Problem getting disabled space painted by council

Problem getting disabled space painted by council

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rainagain

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321 posts

155 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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My MIL has a long term debilitating illness that has been getting worse, she used to live in a 1st floor council flat but the stairs were getting too much for her, so the council have moved her into a nice new build ground floor council flat complete with new parking. However the rest of the street have now started parking in the spaces for the new flat, meaning she often can’t get parked resulting in an often painful walk to her home from along the street.

I contacted the council and asked if they could mark one of the spaced as disabled so she could get parked ok, but they said they can’t until the development is ‘adopted’ from the developer. Until then they said they are not going to do anything. I argued that she is not going to magically get better until then, but they don’t care. I asked if the developer gave them permission could they mark it, but again they said no.

Does anyone know if there is anything I could quote to them to spur them into action, some disability rights act type thing? It’s really upsetting my MIL who was otherwise enjoying her new house and not having to tackle stairs every day.

SantaBarbara

3,244 posts

107 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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Get some traffic cones to mark the space

surveyor

17,764 posts

183 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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In the old days they would have just clamped the bds.

Not any more now anyone can park anywhere and to suggest they can't is an affront to their civil liberty.

randlemarcus

13,507 posts

230 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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Collapsible posts? How many spaces are there overall, and are they allocated? Cheapest fix might be for the developer to paint numbers on the spaces, and then you stick a post on No 73's space.

DarylB90

150 posts

110 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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Does she have a space allocated to her? or is it just parking free for anyone to use?

Decky_Q

1,500 posts

176 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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paint one yourself, its currently unadopted so private property.

Mandat

3,878 posts

237 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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Can you get the developer to do it?

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

125 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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rainagain said:
I contacted the council and asked if they could mark one of the spaced as disabled so she could get parked ok, but they said they can’t until the development is ‘adopted’ from the developer. Until then they said they are not going to do anything.
You misunderstand them. It's not that they won't do anything, but they can't. It's not their road to do anything with until it's adopted.

rainagain said:
I asked if the developer gave them permission could they mark it, but again they said no.
And such is their right. It would quite likely not be enforceable, anyway.

rainagain said:
Does anyone know if there is anything I could quote to them to spur them into action, some disability rights act type thing?
How is she being discriminated against?

BTW, you do know that marking a space as "disabled" simply means anybody with a blue badge can use it, not just one specific user, right?

elanfan

5,516 posts

226 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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As has been said it wouldn't be difficult to get some correct grade yellow paint and work to a pattern and do it yourself - who will know or object? I'd also get a stick on sign for the wall or kerb saying disabled parking reserved for Flat X

Would take a lot less time and effort than chasing up the various departments you've tried so far...

Foliage

3,861 posts

121 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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You cant just do it yourself, well you could, but its a pain in the ass, a disabled space is the size of 2no. normal car size spaces. Id speak to the developer.

a

439 posts

83 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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You can't expect the council to paint markings on land that belongs to someone else.

Ask the developer, tell them it's urgent. If they aren't interested then email them, copying in the NHBC. I'm not sure whether it's technically something they have to do, or something the NHBC would enforce, but this does sometimes get things achieved in new developments.

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

232 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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Foliage said:
You cant just do it yourself, well you could, but its a pain in the ass, a disabled space is the size of 2no. normal car size spaces. Id speak to the developer.
If they are on site still speak to the site manager first, if not go to the developer.

Pica-Pica

13,617 posts

83 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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I did not see it stated, but does she have a blue badge. That should be the first point of call, whether she drives or not she should apply and be assessed for one.

herewego

8,814 posts

212 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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I note that everyone else in the new flats is also being abused by the rest of the street. And nothing anyone can do.

sospan

2,468 posts

221 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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Abused?
Strong term to use over non regulated parking!
Speak to the developer. If the properties concerned were planned to be for disabled occupants then provisions for their parking surely should have been included?

herewego

8,814 posts

212 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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sospan said:
Abused?
Strong term to use over non regulated parking!
Speak to the developer. If the properties concerned were planned to be for disabled occupants then provisions for their parking surely should have been included?
The OP said the flats have been provided with their own parking and people unrelated to the flats are using those spaces. That's abuse.

Vaud

50,285 posts

154 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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Talk with her local Councillor, and if that fails, her MP.

They are sometimes useless, but sometimes brilliant at representing their constituents and good ones will be very savvy at banging a few heads together.... nothing to lose... just keep a record of communications; if they fail to even respond you can shame them to the local press.

Who me ?

7,455 posts

211 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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i'd looked at getting one till I looked at my County Council site and found
"Please note an ‘advisory disabled person’s parking bay’ is unofficial and non-enforceable" -possibly a local County ruling?
But I've noticed that locally most disabled spaces are barely large enough to fit the car in .

QuickQuack

2,144 posts

100 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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TooMany2cvs said:
BTW, you do know that marking a space as "disabled" simply means anybody with a blue badge can use it, not just one specific user, right?
Errr, as a matter of fact, personalised disabled bays do exist. They are particularly common in London but many other places outside of London do seem to have a similar scheme. The disabled person has to apply for one as it's not an automatic right.



Having said that, we shouldn't detract from the fact that the council still can't do anything on land they don't own or a road they have not adopted. Sorry OP, I know it's a pain but until the road is adopted, the council cannot do anything.

Who me ?

7,455 posts

211 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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TooMany2cvs said:
BTW, you do know that marking a space as "disabled" simply means anybody with a blue badge can use it, not just one specific user, right?
That was what I'd heard ,until I looked at getting one. Then I found that in my County ,it's discretionary enforcement.I & other residents have found that a united front about spaces outside our properties ( I know we have no rights) makes regular visitors to other properties go elsewhere.
Possibly a local rule change. There's one near my son's place, and at times it's the only space around. I have no qualms about using it as I have a badge, but apparently the resident is very possessive and threatens to call police.