Problem getting disabled space painted by council

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[quote=Who me ?]

TooMany2cvs said:

BTW, you do know that marking a space as "disabled" simply means anybody with a blue badge can use it, not just one specific user, right?

That was what I'd heard ,until I looked at getting one. Then I found that in my County ,it's discretionary enforcement.I & other residents have found that a united front about spaces outside our properties ( I know we have no rights) makes regular visitors to other properties go elsewhere.
Possibly a local rule change. There's one near my son's place, and at times it's the only space around. I have no qualms about using it as I have a badge, but apparently the resident is very possessive and threatens to call police.

The police will not be interested. They were not interested in people parking on a wide grass verge to drop kids off near us. Not a criminal matter.

[rainagain]

Thanks for the replies everyone looks like she will just have to hang on until it's adopted. Seems a bit daft but such is life

[Type R Tom]

rainagain said:

Thanks for the replies everyone looks like she will just have to hang on until it's adopted. Seems a bit daft but such is life

I would keep trying if I were you, it could take years to be adopted.

Edit to add - any signs / markings would need to be of a standard that the council would adopt otherwise they may charge to burn off the lines / replace the signs which the developer won't want to pay for. Also as others have said it won't be enforceable and anyone with a blue badge can park unless your council allocates individual bays. The developer could take all this on of course but unless all of the people on the estate get together to protest it won't happen and even then very unlikely, they may have an interest if it was to remain private but from their point of view if it will become public its a lot of hassle for short term.

Edited by Type R Tom on Tuesday 19th September 07:50

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rainagain said:

Thanks for the replies everyone looks like she will just have to hang on until it's adopted. Seems a bit daft but such is life

You could try my suggestion. The council cant enforce, but they can appeal to reason. A building company wanting to keep the council "on side" may be willing to do something.

[sospan]

herewego said:

The OP said the flats have been provided with their own parking and people unrelated to the flats are using those spaces. That's abuse.

I would agree if there were marked restricted areas so getting these set up by the developer until the council take it on is required.
Until then it may need the residents to request those parking there to refrain due to the disability of the resident. Decent people would cooperate. A*******s wouldn't and that would be a form of abuse.

[98elise]

surveyor said:

In the old days they would have just clamped the bds.

Not any more now anyone can park anywhere and to suggest they can't is an affront to their civil liberty.

May be if the industry had not been so full of con men, thugs and crooks then it could have carried on as a service rather than a way to extort money.

[Sticks.]

The developer has provided a 'normal' parking space for each tenant, presumably. I wonder whether they are required to make a Reasonable Adjustment under the Equalities Act for a disabled tenant and provide a wider and adequately signed space.

[Type R Tom]

Sticks. said:

The developer has provided a 'normal' parking space for each tenant, presumably. I wonder whether they are required to make a Reasonable Adjustment under the Equalities Act for a disabled tenant and provide a wider and adequately signed space.

I doubt it, this is public highway, I don't think a 3m + wide bay in the middle of a load of 2.4m bays would be a good idea. Unless they are at 90 degrees to the road of course.

[Sticks.]

Type R Tom said:

I doubt it, this is public highway, I don't think a 3m + wide bay in the middle of a load of 2.4m bays would be a good idea. Unless they are at 90 degrees to the road of course.

I reread the OP and I'm not sure it is. The point still stands about marking/allocating either way, hence OP asking the developer. .

[surveyor]

98elise said:

surveyor said:

In the old days they would have just clamped the bds.

Not any more now anyone can park anywhere and to suggest they can't is an affront to their civil liberty.

May be if the industry had not been so full of con men, thugs and crooks then it could have carried on as a service rather than a way to extort money.

All they had to do was set a maximum fee and put in a proper ombudsman to overrule the cowboys. They would have soon stopped enjoying the party.

[sospan]

surveyor said:

All they had to do was set a maximum fee and put in a proper ombudsman to overrule the cowboys. They would have soon stopped enjoying the party.

600+ MPs start the lawmaking plus 800 Lords review and improve their work.
What could possibly go wrong?

[rainagain]

Type R Tom said:

I doubt it, this is public highway, I don't think a 3m + wide bay in the middle of a load of 2.4m bays would be a good idea. Unless they are at 90 degrees to the road of course.

The parking is 90 degrees to the road, with regards to the existing houses on the other side of the road, some have driveways others don't. I have sent the council an email today asking what adjustments they had made under Equalities Act for disabled tenants. It's a bit strange in general that there are no disabled spaces. I live in a new private build with a resident's carpark, they marked a percentage of the spaces as disabled without enquiringly if they were needed or not, I was assuming this was a legal requirement now.

[randlemarcus]

Is the space allocated, or twenty spaces and a free for all?

[SantaBarbara]

TooMany2cvs said:

How is she being discriminated against?

BTW, you do know that marking a space as "disabled" simply means anybody with a blue badge can use it, not just one specific user, right?

NO, specific spaces CAN be marked for a named person in certain circumstances

[Riley Blue]

SantaBarbara said:

TooMany2cvs said:

How is she being discriminated against?

BTW, you do know that marking a space as "disabled" simply means anybody with a blue badge can use it, not just one specific user, right?

NO, specific spaces CAN be marked for a named person in certain circumstances

As was illustrated on Monday.

[Who me ?]

From http://www.warwickshire.gov.uk/disabledparkingbay
For applicants where there are currently no parking restrictions in place
Please note an ‘advisory disabled person’s parking bay’ is unofficial and non-enforceable and all successful applicants must notify us when the parking Bay is no longer required.

For applicants where there are currently parking restrictions in place
(From the Formal application form)

I understand that although intended for my use, the bay provided may be used by other disabled drivers/blue badge holders


UNLESS, the situation varies from County/Authority to County /Authority.

[Who me ?]

[quote=Who me ?]From http://www.warwickshire.gov.uk/disabledparkingbay
For applicants where there are currently no parking restrictions in place
Please note an ‘advisory disabled person’s parking bay’ is unofficial and non-enforceable and all successful applicants must notify us when the parking Bay is no longer required.

For applicants where there are currently parking restrictions in place
The process may take a number of months due to the legal work involved.
(From the Formal application form)

I understand that although intended for my use, the bay provided may be used by other disabled drivers/blue badge holders


UNLESS, the situation varies from County/Authority to County /Authority.
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[Hol]

sospan said:

surveyor said:

All they had to do was set a maximum fee and put in a proper ombudsman to overrule the cowboys. They would have soon stopped enjoying the party.

600+ MPs start the lawmaking plus 800 Lords review and improve their work.
What could possibly go wrong?

Its just a shame that all the real ponces who like to park like a tt (and then bleat about the penalties being disproportionate to the amount they deliberately avoided in the first place) didn't leave the planet with the cowboys.