What is the purpose of the white line?
Discussion
Quite often those unbroken long white lines at the edge of the carriageway are just that. "Edge Of Carriageway Lines".
Eversley has them, designed, if I'm correctly informed, to psychologically persuade drivers that the road is narrower than it really is, and to further persuade drivers to stick to the 30 mph speed limit.
I've had one driver go nuts at me over them when I've been cycling there.
Him: "Get in the cycle lane!"
Me: "What cycle lane?"
Him: [pointing at the white line to my left] "That f
king cycle lane you tt."
Me: "It's not a fking cycle lane. Where did you get your driving licence? From a Christmas cracker?"
Him: "mumble, mumble, chunter, tt, fking chunter, mumble mumble." This must have been 'thinking time' because his next line was a classic. "You're holding up the fking traffic you tt!"
Me: "The road is plenty wide enough, you didn't need to slow down for a chat. YOU are the one who is holding up traffic, now do one..."
I'm not going to be cycling the wrong side of a solid white line for anyone, because I've been told about a bajillion times right here on PH that the rules of the road apply as much to me on my bicycle as they do to car drivers. Yet it seems that it's when I ride properly, following the law, and Highway Code advice, that I get the most problems with idiot drivers who want me to ride on the footway (an offence) or to ride the wrong side of lane marking lines simply because I'm in their way. Just as most/some/all/no (*delete according to your particular bias on the subject) drivers are hypocritical about when they should be obeying the rules/law themselves, so they are equally, or more hypocritical, when it comes to which rules/laws I should obey on my bicycle...
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.3482205,-0.86839...
Completely obstructing a footway to the point where a wheelchair or pushchair couldn't pass safely, in order to fill your Chavvy face with fags/sandwiches/Coke from the shop? Driving on the footway to get the car there? Both offences, but hey? He's a driver, so it's all OK. And even if it were a cycle lane (which it isn't) then I wouldn't use it anyway, because there's no point in a cycle lane if it's being used as a car park on a daily basis.
People who park on solid white lines? Knobs.
People who park obstructing footways? Knobs
People who park over dropped kerbs put in for the specific purpose of making crossing safer and easier for the mobility impaired? Especially knobbish knobs.
People who'll argue that black is white on internet forums in order to justify their own selfish, inconsiderate behaviour? I think you get the picture by now...
Just because it isn't spelled out on signs that something shouldn't be done, doesn't make it OK to do it. Park with consideration for others, and if you can't do that right outside where you want to be, park around the corner, or around the block somewhere and walk the last bit. Or carry on being a lazy ignorant twunt and park on the carriageway (or footway) where legitimate, considerate road users are wanting to drive (or walk).
Eversley has them, designed, if I'm correctly informed, to psychologically persuade drivers that the road is narrower than it really is, and to further persuade drivers to stick to the 30 mph speed limit.
I've had one driver go nuts at me over them when I've been cycling there.
Him: "Get in the cycle lane!"
Me: "What cycle lane?"
Him: [pointing at the white line to my left] "That f
king cycle lane you tt."Me: "It's not a f
king cycle lane. Where did you get your driving licence? From a Christmas cracker?"Him: "mumble, mumble, chunter, t
t, fking chunter, mumble mumble." This must have been 'thinking time' because his next line was a classic. "You're holding up the fking traffic you tt!"Me: "The road is plenty wide enough, you didn't need to slow down for a chat. YOU are the one who is holding up traffic, now do one..."
I'm not going to be cycling the wrong side of a solid white line for anyone, because I've been told about a bajillion times right here on PH that the rules of the road apply as much to me on my bicycle as they do to car drivers. Yet it seems that it's when I ride properly, following the law, and Highway Code advice, that I get the most problems with idiot drivers who want me to ride on the footway (an offence) or to ride the wrong side of lane marking lines simply because I'm in their way. Just as most/some/all/no (*delete according to your particular bias on the subject) drivers are hypocritical about when they should be obeying the rules/law themselves, so they are equally, or more hypocritical, when it comes to which rules/laws I should obey on my bicycle...
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.3482205,-0.86839...
Completely obstructing a footway to the point where a wheelchair or pushchair couldn't pass safely, in order to fill your Chavvy face with fags/sandwiches/Coke from the shop? Driving on the footway to get the car there? Both offences, but hey? He's a driver, so it's all OK. And even if it were a cycle lane (which it isn't) then I wouldn't use it anyway, because there's no point in a cycle lane if it's being used as a car park on a daily basis.
People who park on solid white lines? Knobs.
People who park obstructing footways? Knobs
People who park over dropped kerbs put in for the specific purpose of making crossing safer and easier for the mobility impaired? Especially knobbish knobs.
People who'll argue that black is white on internet forums in order to justify their own selfish, inconsiderate behaviour? I think you get the picture by now...
Just because it isn't spelled out on signs that something shouldn't be done, doesn't make it OK to do it. Park with consideration for others, and if you can't do that right outside where you want to be, park around the corner, or around the block somewhere and walk the last bit. Or carry on being a lazy ignorant twunt and park on the carriageway (or footway) where legitimate, considerate road users are wanting to drive (or walk).
Upatdawn said:
so avoid parking on the white line BUT..... if my wheel isnt on it but my rear overhang is over it is that good/bad/naughty?
had a run in with a lollipop man who uses the speed hump as a crossing point and almost crapped himself when i got out the car to see WTF he was on about, his lolly hit my car door too cos he wouldnt let me out the car....
I'm with the School Crossing Attendant on this one, I'm afraid.had a run in with a lollipop man who uses the speed hump as a crossing point and almost crapped himself when i got out the car to see WTF he was on about, his lolly hit my car door too cos he wouldnt let me out the car....
It's his DUTY to ensure the safety of children using his crossing, and to ensure that he carries out his duties safely too. So if some inconsiderate muppet decides to park so close to the crossing point that he can't properly see oncoming traffic, and more importantly, oncoming traffic can't see him very well, then it compromises the safety of EVERYONE using that crossing point.
Genuine question. Why the need to park on that specific point? Could you not achieve your objective by parking a little further away, or off around a corner, and walk to where you need to be?
martinbiz said:
tigger1 said:
I'm still curious about the solid line in the middle of the hump - whasthafor?
Are you serious? Same as a solid white line in the middle of any road, do not cross it (except when safe to do so in special circumstances)And the one at the edge is an edge of carriageway marking.
Swervin_Mervin said:
martinbiz said:
tigger1 said:
I'm still curious about the solid line in the middle of the hump - whasthafor?
Are you serious? Same as a solid white line in the middle of any road, do not cross it (except when safe to do so in special circumstances)And the one at the edge is an edge of carriageway marking.
Pica-Pica said:
Swervin_Mervin said:
martinbiz said:
tigger1 said:
I'm still curious about the solid line in the middle of the hump - whasthafor?
You can cross it.
No you can't You can cross it.
Also pica pica's earlier post ( you know, the one you don't want to read) is correct about the area being kept clear of staionary vehicles, parked or otherwise.
Edited by martinbiz on Saturday 14th October 11:03
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