Moped Mugger Defence System
Discussion
mcdjl said:
PixelpeepS3 said:
Awareness of surroundings, leaving suitable gaps when stationary in case you need to 'move off' in a hurry
that's the sensible options..
not so sensible would be having one of these to hand for squirting in the eyes...
Not sure how much a defense 'it must have rolled out my shopping bag' would be when questioned though...
Almost an irony to be defending yourself from an acid attack with citric acid.that's the sensible options..
not so sensible would be having one of these to hand for squirting in the eyes...
Not sure how much a defense 'it must have rolled out my shopping bag' would be when questioned though...
There seem to have a lot of attacks to steal motorbikes or scooters. I guess an imobiliser that cuts the engine when it goes out of range of a transmitter in your pocket might be a bit dangerous if it ever lost connectivity when you're riding. An immobiliser you could send a text message to would do the job though.
PixelpeepS3 said:
Awareness of surroundings, leaving suitable gaps when stationary in case you need to 'move off' in a hurry
Yeah you say that but unless you've taken one of those pills from Limitless you're never going to be 100% aware of your surroundings in London. Especially if you're chatting to your passengers, have kids in the car, listening to the radio etc. And you if you leave gaps someone will cut in 
always have a 3d Maglite in the door pocket,
i'm a taxi driver so thankfully I use it for its intended purpose most days spotting house numbers in the dark
that said against a mugger wearing a full face helmet your not going to do much good,
change of plan nigh on 2 ton of Mondeo makes quite a good defensive weapon.
i'm a taxi driver so thankfully I use it for its intended purpose most days spotting house numbers in the dark
that said against a mugger wearing a full face helmet your not going to do much good,
change of plan nigh on 2 ton of Mondeo makes quite a good defensive weapon.
Shaoxter said:
PixelpeepS3 said:
Awareness of surroundings, leaving suitable gaps when stationary in case you need to 'move off' in a hurry
Yeah you say that but unless you've taken one of those pills from Limitless you're never going to be 100% aware of your surroundings in London. Especially if you're chatting to your passengers, have kids in the car, listening to the radio etc. And you if you leave gaps someone will cut in No, you cant be 100% but i'd take 80 rather than 0
if you have kids in the car you should be MORE aware of your surroundings - they might be crying now because Thomas has stolen Freddies favourite pokemon but you can guarantee they'll be crying a lot more if hey catch the acid back spray
Leave a gap to pull out of the traffic, doesn't have to be a full car length lol...
Glasgowrob said:
always have a 3d Maglite in the door pocket,
i'm a taxi driver so thankfully I use it for its intended purpose most days spotting house numbers in the dark
that said against a mugger wearing a full face helmet your not going to do much good,
change of plan nigh on 2 ton of Mondeo makes quite a good defensive weapon.
MAC10 under the drivers seat works wonders. i'm a taxi driver so thankfully I use it for its intended purpose most days spotting house numbers in the dark
that said against a mugger wearing a full face helmet your not going to do much good,
change of plan nigh on 2 ton of Mondeo makes quite a good defensive weapon.
Edited by nikaiyo2 on Friday 21st July 15:54
andburg said:
Pevention is better....I found the best way to avoid that kind of scum is to stay out of London
Whilst I'm not happy about giving in to the terrorists, global human detritus & rail strikers I have given London a 100% swerve for the last 12 months AND I live only 60 miles away.No shows, no overnights in nice hotels, no visiting at least 3 annual art exhibitions, no museum visits. Been there done it & now the shameful capital of my country can go to hell.
I seem to remember a rather racist phrase some years ago describing the 'White Flight' From London. Nowadays is there anywhere left to fly to though?
Not allowing them access to the vehicle is generally the best way. I developed a system about 7 years ago to provide basic up armor to normal vehicles with minimal weight penalty and no changes to vehicle operation. It was a three piece system comprising of a 400 micron side window and 225 micro rear/front window bonded film, ballistic blankets bonded to the inner of the outer door skins and inner of the rear wings with a similar epoxy to that used in wet carbon lay up and self sealing tyres. This was sufficient to provide good side protection from small caliber hand guns and 12 bores at 10M, anything none ballistic up close e.g bats, knives etc. and small IEDS, Grenades etc. at 15M whilst still allowing the vehicle to drive away for a short distance. In total it added around 14KGs to the vehicles weight.
This video shows a similar but thinner window film resisting a 12 bore at 15M - https://youtu.be/N6a55ba3l1Y?t=1m40s
Just the window film on the side windows alone would stop the Moped lot, even if they were armed with safety hammers, centre punches etc. but not a lot is going to help if you drive around with your windows down. I've been to some dodgy bits of the world in my car (not just central London!
) and generally if you have the windows up they'll wait for the next person who doesn't.
This video shows a similar but thinner window film resisting a 12 bore at 15M - https://youtu.be/N6a55ba3l1Y?t=1m40s
Just the window film on the side windows alone would stop the Moped lot, even if they were armed with safety hammers, centre punches etc. but not a lot is going to help if you drive around with your windows down. I've been to some dodgy bits of the world in my car (not just central London!
) and generally if you have the windows up they'll wait for the next person who doesn't. Few ideas....
1. Heavily chain yourself to the bike, so if they want your bike, they have to accept potential kidnapping charges as well.
2. Try blinding them - it would be difficult but if you could somehow cover their helmet,in quick succession, with strips of duct tape obstructing their view, this would surely piss them off and would be hard to remove with gloves. Maybe have a built in duct tape dispenser on the side of the bike?
3. Try putting them off from taking your bike - carry a bag of your own faeces and if it comes to it, just smear it all over your bike.
Or carry a bottle of matured urine and spray them with it. Back in secondary school someone left a bottle of piss in an unused locker in our class room, we stupidly decided to play football with it after a good three or four months and it exploded everywhere when someone drop kicked it. It was horrific.
4. Try confusing them - when they attempt to steal your bike, quickly puncture your own tyres, then attempt to steal theirs instead.
5. Claim you accidentally mistook them for cute baby seals, which led to their maiming by your handy seal club.
1. Heavily chain yourself to the bike, so if they want your bike, they have to accept potential kidnapping charges as well.
2. Try blinding them - it would be difficult but if you could somehow cover their helmet,in quick succession, with strips of duct tape obstructing their view, this would surely piss them off and would be hard to remove with gloves. Maybe have a built in duct tape dispenser on the side of the bike?
3. Try putting them off from taking your bike - carry a bag of your own faeces and if it comes to it, just smear it all over your bike.
Or carry a bottle of matured urine and spray them with it. Back in secondary school someone left a bottle of piss in an unused locker in our class room, we stupidly decided to play football with it after a good three or four months and it exploded everywhere when someone drop kicked it. It was horrific.
4. Try confusing them - when they attempt to steal your bike, quickly puncture your own tyres, then attempt to steal theirs instead.
5. Claim you accidentally mistook them for cute baby seals, which led to their maiming by your handy seal club.
Edited by pogba on Saturday 22 July 06:34
Edited by pogba on Saturday 22 July 06:37
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