Layby speed limits

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Somewhatfoolish

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4,348 posts

186 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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What is the speed limit in a layby, if there is one at all? If there is a physical barrier between the layby and the carriageway would it affect it?

I was idly musing on an interesting hypothetical manouever on a hypothetical road (really!) and this would be a relevant consideration.

gshughes

1,277 posts

255 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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Let me guess, can you overtake a tractor or other slow vehicle using the layby? I have pondered similar, but don't know the answer i'm afraid.

Monkeylegend

26,335 posts

231 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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But would that be classed as undertaking rotate

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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Somewhatfoolish said:
What is the speed limit in a layby, if there is one at all? If there is a physical barrier between the layby and the carriageway would it affect it?
It'll be the same as the road.

No change-of-limit signs at the start/end, and very few are long enough for the default streetlight rule to kick in.

But you'd have to be some special kind of special...

IJWS15

1,842 posts

85 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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I saw it done years ago just south of Yarm

Minemapper

933 posts

156 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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IJWS15 said:
I saw it done years ago just south of Yarm
Anyone that grew up here has contemplated that move, and one or two may have even pulled it off. Not for the faint-hearted though. biggrin

I don't see many laybys where it would even be feasible.

tigger1

8,402 posts

221 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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There's a layby on a road I use where I've often thought it would be possible - I'd be worried about clipping the kerb doing a high-speed glance over the shoulder though!

ElectricPics

761 posts

81 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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I think passing through any layby at anything more than a crawl would pass the test for Dangerous Driving if you were doing it deliberately to pass traffic on the carriageway, especially if there were vehicles parked in it. Accelerating out of a layby to join traffic is acceptable, in the same way as building up speed on a hard shoulder. If the carriageway was blocked then making your way carefully through a layby would be fine.

Biker 1

7,724 posts

119 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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tigger1 said:
There's a layby on a road I use where I've often thought it would be possible - I'd be worried about clipping the kerb doing a high-speed glance over the shoulder though!
yes Me too - not sure if I have the cojones though. Either plod or the Grim Reaper would have me.

Seesure

1,187 posts

239 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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Just before Xmas heading south on the A30 (dual carriageway) around Launceston the 2 lanes were blocked by an accident and all traffic (quite light though) was filtered in to a single lane and was then being directed through a layby which conveniently allowed the traffic to continue around the accident whilst allowing the emergency services to do their work.

I went through at around 40 mph whilst being given a "hurry up" hand gesture signal by the policeman directing the traffic through... (unless he was cold and trying to warm up.. )

So no idea on a speed limit but in this instance being given the hurry up meant WOT was applied coming back out ... wink

hutchst

3,699 posts

96 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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Isn't it a 10 second stop/go penalty?

Zetec-S

5,867 posts

93 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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Used to travel regularly across the New Forest and always thought it would be possible on these 2 laybys on the A31:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.8735358,-1.69364...

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.8699314,-1.69890...

woodyTVR

622 posts

246 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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I was once a passenger in a car and the driver was an ex-police class 1 driver. We were heading from Sudbury (Ashbourne) towards Ashbourne town on the A515. We were in a queue of 5 cars behind a tractor and trailer.

The lead car (we were at the back) kept jutting out to make a pass but was too close to see properly and the guy behind him was doing the same. As we approached a layby on our offside our driver said, I'm going to pull in here for 5 minutes as these two are going to cause an accident.

As we pulled in you could see all the way up the road and braaap, off we went and passed the lot - tidy little move really but wasn't the original intension.






woodyTVR

622 posts

246 months

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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Seesure said:
I went through at around 40 mph whilst being given a "hurry up" hand gesture signal by the policeman directing the traffic through... (unless he was cold and trying to warm up.. )
Are you sure he wasn't calling you a wker?

Seesure

1,187 posts

239 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
Seesure said:
I went through at around 40 mph whilst being given a "hurry up" hand gesture signal by the policeman directing the traffic through... (unless he was cold and trying to warm up.. )
Are you sure he wasn't calling you a wker?
As previously mentioned you are a prize nob...

Feck off and get back under your bridge with your troll friends ...

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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<raises eyebrows>
It was a joke based on your comment of possible misinterpretation of the hand gesture, no more than that...
Now calm down a bit, before anybody thinks the cap might fit.

Seesure

1,187 posts

239 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
<raises eyebrows>
It was a joke based on your comment of possible misinterpretation of the hand gesture, no more than that...
Now calm down a bit, before anybody thinks the cap might fit.
Ahhh right of course - apology accepted...



p1esk

4,914 posts

196 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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IJWS15 said:
I saw it done years ago just south of Yarm
I once saw an overtake done using this layby on the A58 near Wetherby:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.9189264,-1.39601...

I was in a queue of several vehicles following a tractor, and somebody passed the lot of us using the layby. It took a few of us by surprise, but it worked perfectly OK.

carreauchompeur

17,840 posts

204 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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I have known of tomfoolery here... friends travelling in convoy and using the very large but bumpy/stty layby to overtake!