Do I have to be stopped to receive a ticket?

Do I have to be stopped to receive a ticket?

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Nullusia

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13 posts

77 months

Monday 25th December 2017
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I never speed usually, but just wondering IF doing 96 on the motorway at night with not much traffic unfortunately due to a family emergency, is there any chance of me getting caught if there were no camera signs at all? Say by an officer noting down the speed and dealing with it later?

Too dark to see or recall any marked or unmarked cars, but I am known for being hecking paranoid but I like to be aware of all avenues.

Edited by Nullusia on Thursday 28th December 01:27

Nigel_O

2,858 posts

218 months

Tuesday 26th December 2017
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So - you’re paranoid, but chose to drive at 96mph?

No, you don’t have to be stopped to receive a ticket - how do you think speed cameras work?


shovelheadrob

1,564 posts

170 months

Tuesday 26th December 2017
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Followed by an admission of guilt on a public forum. ........
New year doesn't look too good for you!

Monkeylegend

26,226 posts

230 months

Tuesday 26th December 2017
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Nullusia said:
I never speed usually, but just wondering if doing 96 on the motorway at night with not much traffic unfortunately due to a family emergency, is there any chance of me getting caught if there were no camera signs at all? Say by an officer noting down the speed and dealing with it later?

Too dark to see or recall any marked or unmarked cars, but I am known for being hecking paranoid but I like to be aware of all avenues.
It's the cameras that get you not the signs. Did you pass any cameras or did you not notice?

TTmonkey

20,911 posts

246 months

Tuesday 26th December 2017
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There doesn't need to be signs that there are cameras.

TTmonkey

20,911 posts

246 months

Tuesday 26th December 2017
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If there were cameras, and they've got you, then you'll get a fine.
Most aren't turned on even when present though.

No, an unmarked car won't report you 'later'.

A camera van however would, but I've never seen one used after dark.... anyone care to comment on this?

Speed trap warning signs are not a legal requirement.

Red 4

10,744 posts

186 months

Tuesday 26th December 2017
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TTmonkey said:
1. No, an unmarked car won't report you 'later'.

2. A camera van however would, but I've never seen one used after dark.... anyone care to comment on this?
1. They can.

2. New generation cameras can operate in low light levels - infra red.
Some forces have them.
Unlikely to be used on deserted motorways - enforcement is more targeted.

TTmonkey

20,911 posts

246 months

Tuesday 26th December 2017
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Red 4 said:
TTmonkey said:
1. No, an unmarked car won't report you 'later'.

2. A camera van however would, but I've never seen one used after dark.... anyone care to comment on this?
1. They can.

2. New generation cameras can operate in low light levels - infra red.
Some forces have them.
Unlikely to be used on deserted motorways - enforcement is more targeted.
I didn't mean that they couldn't. I meant they wouldn't. As in, it doesn't happen because they can't be bothered.

So

26,271 posts

221 months

Tuesday 26th December 2017
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shovelheadrob said:
Followed by an admission of guilt on a public forum. ........
New year doesn't look too good for you!
If he has registered his vehicle using his PH username, someone in enforcement happens across this forum, puts the two together and can be bothered to do anything I think you're right.

There's more chance of aliens landing in his garden though.

shovelheadrob

1,564 posts

170 months

Tuesday 26th December 2017
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So said:
shovelheadrob said:
Followed by an admission of guilt on a public forum. ........
New year doesn't look too good for you!
If he has registered his vehicle using his PH username, someone in enforcement happens across this forum, puts the two together and can be bothered to do anything I think you're right.

There's more chance of aliens landing in his garden though.
It was a joke aimed at his self confessed paranoia.......

Stout99

1,860 posts

115 months

Tuesday 26th December 2017
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Nullusia said:
I never speed usually, but just wondering if doing 96 on the motorway at night with not much traffic unfortunately due to a family emergency, is there any chance of me getting caught if there were no camera signs at all? Say by an officer noting down the speed and dealing with it later?

Too dark to see or recall any marked or unmarked cars, but I am known for being hecking paranoid but I like to be aware of all avenues.
There is a chance yes. The majority of people done for speeding are not stopped.
The chances in your described circumstances are low unless you have happened through a variable speed limit.

cmaguire

3,589 posts

108 months

Tuesday 26th December 2017
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TTmonkey said:
If there were cameras, and they've got you, then you'll get a fine.
Most aren't turned on even when present though.

No, an unmarked car won't report you 'later'.

A camera van however would, but I've never seen one used after dark.... anyone care to comment on this?

Speed trap warning signs are not a legal requirement.
I've never seen a van after hours, but have seen a traffic car 'at it' after dark on the A1M at Peterborough Services. It was dry, I doubt the enthusiasm would extend to dark and wet.

captainaverage

596 posts

86 months

Tuesday 26th December 2017
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Did you do it on Christmas Day? They probably won't be out. hehe

Unless it was the safety superman, he's always out.

Edited by captainaverage on Tuesday 26th December 20:23

Landshark

2,117 posts

180 months

Tuesday 26th December 2017
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TTmonkey said:
If there were cameras, and they've got you, then you'll get a fine.
Most aren't turned on even when present though.

No, an unmarked car won't report you 'later'.

A camera van however would, but I've never seen one used after dark.... anyone care to comment on this?

Speed trap warning signs are not a legal requirement.
Yes, an unmarked car (well the officer/officers in it) can send you a NIP/172 within 14 days.

I’ve seen a camera van out after dark with Infra red light set up, no idea if it works as I was within the 30 limit!!

captainaverage

596 posts

86 months

Wednesday 27th December 2017
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Landshark said:
Yes, an unmarked car (well the officer/officers in it) can send you a NIP/172 within 14 days.

I’ve seen a camera van out after dark with Infra red light set up, no idea if it works as I was within the 30 limit!!
Which county, region, area was this in please?

AutoClouseau

185 posts

206 months

Wednesday 27th December 2017
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captainaverage said:
Landshark said:
Yes, an unmarked car (well the officer/officers in it) can send you a NIP/172 within 14 days.

I’ve seen a camera van out after dark with Infra red light set up, no idea if it works as I was within the 30 limit!!
Which county, region, area was this in please?
One was sitting last week, on main road coming out of Cardiff centre, first one I have seen working after dark, set up with Infra red.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

117 months

Wednesday 27th December 2017
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Landshark said:
Yes, an unmarked car (well the officer/officers in it) can send you a NIP/172 within 14 days.

I’ve seen a camera van out after dark with Infra red light set up, no idea if it works as I was within the 30 limit!!
They can, yes, but has it ever actually happened?

Landshark

2,117 posts

180 months

Wednesday 27th December 2017
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xjay1337 said:
Landshark said:
Yes, an unmarked car (well the officer/officers in it) can send you a NIP/172 within 14 days.

I’ve seen a camera van out after dark with Infra red light set up, no idea if it works as I was within the 30 limit!!
They can, yes, but has it ever actually happened?
Which bit??

The NiP, yes often

The camera van, yes seen once personally.

Landshark

2,117 posts

180 months

Wednesday 27th December 2017
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captainaverage said:
Which county, region, area was this in please?
I saw one in Surrey, and have heard of them in Hampshire.

Phil Dicky

7,162 posts

262 months

Wednesday 27th December 2017
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Landshark said:
xjay1337 said:
Landshark said:
Yes, an unmarked car (well the officer/officers in it) can send you a NIP/172 within 14 days.

I’ve seen a camera van out after dark with Infra red light set up, no idea if it works as I was within the 30 limit!!
They can, yes, but has it ever actually happened?
Which bit??

The NiP, yes often

The camera van, yes seen once personally.
Seen one too West Yorks.