Stopping the thieving scum

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CAPP0

19,582 posts

203 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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Mandalore said:
Weld the bolts on.
Then sheaf the pipes either side with some think stainless.to blunt their hacksaw.
Not convinced that's going to put up much of a fight to the cordless angle grinders the OP mentioned.

Crumpet

3,894 posts

180 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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Could you park each van over a ‘bed’ of razor/barbed wire? Basically a single mattress sized wad of coiled and rolled-up wire that’s securely fixed to the ground. End of the day the van carefully parks over the top of it (being careful not to run the tyres over it).

strain

419 posts

101 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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A guy got his sprinter done outside his house (countryside, 5 houses, fields opposite)

Cheeky bds come back 2 weeks later and took the brand new one too!

steveo3002

10,525 posts

174 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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how did they get into the yard ? if they went over the fence then some barbed wire etc

Derek Smith

45,659 posts

248 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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Regarding the trout farm I mentioned earlier:

One call to the trout farm was the owner and a colleague chasing suspects. One officer found blood at the scene by what, on first glance, appeared to be a bridge over a substantial concrete gully. The odd thing about the bridge, little more than two scaffold boards screwed together on top of each other, was that one side was raised considerably, meaning the 'bridge' was at an angle of about 45°. Anyone running, or even walking, across it might slip into the gully and hurt themselves, especially if there was heavy dew. They might even bleed a lot from any injury.

The officer attending pointed out that police officers might chase offenders or run across the bridge (in the unlikely event they got there in time it has to be admitted) and that any injury they suffered might be deemed criminal. So careful of razor blades and such.


f1ten

2,161 posts

153 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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Build a long speed bump in your yard which in the centre of it is high enough so as to remove any chance of being able to get the cat off and out. I.e. As others have suggested it stops someone sliding under the van as there would be no room.

steveo3002

10,525 posts

174 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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f1ten said:
Build a long speed bump in your yard which in the centre of it is high enough so as to remove any chance of being able to get the cat off and out. I.e. As others have suggested it stops someone sliding under the van as there would be no room.
imagine they would smash the window to let the brake off and push it backwards

f1ten

2,161 posts

153 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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Then clamp the cars in addition

Biker 1

7,729 posts

119 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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Who are the wkers that handle this stuff & manage to shift it on?

loose cannon

6,030 posts

241 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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Sometimes there is the smell of burning cats on the a331 at night just as you pass holy bush area late at night whistle

CoolC

4,216 posts

214 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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Can you build a low concrete wall between where each van parks?

Low enough that the doors can still be opened, but high enough that the scrotes can't get under the vans.

steveo3002

10,525 posts

174 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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i think once theyre in the yard if they find some method that stops them stealing the cat then they will most likley cause damage to something just because

need to stop them getting in so easily

RizzoTheRat

25,162 posts

192 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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The sleepers or long speed hump idea coupled with a parking post or barrier to stop them moving the van is probably going to be your best passive defence, but if they're using grinders to cut the cats off it would need to be a massive bollard to stop them just cutting that off too,. Alarms and lights are only worth if anyone's going to show up, otherwise they'll test it one night and if nobody shows up just come back another night and nick them.



peterperkins said:
1) You could wire up a non lethal cattle electric fence energisers to the vans.
The tyres will insulate if from the ground and should give them a belt causing them to smash their head into the underside of the vehicle. Might recover some dna later.
Powered from the vans own battery and fitted inside to prevent it being deactivated.
Hidden magnetic switch for driver to disable with an external magnet in sweet spot before he gets in.They may wear gloves but should still get a belt if damp.
You'd need to have the van earthed somehow for that to work, so someone could easily just remove the earthing spike.

NorthernSky

983 posts

117 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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Rail sleepers are a good idea to stop them getting underneath, but could they be a pain to move when you need to access your vans for work? On the plus side, these sleepers are often reused to create 'artisan' furniture, so they might actually repay on your initial outlay to get hold of some.

Other ideas:

> Alsatian dog, or a dog kennel and signage around your yard indicating there is a dog.

> Wire up some speakers to imitate dog barking whenever one of your cameras detects movement.

> Landmines placed strategically around vans? wink

Good luck.

_dobbo_

14,378 posts

248 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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NorthernSky said:
Rail sleepers are a good idea to stop them getting underneath, but could they be a pain to move when you need to access your vans for work?
Good luck.
I think the idea is you park on top of the sleepers to prevent access - i.e. the clearance under the van allows you to drive over the sleepers.

Thus - no need to move them just plonk them down bolt them together and done.

OP, would it be cheaper/easier to just cement some breeze blocks to the floor instead of sleepers?


oakdale

1,801 posts

202 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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_dobbo_ said:
I think the idea is you park on top of the sleepers to prevent access - i.e. the clearance under the van allows you to drive over the sleepers.

Thus - no need to move them just plonk them down bolt them together and done.

OP, would it be cheaper/easier to just cement some breeze blocks to the floor instead of sleepers?
Or put some shuttering down and fill with a weak mix of concrete.

BoRED S2upid

19,700 posts

240 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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johnwilliams77 said:
Can you put barbed wire on the fencing?
Electrocuted barbed wire and dogs.

CaptainSensib1e

1,434 posts

221 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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How much is a used catalytic converter off a van worth? Didn't think they would be worth much to anyone.

ElectricPics

761 posts

81 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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Derek Smith said:
There's a saying in the security industry: a fence only keeps out those who don't really want to get in. In other words, passive protection only deters the amateurs, which would probably cover the two you scared off.
In the same way that locks only keep honest people out...

theguvernor15

944 posts

103 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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Build a 'bay' out of bricks, so for instance, 3 walls, a couple of inches below door height.
Then build some form of massive hinged wall out of sleepers, or gate in front, with some massively thick steel they cant cut.
Or something that raises out of the ground in front of them (if you could afford it).