Layby speed limits

[Somewhatfoolish]

woodyTVR said:

I was once a passenger in a car and the driver was an ex-police class 1 driver. We were heading from Sudbury (Ashbourne) towards Ashbourne town on the A515. We were in a queue of 5 cars behind a tractor and trailer.

The lead car (we were at the back) kept jutting out to make a pass but was too close to see properly and the guy behind him was doing the same. As we approached a layby on our offside our driver said, I'm going to pull in here for 5 minutes as these two are going to cause an accident.

As we pulled in you could see all the way up the road and braaap, off we went and passed the lot - tidy little move really but wasn't the original intension.

This was pretty much exactly the manoeuvre I was musing, albeit with approaching a left hand bend - interesting to see it's been done.

[gothatway]

Monkeylegend said:

But would that be classed as undertaking

Not if the layby is on the offside

[Red Devil]

p1esk said:

I once saw an overtake done using this layby on the A58 near Wetherby:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.9189264,-1.39601...

I was in a queue of several vehicles following a tractor, and somebody passed the lot of us using the layby. It took a few of us by surprise, but it worked perfectly OK.

B****r! - https://goo.gl/maps/3TXih6nHXPJ2

[Monkeylegend]

gothatway said:

Monkeylegend said:

But would that be classed as undertaking

Not if the layby is on the offside

In that case you will most likely need an undertaker.

[Chimune]

Drove past this today heading northbound A1 towards Edinburgh.

A1

https://goo.gl/maps/oMKPf9FTsXt

You could defo take that at 70 and probably survive. Need balls though!

[Aeroresh]

Layby is defined as part of the carriageway i recall so covered under the same traffic order....ie same speed limit as the adjacent carriageway unless specified otherwise.

[p1esk]

Aeroresh said:

Layby is defined as part of the carriageway i recall so covered under the same traffic order....ie same speed limit as the adjacent carriageway unless specified otherwise.

Part of the carriageway? In that case I imagine using the layby to perform an overtake is 'undertaking', and likely to get us nicked if seen by a police officer.

[p1esk]

Red Devil said:

p1esk said:

I once saw an overtake done using this layby on the A58 near Wetherby:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.9189264,-1.39601...

I was in a queue of several vehicles following a tractor, and somebody passed the lot of us using the layby. It took a few of us by surprise, but it worked perfectly OK.

B****r! - https://goo.gl/maps/3TXih6nHXPJ2

The spoiler doesn't seem to work for me.

[Vaud]

I've seen it done here by a 911 turbo...

https://goo.gl/maps/j4zPdxZinHB2

[zombeh]

More of a carpark than a layby as such but I've seen it done here back before all those posts were put in at both ends (I believe they were put in to discourage this sort of behaviour)

I suspect the answer to the OP's question is either "it's the same as the road" or "it's not a road and doesn't have one" and which it is depends on the exact layby in question. It's certainly not something I'd do unless the layby was completely utterly empty and it was obviously safe and whether I might potentially get 3 points for speeding would be rather less of a concern than 6 for careless

[Red Devil]

p1esk said:

Red Devil said:

B****r! - https://goo.gl/maps/3TXih6nHXPJ2

The spoiler doesn't seem to work for me.

Try again. - https://goo.gl/maps/7FhxPoYfg3k

[BlueMR2]

Red Devil said:

p1esk said:

I once saw an overtake done using this layby on the A58 near Wetherby:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.9189264,-1.39601...

I was in a queue of several vehicles following a tractor, and somebody passed the lot of us using the layby. It took a few of us by surprise, but it worked perfectly OK.

B****r! - https://goo.gl/maps/3TXih6nHXPJ2

I've got your back.