Bought 'new' item today, then emailed saying scratched etc

Bought 'new' item today, then emailed saying scratched etc

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robbocop33

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1,184 posts

107 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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OK, situation is I'm restoring a motorcycle, panel I needed is rare, as in one known of in world.
After being let down by one company who couldn't get the part, I had to pay another company who had it 20 percent more than the dealer's (Kawasaki) price!
An hour goes by and I get email saying item isn't in perfect condition?? And included were three photos of scratched areas, one part white looking mark on the black paint and lots of fine scratches behind this like it had been rubbed with a coarse item for an inch or two.
So I replied responding to their question, did I still want it? Well yes I said, but is their any chance of a discount due to the damage?
Do I have a 'right' to a discount or can they do what they want due to the rarity of the item?
Thanks. Here's some pics



Edited by robbocop33 on Monday 16th October 18:36

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

157 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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They can seek to charge whatever they like.

You don't have to buy it.

catman

2,490 posts

175 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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of course you don't have a right to a discount. They don't have to sell it to you at all if they choose not to.

Tim

robbocop33

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107 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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PurpleMoonlight said:
They can seek to charge whatever they like.

You don't have to buy it.
I 'do' have to buy it, as I said it's the only one in the world! 'and' coincidentally it's the last part I need to complete the restoration.

Pica-Pica

13,788 posts

84 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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They have a right to offer to sell at their price, you have the right to make an offer to buy at a different price. That is business and contracts. Until you both agree there is no sale. There may be loads of other buyers, there may be none. That is supply and demand.

williredale

2,866 posts

152 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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robbocop33 said:
I 'do' have to buy it, as I said it's the only one in the world! 'and' coincidentally it's the last part I need to complete the restoration.
But do they know that? biggrin

robbocop33

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1,184 posts

107 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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In fact I'm surprised it's acceptable you can buy a new item and have to accept that it's covered in scratches?

bimsb6

8,040 posts

221 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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robbocop33 said:
In fact I'm surprised it's acceptable you can buy a new item and have to accept that it's covered in scratches?
You don’t have to accept it .

ging84

8,897 posts

146 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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robbocop33 said:
In fact I'm surprised it's acceptable you can buy a new item and have to accept that it's covered in scratches?
You don't you can reject it

Wobbegong

15,077 posts

169 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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Would it need respraying anyway to have matching paintwork?

wraggy

160 posts

205 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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williredale said:
robbocop33 said:
I 'do' have to buy it, as I said it's the only one in the world! 'and' coincidentally it's the last part I need to complete the restoration.
But do they know that? biggrin
They do if they're reading this.

Gary C

12,431 posts

179 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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What a snowflake.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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robbocop33 said:
OK, situation is I'm restoring a motorcycle, panel I needed is rare, as in one known of in world.
After being let down by one company who couldn't get the part, I had to pay another company who had it 20 percent more than the dealer's (Kawasaki) price!
An hour goes by and I get email saying item isn't in perfect condition?? And included were three photos of scratched areas, one part white looking mark on the black paint and lots of fine scratches behind this like it had been rubbed with a coarse item for an inch or two.
So I replied responding to their question, did I still want it? Well yes I said, but is their any chance of a discount due to the damage?
Do I have a 'right' to a discount or can they do what they want due to the rarity of the item?
Assuming this really IS the "only one in the world", then the "dealer price" is pretty academic, since they can't get you one either.

The person who's selling it could ask £4m for it, if they wanted, with a big turd balanced on top and "YOU UTTER MUG" crudely scratched in to the finish above an illustration of a splurting cock and balls.

Your choice is exactly the same - buy it or don't buy it. They're waiting for your reply.

Mandat

3,886 posts

238 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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robbocop33 said:
In fact I'm surprised it's acceptable you can buy a new item and have to accept that it's covered in scratches?
What planet are you on OP?

There is nothing that is forcing you to accept the item which is covered in scratches. What makes you think that there is?

robbocop33

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1,184 posts

107 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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williredale said:
But do they know that? biggrin
Well they do know the part isn't available from the dealer anymore, so they've priced it at a premium.
And as I've told them before, if it wasn't for someone as stupid as me that part would still be on their shelf long after their business ceases to exist!

gobuddygo

1,384 posts

185 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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TooMany2cvs said:
robbocop33 said:
OK, situation is I'm restoring a motorcycle, panel I needed is rare, as in one known of in world.
After being let down by one company who couldn't get the part, I had to pay another company who had it 20 percent more than the dealer's (Kawasaki) price!
An hour goes by and I get email saying item isn't in perfect condition?? And included were three photos of scratched areas, one part white looking mark on the black paint and lots of fine scratches behind this like it had been rubbed with a coarse item for an inch or two.
So I replied responding to their question, did I still want it? Well yes I said, but is their any chance of a discount due to the damage?
Do I have a 'right' to a discount or can they do what they want due to the rarity of the item?
Assuming this really IS the "only one in the world", then the "dealer price" is pretty academic, since they can't get you one either.

The person who's selling it could ask £4m for it, if they wanted, with a big turd balanced on top and "YOU UTTER MUG" crudely scratched in to the finish above an illustration of a splurting cock and balls.

Your choice is exactly the same - buy it or don't buy it. They're waiting for your reply.
Ha ha best reply I've seen for ages and factual 😁

robbocop33

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1,184 posts

107 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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Pica-Pica said:
They have a right to offer to sell at their price, you have the right to make an offer to buy at a different price. That is business and contracts. Until you both agree there is no sale. There may be loads of other buyers, there may be none. That is supply and demand.
Well I've tried that before but all I got was nah nah nah nah nah! It's the only one anywhere so suck it up and stump up the cash, I 'know' nobody else will buy it, let's face it, they've already had it for 24 years!

robbocop33

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Monday 16th October 2017
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Mandat said:
What planet are you on OP?

There is nothing that is forcing you to accept the item which is covered in scratches. What makes you think that there is?
I'll say it again, "it is the only one available anywhere" there's where the forcing comes into play, they've got me over a barrel and they know it.
And eh? , this planet, same one you're on.

robbocop33

Original Poster:

1,184 posts

107 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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gobuddygo said:
TooMany2cvs said:
robbocop33 said:
OK, situation is I'm restoring a motorcycle, panel I needed is rare, as in one known of in world.
After being let down by one company who couldn't get the part, I had to pay another company who had it 20 percent more than the dealer's (Kawasaki) price!
An hour goes by and I get email saying item isn't in perfect condition?? And included were three photos of scratched areas, one part white looking mark on the black paint and lots of fine scratches behind this like it had been rubbed with a coarse item for an inch or two.
So I replied responding to their question, did I still want it? Well yes I said, but is their any chance of a discount due to the damage?
Do I have a 'right' to a discount or can they do what they want due to the rarity of the item?
Assuming this really IS the "only one in the world", then the "dealer price" is pretty academic, since they can't get you one either.

The person who's selling it could ask £4m for it, if they wanted, with a big turd balanced on top and "YOU UTTER MUG" crudely scratched in to the finish above an illustration of a splurting cock and balls.

Your choice is exactly the same - buy it or don't buy it. They're waiting for your reply.
Ha ha best reply I've seen for ages and factual ??
Easily amused are we?

Mandat

3,886 posts

238 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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robbocop33 said:
Well I've tried that before but all I got was nah nah nah nah nah! It's the only one anywhere so suck it up and stump up the cash, I 'know' nobody else will buy it, let's face it, they've already had it for 24 years!
A 20% premium over dealer price seems a very small price to pay for what is, as you claim, the last remaining example of this part in the whole world.

If it really was so unique, I would imagine that it would command a price in multiples of RRP.

At the end of the day, it comes down to how desparate you are to buy this part, compared with how desperate the seller is to sell it after having it sitting on their shelf for 24 years.