Tractor pushes parked cars out of the way

[bobtail4x4]

but quick at unloading them?

[Efbe]

JimSuperSix said:

Never you mind said:

TooMany2cvs said:

JimSuperSix said:

TooMany2cvs said:

JimSuperSix said:

or there was a "proper" traffic jam?

You've never been out of the city, have you?

Actually I live in the country, full of tractors no less

Proper country? Or suburbia-with-the-odd-tractor?

Recently moved and still to learn countryside ways ?

Yeah that special countryside talent of not driving a motor vehicle into a space too small for it

goddamn I wish they would learn that trick around our way. Tight and twisty roads with stone walls on each side and few passing places. People still go for massive 4x4s that you can never pass

Mind you, moving from West Yorkshire to Perthshire next week and I hear it's worse

[psi310398]

Efbe said:

Mind you, moving from West Yorkshire to Perthshire next week and I hear it's worse

Not for the number of Yorkshiremen, it's not!

[ultraweasel]

Erm,

"TooMany2cvs" said:

"Farm machinery is no wider than bin wagons or fire engines or other vehicles that are well within the frame of reference of urbanites."

Are you for real?

Have you seen the size of some of the modern agricultural vehicles that have to move between sites? (Fields, for those hard of thinking).

Your 'Urbanites' have no idea...

tracked combines - can easily be 1.5+ lanes wide on 'B' roads.

Tractors can be 1 lane+ wide, quite easily.

For all those PH'rs that like to "press on", on a weekend 'Hoon' in the countryside - just be aware that right around the next sweeping bend maybe a 20 ton plus piece of agricultural vehicle, doing something like 20 mph tops...

I'm sure (hope!) you don't need to be told this! Sadly, where I live, the message does not seem to have got through. Too many deaths.

Ultraweasel

[gazza285]

ultraweasel said:

Erm,

"TooMany2cvs" said:

"Farm machinery is no wider than bin wagons or fire engines or other vehicles that are well within the frame of reference of urbanites."

Are you for real?

Have you seen the size of some of the modern agricultural vehicles that have to move between sites? (Fields, for those hard of thinking).

Your 'Urbanites' have no idea...

tracked combines - can easily be 1.5+ lanes wide on 'B' roads.

Tractors can be 1 lane+ wide, quite easily.

For all those PH'rs that like to "press on", on a weekend 'Hoon' in the countryside - just be aware that right around the next sweeping bend maybe a 20 ton plus piece of agricultural vehicle, doing something like 20 mph tops...

I'm sure (hope!) you don't need to be told this! Sadly, where I live, the message does not seem to have got through. Too many deaths.

Ultraweasel

How big a combine do you think a Cumbrian hill farmer requires?

[Buster73]

JimSuperSix said:

Did he ask anyone around if they owned the offending vehicles? In fact, did he do anything to avoid "having" to damage the cars?

Edited by JimSuperSix on Thursday 23 November 14:57

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Did he ask who exactly ?

They were all up a mountain over 2000 ft high for a remembrance service . Hardly within shouting distance never mind close enough to ask anyone.

My experience of inconsiderate parking in the Lake District is one where the offender is normally away most of the day up in the hills.

Never read anything so daft on here for ages.

[anonymous-user]

Buster73 said:

JimSuperSix said:

Did he ask anyone around if they owned the offending vehicles? In fact, did he do anything to avoid "having" to damage the cars?

Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 23 November 14:57

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Did he ask who exactly ?

They were all up a mountain over 2000 ft high for a remembrance service . Hardly within shouting distance never mind close enough to ask anyone.

My experience of inconsiderate parking in the Lake District is one where the offender is normally away most of the day up in the hills.

Never read anything so daft on here for ages.

You also apparently didn't read the news reports - there were people around as one even left a note on one of the vehicles he damaged.

Oh look - "shocked witnesses" .... ie people in case you can't work that out.
http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/Shocked-witnesse...

[mcdjl]

JimSuperSix said:

You also apparently didn't read the news reports - there were people around as one even left a note on one of the vehicles he damaged.

Oh look - "shocked witnesses" .... ie people in case you can't work that out.
http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/Shocked-witnesse...

Does that day he didn't ask?
It does imply that the owner wasn't there otherwise they might have moved their car.... Unless they really were desperate for fame.

[anonymous-user]

mcdjl said:

JimSuperSix said:

You also apparently didn't read the news reports - there were people around as one even left a note on one of the vehicles he damaged.

Oh look - "shocked witnesses" .... ie people in case you can't work that out.
http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/Shocked-witnesse...

Does that day he didn't ask?
It does imply that the owner wasn't there otherwise they might have moved their car.... Unless they really were desperate for fame.

It does imply he didn't ask - the first witness statement said that he drove up , paused for a second, then crashed through the cars. No witness mentions the farmer saying anything, speaking to anyone etc..., funny that isn't it.
There's no way to tell if the owner of any of the damaged cars was present, but that doesn't really matter - the articles suggest that he didn't even try to find out, just smashed through, left no contact details, then ran off into his farm to hide. Not really actions to applaud.

[Byker28i]

JimSuperSix said:

... then ran off into his farm to hide. Not really actions to applaud.

Did he also sit there smirking, whilst stroking a white cat?

[anonymous-user]

Byker28i said:

JimSuperSix said:

... then ran off into his farm to hide. Not really actions to applaud.

Did he also sit there smirking, whilst stroking a white cat?

I bet there was some smirking , but it was probably a sheep

[Mr2Mike]

JimSuperSix said:

Actually I live in the country, full of tractors no less

Do you regularly abandon your car on tiny lanes, blocking the passage of those tractors?

[Mr2Mike]

speedking31 said:

or the sake of debate (uh-oh), what if the cars had been parked slightly less considerately such that if the tractor tried to go through he would get jammed in between them, and that was obvious to the farmer. What would he do then?

The correct answer is "get a bigger tractor".

[popeyewhite]

JimSuperSix said:

the first witness statement said that he drove up , paused for a second, then crashed through the cars.

No, this is what was said:

"He couldn't get through the gap and couldn't turn around. So... he just went through damaging at least four cars, yours coming off worst."

You probably don't recognise that quote, because you've convinced yourself an entirely different scenario occurred. However that's what was said.

Incidentally I was on a climbing forum the other day and apparently the NT has also laid boulders down to control parking, in recognition of the sometimes inconsiderate parking blocking farms in the area. The car park, which has NT approval but is owned but the farmer, is not ticketed, is supposed to be £3, and works via an honesty box. That's right - people would rather park inconsiderately than pay £3, and that's assuming their honesty, which, given most cars were there for a Remembrance Sunday event, you'd think would be guaranteed... .

The farmer still hasn't been charged with anything.

[johnwilliams77]

Good
They deserve what they got

[anonymous-user]

popeyewhite said:

JimSuperSix said:

the first witness statement said that he drove up , paused for a second, then crashed through the cars.

No, this is what was said:

"He couldn't get through the gap and couldn't turn around. So... he just went through damaging at least four cars, yours coming off worst."

You probably don't recognise that quote, because you've convinced yourself an entirely different scenario occurred. However that's what was said.

Incidentally I was on a climbing forum the other day and apparently the NT has also laid boulders down to control parking, in recognition of the sometimes inconsiderate parking blocking farms in the area. The car park, which has NT approval but is owned but the farmer, is not ticketed, is supposed to be £3, and works via an honesty box. That's right - people would rather park inconsiderately than pay £3, and that's assuming their honesty, which, given most cars were there for a Remembrance Sunday event, you'd think would be guaranteed... .

The farmer still hasn't been charged with anything.

Your quote is the exact same meaning, just using different words

[CoolHands]

Hardly. You said paused, the statement did not.

[Buster73]

JimSuperSix said:

You also apparently didn't read the news reports - there were people around as one even left a note on one of the vehicles he damaged.

Oh look - "shocked witnesses" .... ie people in case you can't work that out.
http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/Shocked-witnesse...

So he left a note after he damaged the cars , so can we assume the owners of the cars parked were not there to be asked then ?

Not even the most inconsiderate driver would refuse to move their car after either being asked or run the risk of it getting damaged .

Two wrongs don't make a right , bad parking or not the tractor driver should have switched off and gone back to the farm to calm down.

If he clearly didn't think that then , I'm sure he'll be thinking now that would have been the best course of action.


I've been the " victim " of inconsiderate parking in Newlands Valley which is only a kick in the pants away on more than one occasion recently , nothing I could do till they came back off the fells then I gave them a piece of my mind , I could have forced my way past and damaged both mine and their car , it didn't cross my mind to do so.

[Crackie]

JimSuperSix said:

You also apparently didn't read the news reports

the first witness statement said that he drove up , paused for a second, then crashed through the cars. the articles suggest that he didn't even try to find out, just smashed through, left no contact details, then ran off into his farm to hide.

Your first comment implies you have read the news reports doesn't it Jim. However the witness statement did not say what you claim at all. "Pausing for a second" and "crashing through" are just inventions of yours. You think the witness statements in the article suggest smashing through or running off to hide but again these are just further examples of fabricated nonsense. ( or trolling ).

The witness said "The big tractor carrying a huge sheep trailer left the farm at the end of the road. I then saw him stop along the road."

and

"He couldn't get through the gap and couldn't turn around. So... he just went through damaging at least four cars, yours coming off worst."

[TooMany2cvs]

Crackie said:

"...yours coming off worst."

This is a quote from the note left for the BMW driver. From the very fact a note was left, we don't even need to ask whether they were around or not.

We also know that the majority of people parked there were attending the service several hours walk away. The cars were damaged between 9am and noon, and the service was due to start at 11am. We don't need much guesswork to assume that they would be away for a substantial period of time.