Purchased Car with No logbook. What's the current rules?

Purchased Car with No logbook. What's the current rules?

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fooby

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326 posts

100 months

Tuesday 27th June 2017
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Today I purchased a Lexus IS200 in lovely condition, one owner from new and a brilliant service history. Fully HPI clear of course or I wouldn't have considered it.

The old owner however has lost the logbook. I understand the easiest way to sort this is for her to apply for a new logbook, or I can send off a V62 which will take longer, but would also be much more reliable.

My question is what are the current rules regarding taxing a vehicle for a new owner when no logbook is present? Have the rules about getting temporary tax from the post office at the same time as sending off the V62 changed? The post office website says I could, but the DVLA website is delightfully vague.

Edited by fooby on Tuesday 27th June 21:20

john2443

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fooby

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326 posts

100 months

Tuesday 27th June 2017
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john2443 said:
Cheers, this does conflict with the information on the post office site, but unfortunately the DVLA site is probably more accurate.

As the previous owner has the car taxed until April 2018, could she actually cancel the tax before ordering a new logbook? Obviously if I can't get temporary tax and she cancels the tax, I would have to store the car on private property until the new logbook came to me. It's fully insured in my name. I wouldn't be driving it but I don't want it to show up as untaxed while parked on a public road.

KevinCamaroSS

11,630 posts

280 months

Wednesday 28th June 2017
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fooby said:
As the previous owner has the car taxed until April 2018, could she actually cancel the tax before ordering a new logbook? Obviously if I can't get temporary tax and she cancels the tax
Tax automatically ceases on change of registered keeper. You will have to tax it or SORN it yourself.

Why did she not have the V5C? Could it be a logbook loan which probably will not appear on HPI. She should have got a replacement V5C before selling the car if it a genuine case of losing it.

fooby

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Thursday 29th June 2017
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KevinCamaroSS said:
Tax automatically ceases on change of registered keeper. You will have to tax it or SORN it yourself.

Why did she not have the V5C? Could it be a logbook loan which probably will not appear on HPI. She should have got a replacement V5C before selling the car if it a genuine case of losing it.
I was told about it by my local mechanic who has serviced the car for the last five years, she wanted rid as she had a new smaller car and I knocked a hefty chunk off the price for a quick sale. I even have the receipt from her buying the car outright so I trust it's not on loan.

I called the DVLA this morning, for anyone interested the process is you can tax with V62 immediately at the post office if there is no current owner on record, otherwise they contact the current registered keeper to confirm it has been sold and if there is no response within 6 weeks, they send out the V5C to the V62 applicant regardless.


Edited by fooby on Thursday 29th June 01:53

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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fooby said:
was told about it by my local mechanic who has serviced the car for the last five years, she wanted rid as she had a new smaller car and I knocked a hefty chunk off the price for a quick sale. I even have the receipt from her buying the car outright so I trust it's not on loan.
Edited by fooby on Thursday 29th June 01:53
A logbook loan isn't used to buy the car, it's where someone takes out a loan using the car as security and the logbook is taken to help prevent them selling the car. They often don't show up on HPI checks.

It does sound like it's not likely in your case, but you've taken more of a risk than you probably realise. Hopefully it all works out OK.

Ahbefive

11,657 posts

172 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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The thing is, if you can't HPI check for a logbook loan peoole are effectively always at risk when buying a car privately.

fooby

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326 posts

100 months

Saturday 1st July 2017
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Logbook loans sound incredibly dodgey.

Good news!

I went to send off the V62 today at the post office and their information was completely different from the DVLA, and matched what the post office website says.

They will tax it when you send off the V62 either if there is no registered keeper OR if you have the previous keepers name and address and it matches what is on file, along with the VIN.

Looks like people are stuck for 6 weeks only if they didn't take the previous keepers information when they purchased the vehicle.

Edited by fooby on Saturday 1st July 11:55