Son stopped 44 in a 30, already has 3 points, licence 2 yrs
Discussion
matchmaker said:
My son was caught speeding on the M9 a month after passing his test. Fixed penalty and 3 points. He learned a lesson and drove very carefully for the next 23 months!
My 17 year-old was done doing 34 in a 30 after 6 months (but still hasn't received the paperwork as we are still hoping for a course offer) and is therefore currently going through the risk of revocation if he gets caught again.I fitted a tracker to help him. https://www.rewiresecurity.co.uk/db3-odb-gps-track...
Him and I get alerts in case of speeding and also follow his speeds online in real time or afterwards. A bit Big Brother but worth the money for the 18 months to come and beyond, hopefully.
Ki3r said:
He won't go to court for it (unless he opts to by pleading not guilty).
Not quite. He'll go to court if he chooses not to accept the fixed penalty, which can mean either sending it back with the "I opt for a court appearance" box ticked, or not returning it at all. (The offer of a fixed penalty is one which he must actively accept if he prefers it to a court appearance).Once he gets a summons (or more likely SJPN these days) he'll be given the option of pleading guilty or not guilty. It's entirely possible to opt for court and plead guilty - and is what he'd have to do if he wanted to ask for a ban instead of points. (As above the magistrates would be unlikely to agree, but it's not entirely impossible that they would).
My message to the OP would be let him swallow the punishment and take the ban. It ll be the best lesson he can learn. It’s a harsh lesson for sure but obviously he hasn’t learnt the first time - not taking a speed awareness course is plain daft if offered. I will qualify this harsh advice below,
Some 15-16 yrs ago I was the one being caught speeding for a second offence within the first 2 yrs of driving.
My first offence was zig zag parking as I unloaded some bags from the boot of my car, friendly traffic officer , don’t think I even knew what zig zags were on the road for tbh.
Fast forward 6 months - I got caught doing 57 in a 30, I was in a new civic type r , at least partially funded by my parents. As ‘luck’ would have it seemed possible that my mum could’ve been driving that day - *cough cough , and after abit of Wrangling my mum took the points. ‘She’ was very close to getting a ban just on speed alone.
My life continued and I had learnt zero lessons infact the only lesson I had learnt was that my long suffering mother at least would bail me out whenever I got in over my head. That theme continued for many years and culminated in me blowing through 50 grand in 4 months that foolishly I was left in charge of, this was some years ago and rightly so even my dear mother couldn’t bail me out of that one.
The fact he isn’t seeking this advice out for himself would have alarm bells ringing for me- If he doesn’t learn his lesson with his driving freedom being restricted then he never will.
Some 15-16 yrs ago I was the one being caught speeding for a second offence within the first 2 yrs of driving.
My first offence was zig zag parking as I unloaded some bags from the boot of my car, friendly traffic officer , don’t think I even knew what zig zags were on the road for tbh.
Fast forward 6 months - I got caught doing 57 in a 30, I was in a new civic type r , at least partially funded by my parents. As ‘luck’ would have it seemed possible that my mum could’ve been driving that day - *cough cough , and after abit of Wrangling my mum took the points. ‘She’ was very close to getting a ban just on speed alone.
My life continued and I had learnt zero lessons infact the only lesson I had learnt was that my long suffering mother at least would bail me out whenever I got in over my head. That theme continued for many years and culminated in me blowing through 50 grand in 4 months that foolishly I was left in charge of, this was some years ago and rightly so even my dear mother couldn’t bail me out of that one.
The fact he isn’t seeking this advice out for himself would have alarm bells ringing for me- If he doesn’t learn his lesson with his driving freedom being restricted then he never will.
Edited by Fckitdriveon on Friday 22 September 18:46
I don’t know either of you but in his defence it’s all about education and the ability to take it on board and act on the information. It sounds like he either doesn’t want education or doesn’t take it on board.
I suffered from this when I first stared driving 20 odd years ago when the 6 point rule didn’t exist. Drove like a nutter everywhere in various cars culminating in me wrapping up a Fiat uno turbo I had saved for. Ironically I crashed in to a crematorium wall.
Front wheels were underneath the rear seat, engine was inside the seating area and the roof folded down in to the front passenger seat. It was approx 110mph roll in to a wall. My seatbelt had stretched such was the level of impact, no air bag meant I still went over the steering wheel and put a nice hole in the windscreen with my head.
Short spell in hospital not being able to feel or use my legs soon brought me round to getting a driving education. I put my self on courses, went and got motorcycle and hgv licences and advanced courses for my driving.
Now I know he was in the 40’s and wasn’t doing anything near what I was doing but having a licence to drive a car or ride a bike is one of the most liberating things you can have but can also put you in prison or leave you destitute not being able to work.
Good luck to him, we’re all young once and this is his chance to learn.
I suffered from this when I first stared driving 20 odd years ago when the 6 point rule didn’t exist. Drove like a nutter everywhere in various cars culminating in me wrapping up a Fiat uno turbo I had saved for. Ironically I crashed in to a crematorium wall.
Front wheels were underneath the rear seat, engine was inside the seating area and the roof folded down in to the front passenger seat. It was approx 110mph roll in to a wall. My seatbelt had stretched such was the level of impact, no air bag meant I still went over the steering wheel and put a nice hole in the windscreen with my head.
Short spell in hospital not being able to feel or use my legs soon brought me round to getting a driving education. I put my self on courses, went and got motorcycle and hgv licences and advanced courses for my driving.
Now I know he was in the 40’s and wasn’t doing anything near what I was doing but having a licence to drive a car or ride a bike is one of the most liberating things you can have but can also put you in prison or leave you destitute not being able to work.
Good luck to him, we’re all young once and this is his chance to learn.
A lot taking the moral highground. At age 30 or so I got 3 points for 44 in a 30 on my 125 motorbike. I came home from work, fitted a new chain, rode out of my road to check it was ok, turned left, turned left and got caught in a speed trap outside a school in school holidays. Big wide road, no traffic, no pedestrians, no junctions, the only hazard was a copper hiding behind the hedge with a radar gun!
No defense of course but it happens, I know countless non piston head kind of drivers who all have points, even the slowest of slowpokes.
No defense of course but it happens, I know countless non piston head kind of drivers who all have points, even the slowest of slowpokes.
kpeter202 said:
Short spell in hospital not being able to feel or use my legs soon brought me round to getting a driving education. I put my self on courses, went and got motorcycle ... licence
Sorry, but that did make me laugh..."Oh, I've nearly killed myself through massive over-exuberance in a motor vehicle! I know - I'll get a bike..."
nickfrog said:
My 17 year-old was done doing 34 in a 30 after 6 months (but still hasn't received the paperwork as we are still hoping for a course offer) and is therefore currently going through the risk of revocation if he gets caught again.
I fitted a tracker to help him. https://www.rewiresecurity.co.uk/db3-odb-gps-track...
Him and I get alerts in case of speeding and also follow his speeds online in real time or afterwards. A bit Big Brother but worth the money for the 18 months to come and beyond, hopefully.
Get him to sort himself out.I fitted a tracker to help him. https://www.rewiresecurity.co.uk/db3-odb-gps-track...
Him and I get alerts in case of speeding and also follow his speeds online in real time or afterwards. A bit Big Brother but worth the money for the 18 months to come and beyond, hopefully.
Being 17 and having your own car to drive around in is such a fabulous thing...I remember it well....but some seem not to realise. He needs to sort himself out and realise driving is an adult responsibility.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
kpeter202 said:
I suffered from this when I first stared driving 20 odd years ago when the 6 point rule didn’t exist. Drove like a nutter everywhere in various cars culminating in me wrapping up a Fiat uno turbo I had saved for..
Paris tunnel by any chance?
Pica-Pica said:
Tony33 said:
Vaud said:
It's only 24 months to keep below 6 points though, which is why I have no sympathy, and it wasn't 35 in a 30...
When you are 17 two years seems an eternity!PorkInsider said:
Pica-Pica said:
Tony33 said:
Vaud said:
It's only 24 months to keep below 6 points though, which is why I have no sympathy, and it wasn't 35 in a 30...
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