Severn Bridge Toll to be Scrapped

Severn Bridge Toll to be Scrapped

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Cold

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15,236 posts

90 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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Toll charges on the Severn Bridge will be abolished by the end of next year, which can only be good news -
unless you're a toll booth employee.
Some suggest it's a smokescreen to cover up the announcement about no electrification of the rail lines, but the toll going should help both business and tourism in the area.

Is this the right time to glance over at the Dartford Crossing?

BBC Link

TEKNOPUG

18,927 posts

205 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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Cold said:
Toll charges on the Severn Bridge will be abolished by the end of next year, which can only be good news -
unless you're a toll booth employee.
Some suggest it's a smokescreen to cover up the announcement about no electrification of the rail lines, but the toll going should help both business and tourism in the area.

Is this the right time to glance over at the Dartford Crossing?

BBC Link
Whilst it's good news for business in Wales, there will still be ongoing maitenance costs. I was watcing documentary on the Forth road bridge last night - £16m to build in 1964 but has since cost £250m+ in maintenance and improvements. So the money will still have to come from somewhere.

sidicks

25,218 posts

221 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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TEKNOPUG said:
Whilst it's good news for business in Wales, there will still be ongoing maitenance costs. I was watcing documentary on the Forth road bridge last night - £16m to build in 1964 but has since cost £250m+ in maintenance and improvements. So the money will still have to come from somewhere.
Maybe they could use some of the tens of billions the Treausry takes from motorists...?!

TEKNOPUG

18,927 posts

205 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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sidicks said:
Maybe they could use some of the tens of billions the Treausry takes from motorists...?!
You mean in the form of some kind of "vehicle" tax? scratchchin


hornetrider

63,161 posts

205 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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We sold our house ten minutes from the crossing just under the years ago. All my friends in the area are rubbing their hands at the potential house price increase. Ah well!

TEKNOPUG

18,927 posts

205 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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hornetrider said:
We sold our house ten minutes from the crossing just under the years ago. All my friends in the area are rubbing their hands at the potential house price increase. Ah well!
You think it will make that much difference?

55palfers

5,905 posts

164 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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Why does it take so long to scrap the toll?

M6 Toll next?

TEKNOPUG

18,927 posts

205 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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55palfers said:
Why does it take so long to scrap the toll?

M6 Toll next?
2018 is when the current contract with the maintenance operator expires. Then the government take it over.

Surely removing the M6 toll will remove the beneft of using it?

Yipper

5,964 posts

90 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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So... Cancelling the Severn toll will lose ~£100m in annual revenue... While benefitting the Welsh economy by ~£100m... Welsh economic management at its finest...

Digga

40,295 posts

283 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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TEKNOPUG said:
Surely removing the M6 toll will remove the beneft of using it?
Yes, but then it will remove the resistance for those who do not currently use it - freight and the motoring masses - thereby adding instantly to capacity in the region and removing a huge burden from the M6.

It's not a win-win scenario, but it's probably the best compromise. Next up they should be adding extra lanes to the M42 north of the M6 and also upgrading/by-passing the A34 from Stoke to Birmingham. The UK desperately needs road infrastructure investment to increase economic efficiency.

Nothingtoseehere

7,379 posts

154 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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Im happy to pay the toll.
It produces some excellent views and it should be able to compete on maintenance in a competitive bridge market.
Paying the toll means we get the best toll operators who are envied across the world.

ZOLLAR

19,908 posts

173 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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Cold said:
Toll charges on the Severn Bridge will be abolished by the end of next year, which can only be good news -
unless you're a toll booth employee.
Some suggest it's a smokescreen to cover up the announcement about no electrification of the rail lines, but the toll going should help both business and tourism in the area.

Is this the right time to glance over at the Dartford Crossing?

BBC Link
Terrible Terrible news......

for anyone that has paid at the tolls the best part is flooring it along the big wide section that follows, no doubt that'll be taken away cry

Sheepshanks

32,718 posts

119 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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TEKNOPUG said:
Surely removing the M6 toll will remove the beneft of using it?
I haven't looked for a while but the M6 Toll usage stats were insane - it was steadily running at half the expected number of vehicles. I suppose at least it will wear out much more slowly than expected.

TEKNOPUG

18,927 posts

205 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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Sheepshanks said:
TEKNOPUG said:
Surely removing the M6 toll will remove the beneft of using it?
I haven't looked for a while but the M6 Toll usage stats were insane - it was steadily running at half the expected number of vehicles. I suppose at least it will wear out much more slowly than expected.
I meant from the driver perspective. If you remove the toll, surely it will just fill up with traffic and jams and journey times will be increased?

Sheepshanks

32,718 posts

119 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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TEKNOPUG said:
I meant from the driver perspective. If you remove the toll, surely it will just fill up with traffic and jams and journey times will be increased?
Absolutely. But they could do more - I guess that means reduce the price - to encourage greater use. I don't like paying £5.50 - and I can claim it back!

TEKNOPUG

18,927 posts

205 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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Sheepshanks said:
TEKNOPUG said:
I meant from the driver perspective. If you remove the toll, surely it will just fill up with traffic and jams and journey times will be increased?
Absolutely. But they could do more - I guess that means reduce the price - to encourage greater use. I don't like paying £5.50 - and I can claim it back!
I guess so.

WCZ

10,516 posts

194 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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55palfers said:
Why does it take so long to scrap the toll?

M6 Toll next?
I really hope they don't scrap it, I'd rather pay then have it congested

abzmike

8,337 posts

106 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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ZOLLAR said:
Terrible Terrible news......

for anyone that has paid at the tolls the best part is flooring it along the big wide section that follows, no doubt that'll be taken away cry
If it is anything like the Forth Road Bridge when they stopped charging, there were roadworks for about 6 months while they took away the old huts and barriers. Something to look forward to...

Edited by abzmike on Friday 21st July 14:31

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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They should double the m6 toll and derestrict it. biggrin

DapperDanMan

2,622 posts

207 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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55palfers said:
Why does it take so long to scrap the toll?

M6 Toll next?
Please let this happen God let this happen.

It would transform the Midlands motorway bottleneck around M5/M6 and reduce loss of time and pollution dramatically.