Another period number plate question.....
Discussion
OK,
I understand that any vehicle registered after January 1st 1973 must have the "new" type of reflective plates
However, I have a 2011 Royal Enfield 500cc motorbike that to all intents and purposes looks like a 1955 one, only "enthusiasts" would be able to spot the difference.
The only thing is the "new" yellow/black number plate looks out completely of place, it would look far better with a black & white pressed steel plate, but obviously I don't want to fall foul of the law.
I was thinking...
...if I purchased a dateless plate from a 1950's/60's car or motorbike cheaply, for example 123 ABC or even a dated one pre '73 for example MMF 45G would that be allowed, because the plate is now legally linked to my bike, once I have paid the DVLA transfer fee?
I understand that any vehicle registered after January 1st 1973 must have the "new" type of reflective plates
However, I have a 2011 Royal Enfield 500cc motorbike that to all intents and purposes looks like a 1955 one, only "enthusiasts" would be able to spot the difference.
The only thing is the "new" yellow/black number plate looks out completely of place, it would look far better with a black & white pressed steel plate, but obviously I don't want to fall foul of the law.
I was thinking...
...if I purchased a dateless plate from a 1950's/60's car or motorbike cheaply, for example 123 ABC or even a dated one pre '73 for example MMF 45G would that be allowed, because the plate is now legally linked to my bike, once I have paid the DVLA transfer fee?Aviz said:
It's actually 1976 now.
No I wouldn't be allowed technically , but I reckon you'd get away with it . Lots of the mini boys do exactly that
Worst that would happen IMHO would be vehicle rectification if you were ever stopped, tbh I think traffic plod are too stretched to worry about things like wrong coloured plates. No I wouldn't be allowed technically , but I reckon you'd get away with it . Lots of the mini boys do exactly that
A friend of mine has a 2009 Cobra Replica, the original plates looked.... well... wrong!
He did exactly what you are considering, bought a late 60s plate in black and white and just uses that. Not had any issue at all in 18 months now, even has a small sticker plate on the front now. I'm surprised it passes the MOT but know he takes it to a 'specialist'.
End of day, your bike and your money. You know that technically it's not allowed and you run the risk of getting caught and possibly fined. Your choice mate.
He did exactly what you are considering, bought a late 60s plate in black and white and just uses that. Not had any issue at all in 18 months now, even has a small sticker plate on the front now. I'm surprised it passes the MOT but know he takes it to a 'specialist'.
End of day, your bike and your money. You know that technically it's not allowed and you run the risk of getting caught and possibly fined. Your choice mate.
Phil Dicky said:
Worst that would happen IMHO would be vehicle rectification if you were ever stopped, tbh I think traffic plod are too stretched to worry about things like wrong coloured plates.
Assuming they can work out the actual age of the bike.There was a serious point to the introduction of reflective plates back in the day - safety. Many of the 'classics' now sporting period plates probably left the showroom with reflective plates as they were: a) trendy, b) practical.
They weren't imposed brussels style on a reluctant motoring community, they were enthusiastically adopted.
Dogwatch said:
Phil Dicky said:
Worst that would happen IMHO would be vehicle rectification if you were ever stopped, tbh I think traffic plod are too stretched to worry about things like wrong coloured plates.
Assuming they can work out the actual age of the bike.There was a serious point to the introduction of reflective plates back in the day - safety. Many of the 'classics' now sporting period plates probably left the showroom with reflective plates as they were: a) trendy, b) practical.
They weren't imposed brussels style on a reluctant motoring community, they were enthusiastically adopted.
Dogwatch said:
Assuming they can work out the actual age of the bike.
There was a serious point to the introduction of reflective plates back in the day - safety. Many of the 'classics' now sporting period plates probably left the showroom with reflective plates as they were: a) trendy, b) practical.
They weren't imposed brussels style on a reluctant motoring community, they were enthusiastically adopted.
Who's safety?There was a serious point to the introduction of reflective plates back in the day - safety. Many of the 'classics' now sporting period plates probably left the showroom with reflective plates as they were: a) trendy, b) practical.
They weren't imposed brussels style on a reluctant motoring community, they were enthusiastically adopted.
the policeman trying to read it in the dark?
Dogwatch said:
Phil Dicky said:
Worst that would happen IMHO would be vehicle rectification if you were ever stopped, tbh I think traffic plod are too stretched to worry about things like wrong coloured plates.
Assuming they can work out the actual age of the bike.Aviz said:
It's actually 1976 now.
No I wouldn't be allowed technically , but I reckon you'd get away with it . Lots of the mini boys do exactly that
I think you're thinking of the 40 Year Rolling Exemption for classic vehicles in relation to Road Tax (Vehicle Excise Duty) , black and white rear plates remains pre 1973.No I wouldn't be allowed technically , but I reckon you'd get away with it . Lots of the mini boys do exactly that
The OP says ''obviously I don't want to fall foul of the law.'' but by transferring a pre 1973 cherished registration number onto the bike will still be falling foul, although less obvious.
I wouldn't be able to tell, it's only when the Enfields started getting electric start and then fuel injection that it becomes more obvious to me about the age of the bike.
the tribester said:
Aviz said:
It's actually 1976 now.
No I wouldn't be allowed technically , but I reckon you'd get away with it . Lots of the mini boys do exactly that
I think you're thinking of the 40 Year Rolling Exemption for classic vehicles in relation to Road Tax (Vehicle Excise Duty) , black and white rear plates remains pre 1973.No I wouldn't be allowed technically , but I reckon you'd get away with it . Lots of the mini boys do exactly that
craigjm said:
the tribester said:
Aviz said:
It's actually 1976 now.
No I wouldn't be allowed technically , but I reckon you'd get away with it . Lots of the mini boys do exactly that
I think you're thinking of the 40 Year Rolling Exemption for classic vehicles in relation to Road Tax (Vehicle Excise Duty) , black and white rear plates remains pre 1973.No I wouldn't be allowed technically , but I reckon you'd get away with it . Lots of the mini boys do exactly that
So the 'pre 73 style plates' rules is also in the rolling 40 year rule, as long as the owner has completed the histroic tax class bit. I didn't know that. Thanks.
the tribester said:
Well I'm blowed.
So the 'pre 73 style plates' rules is also in the rolling 40 year rule, as long as the owner has completed the histroic tax class bit. I didn't know that. Thanks.
Indeed. It can't continue surely though. I mean my XJ Coupe would look great on black plates but in 4 years time if it continues then Mk3 Escorts etc will be able to run them and that will just look weird So the 'pre 73 style plates' rules is also in the rolling 40 year rule, as long as the owner has completed the histroic tax class bit. I didn't know that. Thanks.
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