Removing my front parking sensor this weekend

[Boosted LS1]

Xenon headlights could certainly cause it some issues. Better to keep those lights on and keep the roads safe.

[anonymous-user]

jm doc said:

Well make your mind up, you stated that there is no specific error code associated with jammers, only that you associate an error code with "certain conditions" , so you really haven't a clue have you.

On this subject, in the "have a clue" contest between HantsRat and you, I ain't betting on you.

[anonymous-user]

Breadvan72 said:

Dr Mike Oxgreen said:

Flooble said:

Breadvan72 said:

I must be missing all this war on motorists stuff. I drive about all over the place, quite often faster than the posted limits (not in urban areas). Every few years I get a speeding ticket. Is that a bullet or a medal in this exciting war?

Depends which car you were in ... exceeding the limit in some of them would definitely be worth commemorating

I avoid the issue by driving a TVR.

Officially it does 0-60 in 4.7 seconds, but will either break down or run out of fuel in 4.6 seconds.

V sound policy.

Talk of how quickly a car could get you busted reminds me of the good old days of car advertising. (The ad cites the 0-70 figure, BTW, 0-60 was claimed to be 9.1)

Have you got one of those in your classic collection?

220s plenty said:

HantsRat said:

Every day I drive my car and 'catch' tailgating, middle lane hogging, phone users, dangerous/careless driving. Mondays shift was 4 x mobile phone, 2 x careless/inconsiderate driving (middle lane hogging) and 3 x red light jumping.

From my point of view you've just penalised nine individuals making significant contributions to society for very minor infractions - infractions which, 99.99% of the time are completely inert. You've subjected your employers to significant financial and social implications without due care. Undoubtedly individuals working overly stressful jobs which is why they jumped a red phase by 0.5 seconds.

That equates to performing *grossly* immoral work.

No one cares about your point of view because you're a David Copeland in the making who spends his birthday devoid of friends and family and starts a topic about it on the internet.

That's November's burn out of the way, baby!

[jm doc]

Breadvan72 said:

jm doc said:

Well make your mind up, you stated that there is no specific error code associated with jammers, only that you associate an error code with "certain conditions" , so you really haven't a clue have you.

On this subject, in the "have a clue" contest between HantsRat and you, I ain't betting on you.

Keep up at the back. That comment was a reply to someone else, not HantsRat.

[anonymous-user]

Whatevs, you are still lagging behind in the race for a clue.

[220s plenty]

La Liga said:

220s plenty said:

HantsRat said:

Every day I drive my car and 'catch' tailgating, middle lane hogging, phone users, dangerous/careless driving. Mondays shift was 4 x mobile phone, 2 x careless/inconsiderate driving (middle lane hogging) and 3 x red light jumping.

From my point of view you've just penalised nine individuals making significant contributions to society for very minor infractions - infractions which, 99.99% of the time are completely inert. You've subjected your employers to significant financial and social implications without due care. Undoubtedly individuals working overly stressful jobs which is why they jumped a red phase by 0.5 seconds.

That equates to performing *grossly* immoral work.

No one cares about your point of view because you're a David Copeland in the making who spends his birthday devoid of friends and family and starts a topic about it on the internet.

That's November's burn out of the way, baby!

Crikey I must have really upset you. Almost as if the words ate you from the inside out until you erupted into a splurge of incoherent vitriol on a web forum. Gave me the mental image of a copper sat there at his desk - powerless and red in the face, jaws and arse cheeks clenched bouncing up and down on his chair in a rage like a child throwing a tantrum.

[anonymous-user]

Hey man, I'm just kidding!

I don't want to upset you and your Britain First fiends friends associates when you all rise up!

Can't bounce on chairs. Health and safety. Nanny state.

[jm doc]

swerni said:

jm doc said:

swerni said:

jm doc said:

HantsRat said:

jm doc said:

Yes, really. And massively increasing speed limit enforcement but denying it ("an end to the war on motorists") whilst at the same time imposing huge reductions in speed limits on roads all round the country with no warning or significant consultation. What do you call that then? Perverting the course of justice??

It's certainly a perversion of the concept of law and order, and justice, in the view of many people that I get to meet and talk to.

That's really an argument you need to put across to your MP to lobby in parliament. I'm talking about the law on fitting laser jammers here not speed enforcement or speed limits.

People feel threatened, what do you think some of them are going to do?? It is a problem that is significantly exacerbated by the escalation of the war on motorists, people feel the need to protect themselves from what they see as an abuse of power, and in my experience, sadly they blame the police. PCOJ in the context of speeding has always been highly dubious, and in context of breaking a traffic regulation which has very little bearing on the "justice system" it should never be used. And after all there are many other ways to catch motorists speeding.

How do we feel threatened?
It’s a speed limit, how is that even remotely threatening ?

I understand you don't get it and just accept being told what to do and told that it's in your best interest etc, and never think to question. Lots of other people do get it though and are angry. I include in this lots of elderly people as well as otherwise completely law abiding citizens who I meet and talk to on a daily basis.

You still fail to say why anyone would be “ threatened” by a speed limit.
Maybe I could borrow your tinfoil hat?

You should ask them. It would help if you took your ear plugs out as a starter. And maybe removed your blinkers?

[anonymous-user]

Yeah, wake up, sheeple! The Illuminati Space Lizards are mugging you off!

[Durzel]

The image of people being terrified as soon as they start drifting over the speed limit, struggling to control their own legs as they conspire against them, is quite an amusing one.

[jm doc]

Breadvan72 said:

Yeah, wake up, sheeple! The Illuminati Space Lizards are mugging you off!

So you support the mass reduction of speed limits and the huge increases in enforcement of those new limits, on roads that have always been perfectly safe? You are happy that millions of perfectly safe drivers now have convictions, pay more for insurance and are at significantly increased risk of losing their licences?

And when was I asked to vote on those policies?

[AW111]

Breadvan72 said:

Yeah, wake up, sheeple! The Illuminati Space Lizards are mugging you off!

Google image search for Illuminati Space Lizards :
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=illuminati+spac...

[techmoan]

jm doc said:

So you support the mass reduction of speed limits and the huge increases in enforcement of those new limits, on roads that have always been perfectly safe? You are happy that millions of perfectly safe drivers now have convictions, pay more for insurance and are at significantly increased risk of losing their licences?

And when was I asked to vote on those policies?

Oh give up will you.

I drive 40k a year. I would say 90% of the locations I see mobile camera vans are in 30mph villages where I can see speeding can be a problem. Yes you sometimes get them on motorways and A roads but the majority of time they are in these villages.

They even give you 10% +2mph or leeway. Everyone knows the speed limit of the motorway so if you do get caught, you really only have yourself to blame.

Where I live they changed one of the roads from a 40mph down to a 30mph. They consulted with all residents on the road and was voted in favour by about 95%. You may not get invited to speed limit change consultations because it doesn't happen on the road you live in.

[anonymous-user]

In a world filled with injustices I find it hard to get too worked up about the inability of Mr Righteous Motorist to drive as fast as he wants. Anyway, as Mr Unrighteous Motorist I often do drive as fast as I want, only not in towns and villages, and if I get caught speeding on a motorway or country road I don't bang on about it.

[RedBox]

jm doc said:

Breadvan72 said:

Yeah, wake up, sheeple! The Illuminati Space Lizards are mugging you off!

So you support the mass reduction of speed limits and the huge increases in enforcement of those new limits, on roads that have always been perfectly safe? You are happy that millions of perfectly safe drivers now have convictions, pay more for insurance and are at significantly increased risk of losing their licences?

And when was I asked to vote on those policies?

Drivers with convictions went faster than they were legally allowed to do and which they knew before they did it. Hopefully they will now be participating in a safer environment that when they were ‘safely’ speeding about.

If you are over the age of 18 years then you were given the opportunity to vote on these policies when the rest of us adults were. Once every five years or less than that if the PM feels like it’s a good time to do so before the 5 years. After the election only the 650 or so we elect get to make and vote on policies, I don’t suppose they thought for one minute to ask you unless you are an MP of course.

[TooMany2cvs]

jm doc said:

And when was I asked to vote on those policies?

You are asked to vote for the people who decide and elect those policies regularly.

As for reducing speed limits - the limit through our village is NSL. There was recently a very nasty single-vehicle incident, entirely down to excessive speed for the conditiions yet within the limit, and close to being a fatality - it may yet still be. It's far from the first there, and there have been calls to reduce the limit to 30, perhaps even 20, at the bends in question. It simply won't, and quite probably can't, happen. The entire road through the village will continue to be NSL.

Edited by TooMany2cvs on Friday 10th November 13:24

[TooMany2cvs]

RedBox said:

If you are over the age of 18 years then you were given the opportunity to vote on these policies when the rest of us adults were. Once every five years or less than that if the PM feels like it’s a good time to do so before the 5 years. After the election only the 650 or so we elect get to make and vote on policies, I don’t suppose they thought for one minute to ask you unless you are an MP of course.

Most of the decisions are local authority. I assume that jm doc bothers to vote at his local elections?

[jm doc]

RedBox said:

jm doc said:

Breadvan72 said:

Yeah, wake up, sheeple! The Illuminati Space Lizards are mugging you off!

So you support the mass reduction of speed limits and the huge increases in enforcement of those new limits, on roads that have always been perfectly safe? You are happy that millions of perfectly safe drivers now have convictions, pay more for insurance and are at significantly increased risk of losing their licences?

And when was I asked to vote on those policies?

Drivers with convictions went faster than they were legally allowed to do and which they knew before they did it. Hopefully they will now be participating in a safer environment that when they were ‘safely’ speeding about.

If you are over the age of 18 years then you were given the opportunity to vote on these policies when the rest of us adults were. Once every five years or less than that if the PM feels like it’s a good time to do so before the 5 years. After the election only the 650 or so we elect get to make and vote on policies, I don’t suppose they thought for one minute to ask you unless you are an MP of course.

Who told you that? The people who collect the money from you and the people who make money from implementing the policy....
And should such a drastic policy really be based on the idea that "hopefully" (your words) it will do something?

Let's lock up all those involved in the speed scam industry. Hopefully that might actually do something to improve our roads.

[TooMany2cvs]

jm doc said:

RedBox said:

Drivers with convictions went faster than they were legally allowed to do and which they knew before they did it. Hopefully they will now be participating in a safer environment that when they were ‘safely’ speeding about.

If you are over the age of 18 years then you were given the opportunity to vote on these policies when the rest of us adults were. Once every five years or less than that if the PM feels like it’s a good time to do so before the 5 years. After the election only the 650 or so we elect get to make and vote on policies, I don’t suppose they thought for one minute to ask you unless you are an MP of course.

Who told you that? The people who collect the money from you and the people who make money from implementing the policy....
And should such a drastic policy really be based on the idea that "hopefully" (your words) it will do something?

Let's lock up all those involved in the speed scam industry. Hopefully that might actually do something to improve our roads.

Are you seriously trying to claim that roads would be safer if there was zero enforcement of speed limits, or even no limits...?

[jm doc]

TooMany2cvs said:

jm doc said:

RedBox said:

Drivers with convictions went faster than they were legally allowed to do and which they knew before they did it. Hopefully they will now be participating in a safer environment that when they were ‘safely’ speeding about.

If you are over the age of 18 years then you were given the opportunity to vote on these policies when the rest of us adults were. Once every five years or less than that if the PM feels like it’s a good time to do so before the 5 years. After the election only the 650 or so we elect get to make and vote on policies, I don’t suppose they thought for one minute to ask you unless you are an MP of course.

Who told you that? The people who collect the money from you and the people who make money from implementing the policy....
And should such a drastic policy really be based on the idea that "hopefully" (your words) it will do something?

Let's lock up all those involved in the speed scam industry. Hopefully that might actually do something to improve our roads.

Are you seriously trying to claim that roads would be safer if there was zero enforcement of speed limits, or even no limits...?

Strawman. That's never been suggested.

Locally, virtually every NSL A and B road have had this removed and the limit significantly reduced. There was no consultation, there was no election manifesto, it just happened. There is no evidence that this will improve safety in any significant way. These roads are now regularly subjected to speed camera vans when previously there were none. No fall in accident stats noted. Just ordinary, safe drivers by and large, going about their daily lives with more points and less money.

You (and other sheeple/trolls posting here) clearly love this, especially when you have to "bend over and take it like a man" as has been posted many times on here.

Personally, doesn't suit me. But hey, there you go.