dash cam sees wheel smashing up a car, no ones interested

dash cam sees wheel smashing up a car, no ones interested

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blue al

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937 posts

159 months

Wednesday 28th June 2017
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My dash cam caught a wheel bouncing along the road after detaching itself off a twin axel trailer being towed by a twin cab 4x4.

It then got hit full on by a 40ton unit, so hard that it bounced across the dual carriage way hitting a oncoming car head on, smashing both the windscreen and roof, at closing speeds I guess well in excess of 100mph.

I have reported this to police but they appear to have no records of the incident, and will contact me if required ...

I also informed the road haulage company, via email to 4 directors and managers
They at very least have a damaged tractor unit that needs repairs

No one has replied

I have the reg of the idiot who caused this, + footage of the trailer on 3 wheels

My thoughts were it could have killed someone and at the very least wrote off their car
Could well have well caused serious injuries and a secondary RTA,
my eyes were firmly facing forward expecting more wheels or a trailer so I never checked rear view mirrors.
I cannot conceive of the road not being closed and a full recovery taking place
It's not Hollywood they won't have just kicked the glass out and carried on driving.

As a footnote
It's next to impossible to get hold of the police, 6 calls to 101, holding messages tell you to go online, yet you cannot email anyone, and when you get to speak to a controller it seems they have little concept of geography of the local trunk roads, so I have my doubts this information will ever be made available to the victims,
from their perspective a wheel has just fallen out of the sky. Now they have to take another hit in the wallet.

Should I just stick the footage on you-tube, then there might be a chance that someone who knows the victim can make sure they have all the information to hand to make a claim ?

What's correct way to help if the authorities aren't able/under resourced or CBA
What if the 4x4 car/driver isn't insured will the the victims be in a worse position?

Anyone with past experience please give me some pointers ?




Edited by blue al on Wednesday 28th June 21:45

MitchT

15,855 posts

209 months

Wednesday 28th June 2017
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Stick it on YouTube and share it via social media. Hopefully it'll find its way to the victim and they can then pass it on to their insurer.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 28th June 2017
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It could be the transport manager is on holiday or they are investigating before responding considering the potential legal implications.

You could just upload it to the company facebook page and wait.

eldar

21,718 posts

196 months

Wednesday 28th June 2017
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MitchT said:
Stick it on YouTube and share it via social media. Hopefully it'll find its way to the victim and they can then pass it on to their insurer.
This. Ought to get some publicity.

Josho

748 posts

97 months

Wednesday 28th June 2017
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eldar said:
This. Ought to get some publicity.
And we want to see it.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 28th June 2017
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blue al said:
As a footnote
It's next to impossible to get hold of the police,

Edited by blue al on Wednesday 28th June 21:45
I once emailed my local police station to inform them that a local thug was selling illegal firearms to anyone who wanted one. I attached photos, details of the perpetrators, names, my contact details etc.

Over a week later I get a reply telling me that if I saw a crime being committed I should phone and speak to an officer as they don't pass emails about crimes on to their officers.

I didn't bother to phone. As far as I was concerned they had as much info as possible on a serious crime sent to them and couldn't be fked to do anything with it.

jm doc

2,788 posts

232 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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Send them dashcam video of someone speeding, they will be on to them in a flash

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

123 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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MitchT said:
Stick it on YouTube and share it via social media. Hopefully it'll find its way to the victim and they can then pass it on to their insurer.
+1

It will probably get the attention of the likes of the Mail and Sun too. Then the police will be interested I bet.

mikeveal

4,570 posts

250 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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Was the car on the A34 going south just before 4pm?

I wondered what the hell had hit that. When I passed the driver seemed OK, but the windscreen and roof were badly stoved in.

Durzel

12,258 posts

168 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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Stick it on YouTube. As said above you will get the likes of the Mail & Sun all over it, and the driver will probably end up being identified that way. You could monetise it as well, if you felt inclined.

TwistingMyMelon

6,385 posts

205 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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Durzel said:
Stick it on YouTube. As said above you will get the likes of the Mail & Sun all over it, and the driver will probably end up being identified that way. You could monetise it as well, if you felt inclined.
This

Atomic12C

5,180 posts

217 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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So are there three parties involved in this incident?
The vehicle by which the wheel detached - did it stop and report the accident?
The vehicle that hit the wheel causing it to rebound.
The vehicle by which the rebounded wheel then hit and which caused damage to the windscreen and roof etc.

Insurance companies are going to have a fun time bouncing responsibility around.
But first step would be to send evidence to relevant insurance company.

If vehicles didn't stop to report accident then surely police would have to take interest?


blue al

Original Poster:

937 posts

159 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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mikeveal said:
Was the car on the A34 going south just before 4pm?

I wondered what the hell had hit that. When I passed the driver seemed OK, but the windscreen and roof were badly stoved in.
Thanks for the heads up, pleased to hear that they looked ok
Yep 3 miles south of tothill services Black polo/golf I think

wack

2,103 posts

206 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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The "idiot" that caused this might be guilty of nothing , somebody has to be negligent to be at fault , if it'd been an unsecured load 100% guilty but a wheel coming off due to mechanical failure could be anything , poor maintence , hitting something in the road , component failure.

Trailers and caravans are usually very badly maintained though , left all winter then hitch up and go

Andehh

7,108 posts

206 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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I would have dialled 999 as soon as I saw it all unfold. That's an emergency situation.

mikeveal

4,570 posts

250 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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blue al said:
Thanks for the heads up, pleased to hear that they looked ok
Yep 3 miles south of tothill services Black polo/golf I think
That was it. Damage to the Polo was about central, driver was out and walking about, cars were in a layby. Had the wheel hit any closer to the driver it may have been a different story.
I'm pleased to hear that the dent wasn't caused by a biker!

GC8

19,910 posts

190 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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wack said:
The "idiot" that caused this might be guilty of nothing , somebody has to be negligent to be at fault , if it'd been an unsecured load 100% guilty but a wheel coming off due to mechanical failure could be anything , poor maintence , hitting something in the road , component failure.

Trailers and caravans are usually very badly maintained though , left all winter then hitch up and go
Youre on the back foot with wheel security. Unless a sudden failure can be proved Id say that the driver was negligent. If it failed rather than came loose then it is less straightforward.

blue al

Original Poster:

937 posts

159 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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Hopefully he might know someone here...

The footage shows the wheel going into orbit after impact
Think it may have cleared the trees on right hand side so luckily no further collateral damage


Edited by blue al on Friday 30th June 20:46

carinaman

21,287 posts

172 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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TwistingMyMelon said:
Durzel said:
Stick it on YouTube. As said above you will get the likes of the Mail & Sun all over it, and the driver will probably end up being identified that way. You could monetise it as well, if you felt inclined.
This
When some police forces want the public to inform on others via dashcam footage, but the OP has found it almost impossible for the police to show any interest in this footage it's difficult to argue against that suggestion. The taxpayer funded police use footage to promote themselves and criticise others, so why shouldn't others?

Our elected representatives can use any slight slight or incident to promote themselves and/or their agendas uploading it with a view to making some money doesn't seem overly unethical or unseemly.


Thanks for uploading the still OP.

Durzel

12,258 posts

168 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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carinaman said:
When some police forces want the public to inform on others via dashcam footage, but the OP has found it almost impossible for the police to show any interest in this footage it's difficult to argue against that suggestion. The taxpayer funded police use footage to promote themselves and criticise others, so why shouldn't others?

Our elected representatives can use any slight slight or incident to promote themselves and/or their agendas uploading it with a view to making some money doesn't seem overly unethical or unseemly.


Thanks for uploading the still OP.
I wasn't being cynical really. Uploading it to YouTube makes sense, the driver might get identified simply through it being linked from various places.

Not entirely sure why the OP seems to be being coy about uploading it to be honest.