
t and not flushing the toilet.
+1t and not flushing the toilet.You will never get answers from the ex so dont bother. If you want your money back then head to a solicitor and do it formerly that way with proof of what you have given.
I am guessing that if your texts were as innocent as you say then she is looking for a way to ensure she doesn't have to pay back anything you have given her.
Cold said:
Both the police and the CPS need a damn good slap for entertaining this nonsense from her. Typical woman is a victim mentality. How far would this have gone if the gender roles were reversed?
The CPS will never decide to take someone to court who has no previous, has only sent 6 non-threatening/non harassing messages and who admits sending them in an interview. It's so non urgent that 2 police cars turn up at 1am, with their lights flashing to arrest him??!!
I know critical thinking is in short supply around here and that women are always lying but do you think that there is the possibility that there is a little more to this?
TheBear said:
The CPS will never decide to take someone to court who has no previous, has only sent 6 non-threatening/non harassing messages and who admits sending them in an interview.
It's so non urgent that 2 police cars turn up at 1am, with their lights flashing to arrest him??!!
I know critical thinking is in short supply around here and that women are always lying but do you think that there is the possibility that there is a little more to this?
She called the police saying he's knocked her about and that he has shotguns?It's so non urgent that 2 police cars turn up at 1am, with their lights flashing to arrest him??!!
I know critical thinking is in short supply around here and that women are always lying but do you think that there is the possibility that there is a little more to this?
Vindictive woman being vindictive.......
Edited by crispian22 on Wednesday 28th June 10:35
justinio said:
In fact, they have probably seen the text about "dodging a bullet" and the fact he has shotguns, and assumed thats some kind of thinly veiled threat. Thats the only reason I can think of why they would seize them, and why the CPS have got a hard on over such a trivial matter.
or the OP isn't be quite so truthful about the texts he sent 
To make that judgement you need to see his texts and the responses in full. http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/stalking_and_ha...
TheBear said:
Cold said:
Both the police and the CPS need a damn good slap for entertaining this nonsense from her. Typical woman is a victim mentality. How far would this have gone if the gender roles were reversed?
The CPS will never decide to take someone to court who has no previous, has only sent 6 non-threatening/non harassing messages and who admits sending them in an interview. It's so non urgent that 2 police cars turn up at 1am, with their lights flashing to arrest him??!!
I know critical thinking is in short supply around here and that women are always lying but do you think that there is the possibility that there is a little more to this?
First, stop posting about it on PH - for every well-intentioned or helpful reply you'll receive ten from bell ends. Secondly, find a proper solicitor who deals with criminal law: if they can also handle your conveyancing then they cant hack this.
Accusations of this sort tend to receive a disproportionate response; get a proper solicitor and take it from there. My slightly more controversial advice will be that you should not consider summary trial, because you will be found guilty. Go straight to crown court where you will receive a proper hearing, if it even goes ahead.
Accusations of this sort tend to receive a disproportionate response; get a proper solicitor and take it from there. My slightly more controversial advice will be that you should not consider summary trial, because you will be found guilty. Go straight to crown court where you will receive a proper hearing, if it even goes ahead.
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