caught 124 mph in a 50 advice?

[LordHaveMurci]

Sa Calobra said:

Would you abstain from sex for years?

You're not married are you?

[vsonix]

Tuvra said:

Conscript said:

"Entrapment." lol.
Grow up.

Thats not as daft as it sounds, South Wales Police used to have an unmarked Focus ST that used to regularly goad people into "races" before turning on the blues and two's. I had a heads up about him early on but he tried it 3 or 4 times with me when I had my MK2 RS. My friend in an R32 took the bait hook line and sinker, blues and twos came on at 100mph on the M4.

Original example was a bit extreme I must admit though

Not particularly recently - about 5 or 6 years ago - every almost single time (once every few months) I took the A303, I would get 'baited' by unmarked Octavia VRSs between Andover/Stonehenge end and the M3 junction, usually in a tailgatey kind of way, and only ever assiduously keeping to the limit - or at the very least, happily within 10%+2 over it. Thing is, I really don't go for the whole 'street racing' thing - I like to make progress but if someone is trying to encourage me to 'play around' I do not go for it and will just keep left, keep to the limit and let them go. So it makes it all the more obvious when the 'goading' is from a suspicious vehicle.

Edited by vsonix on Saturday 21st October 18:42

[Sa Calobra]

LordHaveMurci said:

Sa Calobra said:

Would you abstain from sex for years?

You're not married are you?

I've heard from other married friends that sex stops when you have a second child.

We stopped at one.

[vsonix]

MethylatedSpirit said:

Knockhill racing circuit is only 60 minutes from where you were caught. In future, book a track day and go as fast as you want.

10 minutes, if you ride as fast as the OP...

[anonymous-user]

Dr Tad Winslow said:

To be fair, 50mph is ridiculously slow along this road. Pretty much every car will be doing 70-80mph along there.

D

There you go OP, that's your defence!!

[Eddieslofart]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

48 said:

hi guys recently got caught over taking a police car at 124 mph

thought id get points and a big fine

Anyone doing 124 in a 50 is probably too stupid to have a licence. Anyone who thinks you'd just get points plus a fine for that is definitely too stupid to have a licence.

This. But i suspect a regular has set up an account for a bit of trolling.

[scoobygaz1]

vsonix said:

Tuvra said:

Conscript said:

"Entrapment." lol.
Grow up.

Thats not as daft as it sounds, South Wales Police used to have an unmarked Focus ST that used to regularly goad people into "races" before turning on the blues and two's. I had a heads up about him early on but he tried it 3 or 4 times with me when I had my MK2 RS. My friend in an R32 took the bait hook line and sinker, blues and twos came on at 100mph on the M4.

Original example was a bit extreme I must admit though

Not particularly recently - about 5 or 6 years ago - every almost single time (once every few months) I took the A303, I would get 'baited' by unmarked Octavia VRSs between Andover/Stonehenge end and the M3 junction, usually in a tailgatey kind of way, and only ever assiduously keeping to the limit - or at the very least, happily within 10%+2 over it. Thing is, I really don't go for the whole 'street racing' thing - I like to make progress but if someone is trying to encourage me to 'play around' I do not go for it and will just keep left, keep to the limit and let them go. So it makes it all the more obvious when the 'goading' is from a suspicious vehicle.

Edited by vsonix on Saturday 21st October 18:42

a few years ago I was coming home on the a361 and a golf r32 came up behind me and pushed me right up my arse i was doing 65 on a dual carriageway he pushed me for a mile or so! I recognised the car as I had seen it 2 weeks earlier on junction 28 Cullompton slip road it pulled over a mini, the golf was plain grey. I was in a scooby an easy target!

[VAGLover]

48 said:

hi guys recently got caught over taking a police car at 124 mph- was in all the papers as the bill were just ready to start a campaign about speeding
anyway pleaded guilty by letter-didn't have any points so thought id get points and a big fine
nop the magistrate wishes for my personal apperrance feck
it was a fully marked police car they have the chase on dvd they only got my at 124 cos there big ass Volvo takes ages to get to high speed
what sort of ban am I looking at or are they gonna make an example of me
lost interest in the bike now cos I loved going out for a good blast in the evenings

my mate got caught on the same road farther up
there was a zzr 1400 behind him he thought he wanted a wee race yea he raced him till he got to 154mph and put a blue light on!
entrapment
your views will be most appretiated

Don’t bend over in the showers, you are going to prison

[Red Devil]

WJNB said:

Now what would be REALLY interesting was IF the OP story is true & he gets a jail sentence that he shares that experience with us. Perhaps the horrors he endures would act as a deterrent.

It won't be anything new. Just a Scots version of 10PS's diary.

[lee_fr200]

I'd say jail time tbh

[Vipers]

Sa Calobra said:

LordHaveMurci said:

Sa Calobra said:

Would you abstain from sex for years?

You're not married are you?

I've heard from other married friends that sex stops when you have a second child.

We stopped at one.

For some it never stops

[anonymous-user]

48 said:

...

my mate got caught on the same road farther up
there was a zzr 1400 behind him he thought he wanted a wee race yea he raced him till he got to 154mph and put a blue light on!
entrapment
your views will be most appretiated

Assuming that any of this happened, there is no defence of entrapment in English law. I would be surprised if the position in Scots law were different. The best that a defendant can hope for is a finding that prosecution would be an abuse of process because of unfair action by the state. This finding results in a stay of the proceedings (in Scotland that might be called a sist).

An abuse of process argument would get nowhere in a case of "I thought another biker wanted a race". Indeed, running that line would make the position worse.

[s2kjock]

Is it really "poor obs" not to be identifying a marked car in those circumstances?

Doing those speeds ( I imagine .....) one's mind would be far more focused on a whole load of other hazards likely to cause you much more pain than a tub of Nivea could alleviate.

[SantaBarbara]

Breadvan72 said:

Assuming that any of this happened, there is no defence of entrapment in English law. I would be surprised if the position in Scots law were different. The best that a defendant can hope for is a finding that prosecution would be an abuse of process because of unfair action by the state. This finding results in a stay of the proceedings (in Scotland that might be called a sist).

An abuse of process argument would get nowhere in a case of "I thought another biker wanted a race". Indeed, running that line would make the position worse.

Entrapment maybe not. But Agent Provocateur yes

[matchmaker]

codenamecueball said:

Why would the magistrate want to see him when we don't have them in Scotland?

I know. First stop Edinburgh Sheriff Court, second stop Saughton Prison.

[anonymous-user]

SantaBarbara said:

Breadvan72 said:

Assuming that any of this happened, there is no defence of entrapment in English law. I would be surprised if the position in Scots law were different. The best that a defendant can hope for is a finding that prosecution would be an abuse of process because of unfair action by the state. This finding results in a stay of the proceedings (in Scotland that might be called a sist).

An abuse of process argument would get nowhere in a case of "I thought another biker wanted a race". Indeed, running that line would make the position worse.

Entrapment maybe not. But Agent Provocateur yes

I prefer Coco de Mer or Bordelle. Again, one biker thinking that another biker wants a race is no answer to a prosecution.

[Caddyshack]

Howitzer said:

Just giving him a little hope

Dave!

Hi Dave, thanks for explaining your experience. Would you happen to have a surname beginning with CR and ending in T?

[matchmaker]

Breadvan72 said:

Assuming that any of this happened, there is no defence of entrapment in English law. I would be surprised if the position in Scots law were different. The best that a defendant can hope for is a finding that prosecution would be an abuse of process because of unfair action by the state. This finding results in a stay of the proceedings (in Scotland that might be called a sist).

An abuse of process argument would get nowhere in a case of "I thought another biker wanted a race". Indeed, running that line would make the position worse.

A sist is in civil proceedings. In criminal proceedings a course of action might be desertion pro loco et tempore.

[matchmaker]

TVR Moneypit said:

MDMA . said:

Wilkos are doing sachets of KY Jelly at the moment. Saves taking the tub into the showers

Reception staff at your local HMP wouldn't let you take that in. They'd be stored in your 'prop' for when you get released.

Don't worry though, you can buy small tubs of Nivea on the canteen for £1.89.

Seriously though, I'd be prepared for the worst. What's the name of your nearest CAT-B local? If you let me know I might be able to tell you what its like?

Good luck.

HMP Saughton,I think.

Anyway - has the OP told us what he was charged with? That makes a great deal of difference.

Edited by matchmaker on Sunday 22 October 17:54

Edited by matchmaker on Sunday 22 October 17:56

[anonymous-user]

matchmaker said:

Breadvan72 said:

Assuming that any of this happened, there is no defence of entrapment in English law. I would be surprised if the position in Scots law were different. The best that a defendant can hope for is a finding that prosecution would be an abuse of process because of unfair action by the state. This finding results in a stay of the proceedings (in Scotland that might be called a sist).

An abuse of process argument would get nowhere in a case of "I thought another biker wanted a race". Indeed, running that line would make the position worse.

A sist is in civil proceedings. In criminal proceedings a course of action might be desertion pro loco et tempore.

Thanks, I assumed that there would be some appropriately recondite appellation.