Extension above garage - new bedroom planning

[clarkey]

PH Experts,

I would like you advice on our current project. We are building a new room above a double garage - it will have internal dimensions of 5.25m by 4.6m. I want to fit a bedroom, en-suite and dressing room into this space.
My current plans are in the picture - 2 rows of 2m long ikea fitted wardrobes, with a metre between them, going into a en-suite with plenty of room for bog, shower and sink. The window in the en-suite is 800x400 and 1700mm off the ground. windows in the bedroom are 1200x1200.

I think this leaves me with a bedroom roughly 3m by 4.6m. Although this is fine, leaving about 0.7m down each side of the bed, it is a bit narrower than you'd choose. I need to decide internal walls and electrics in the next week, so have to make decisions!

Would anyone plan the space differently? We'll only have a bed, two bedside tables and a chest of drawers in the actual bedroom.

Thanks for your help, can't seem to make any decisions!!!!

[Equus]

Turn the bed through 90 degrees, so that the foot of the bed is toward the windows?

[B17NNS]

That corridor in the bedroom is a bit of a waste of space and the dressing room isn't really big enough to get dressed in so again essentially just another corridor.

I'd favour two spacious rooms (en-suite and bedroom/dressing room combined) over three compromised rooms.

[herewego]

Cancel the pointless dressing room and put wardrobes across where the head of the bed is. Put bed on opposite wall.

[singlecoil]

I would position the head of the bed and the toilet diagonally opposite each other, so that what one person is doing in the latter isn't quite so audible to the person in the former.

[clarkey]

B17NNS said:

That corridor in the bedroom is a bit of a waste of space and the dressing room isn't really big enough to get dressed in so again essentially just another corridor.

I'd favour two spacious rooms (en-suite and bedroom/dressing room combined) over three compromised rooms.

This is my concern. This is plan B that I hadn't attached

[clarkey]

herewego said:

Cancel the pointless dressing room and put wardrobes across where the head of the bed is. Put bed on opposite wall.

That could be the best plan

[mikeiow]

I quite like the first one, but as said above have the foot of the bed facing the windows.
I'd also lose the door on the dressing room to make it more open and less fussy.

[B17NNS]

clarkey said:

Better. Pocket door to the en-suite will make it feel bigger.

[clarkey]

Thanks for your help. I think I am there. Make room for 3.5m of wardrobes, and I have space to make the en-suite a bit longer if I want to. Pocket door makes sense too.

[Equus]

How wide is the en suite? That door position doesn't look very viable.

[kambites]

We have a similar sized en-suite in our extension and it ended up being better from a packaging point of view to have the pocket-door in the middle of the long wall of the en-suite, with the shower at one end, the sink at the other.

Ours was complicated slightly by a sloped ceiling which limited the size and shape of the shower cubical.

Edited by kambites on Friday 24th November 21:39

[singlecoil]

Equus said:

How wide is the en suite? That door position doesn't look very viable.

This is what the dimensions given amount to, assuming 130mm for the stud wall

[kambites]

I think three meters of wardrobes and a 150ish wide en-suite would work better. <1m is pushing it. Although that would make the gap between the bed and the corner of the en-suite rather tight.

It's a shame the windows are in the longer wall, because for me that's the natural place to put the head of the bed.

ETA: Our en-suite is about 1.5m by 2.5m and feels a comfortable size. It could be 20-30cm shorter without feeling too cramped, but not much narrower.

Edited by kambites on Friday 24th November 21:54

[Equus]

singlecoil said:

Equus said:

How wide is the en suite? That door position doesn't look very viable.

This is what the dimensions given amount to, assuming 130mm for the stud wall

Quite.

And if I'm reading the OP's latest sketch correctly, he's suggesting that there's a pocket sliding door immediately to the left of the WC cistern?

Width of WC cistern + width of door is not going to fit into 970mm. And that's before you have shimmy sideways between the WC pan and the WHB.

[clarkey]

singlecoil said:

This is what the dimensions given amount to, assuming 130mm for the stud wall

Those dimensions are round the wrong way - it is roughly 5250mm wide, so 3500mm of wardrobe and 120mm of stud leaves a bit over 1600mm wide en-suite, which should be fine? It is 4600mm the other way, so the bed comes around about halfway

[singlecoil]

clarkey said:

Those dimensions are round the wrong way - it is roughly 5250mm wide, so 3500mm of wardrobe and 120mm of stud leaves a bit over 1600mm wide en-suite, which should be fine? It is 4600mm the other way, so the bed comes around about halfway

So more like this then-



I can draw the rest of the stuff in if you provide the dimensions.

[clarkey]

singlecoil said:

So more like this then-



I can draw the rest of the stuff in if you provide the dimensions.

Thanks, my wife will appreciate it!

2x 1200mmx1200mm windows on left wall
1x 800mmx400mm window on back right corner of ensuite high up
1.6mx2.0m ensuite (no idea of layout in there currently)
762mm door bottom right

[singlecoil]

clarkey said:

Thanks, my wife will appreciate it!

2x 1200mmx1200mm windows on left wall
1x 800mmx400mm window on back right corner of ensuite high up
1.6mx2.0m ensuite (no idea of layout in there currently)
762mm door bottom right

There's some info missing from those dimensions, you've given me the size of those apertures but not their position. I've guessed them for the time being, but you'll want to be sure, especially the distance of the bedroom windows from the corners, you won't want the wardrobe partially blocking one of them.





I could send you the Sketchup file if you want, that would enable you to view the model from any angle, but you would need to either download the Sketchup program (free) or the viewer app (£9.99) in order to be able to view it. The viewer app is much easier to use although the full program which runs on PC or Mac is vastly superior if you want to invest the time in learning how to view and edit it.

Edited by singlecoil on Saturday 25th November 06:24

[clarkey]

Sketchup file would be great if you could - clarke2 AT hotmail DOT com

It's actually a bit bigger than I thought - 3.5m of wardrobes would leave space for a 1.75m by 2.00m bathroom. The windows have a gap of 700mm either side, and 1000m in the middle, allowing something for plaster.

Thanks for your help, I really appreciate it. I am tempted to keep the floor open so I can see in the garage though!