Wife stopped for illegal number plate...
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RA500 said:
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Actual costs will able to be provable, as she has a contract stating X amount per day.
The Court doesn't pay lost wages at full rates but at capped rates. You can claim for legal costs and witnesses can claim for attendance.Actual costs will able to be provable, as she has a contract stating X amount per day.
https://www.gov.uk/going-to-court-victim-witness/e...
Nanook said:
That's the best you can do? It seems fairly clear the guys plate is in fact completely legal. But you're referring to his wife as a f
kwit and telling him to pay up, simply because you don't like them, and when someone points out you're being a bit of a dick about it, all you can come up with is:
"You have a personalised plate and are feeling the butthurt? Poor you!"
'The butthurt'?
You're pathetic
What does your crappy plate say? Tell us, we could do with a laugh in these hard times. The plate in question looks mucho dodge from the photos posted above. If close up it's OK, then OK and my bad, but the photos don't inspire much confidence. In a just world having a personalised plate would be grounds for stoning to death, but the world is not just. kwit and telling him to pay up, simply because you don't like them, and when someone points out you're being a bit of a dick about it, all you can come up with is:"You have a personalised plate and are feeling the butthurt? Poor you!"
'The butthurt'?
You're pathetic
paintman said:
Does your number plate comply with the dimensions given in this leaflet?
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...
This is the only thing that's relevant. Before high horses are brought out, it's tape measure time.https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...
Whether the company that tucked you up for £75 for a pair of £12 plates gave you a pretty piece of paper that says "They're legal" is irrelevant. Pretty pieces of paper aren't always accurate.
Just as a rough comparison with a normal-size plate on a similar age Cayenne...
It's not MAHOOSIVELY small, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was bike-size 64mm tall characters rather than full car-size 79mm.
Edited by TooMany2cvs on Saturday 13th January 16:21
Nanook said:
Anyway, here's the legal info from the suppliers web page:
https://www.fourdotdesignerplates.co.uk/legal/lega...
They can say whatever they like on their website. That doesn't mean that it's accurate... Tape measure.https://www.fourdotdesignerplates.co.uk/legal/lega...
TooMany2cvs said:
It's not MAHOOSIVELY small, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was bike-size 64mm tall characters rather than full car-size 79mm.
I think they've just made the bottom text extra small so they could reduce the bottom margin, but there doesn't seem to be a min size on that text, so shouldn't be an issue.The plate on the red Cayenne also looks slightly larger due to the black dealer bit at the bottom that fills some of the space so it doesn't look lost in the huge recess.
That being said, hypothetically, since the reason given for the fine was due to it being cut down and not character sizing, couldn't you appeal based on that?
Nanook said:
Breadvan72 said:
I just enjoy pissing pompous tts like you off, although it's bit like fish and barrel shooting.
Pompous? ts like you off, although it's bit like fish and barrel shooting. You think I'm the one being pompous? I'm not sure you know what the word means.
I'm not the one that seems to be pissed off here. I'm not the one that went one some hilarious "Well, I bet your numberplate looks silly" offensive, when it was pointed out I was being a bit of a t
t.That was you. Remember?
Anyway, here's the legal info from the suppliers web page:
https://www.fourdotdesignerplates.co.uk/legal/lega...
In My unprofessional opinion, I would say as long as your registration mark meets the dimensions defined in the legislation below, then it is legal. In particular, the characters are the correct height and the margin is at least 13 or 11mm depending on the height of the characters.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2001/561/schedu...
If you lost the case, I'm sure you could take legal action against the company you bought it from.
I may be wrong of course...
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2001/561/schedu...
If you lost the case, I'm sure you could take legal action against the company you bought it from.
I may be wrong of course...
Digitalize said:
If the plate spacing is indeed 'YNF 1' then yeah it looks legal to me. Looks wk on the back with that large recess, but sadly poor aesthetic choice isn't illegal.
Which is why the World is broken. k on the back with that large recess, but sadly poor aesthetic choice isn't illegal.I wonder if "owning a Porsche Cayenne" could be added to the rap sheet. This OP's wife is quite the perp. In mitigation, at least it isn't a Panamera.
Nanook said:
That's true. It changes things slightly though. If they're making these claims of legality on their website, and not actually meeting them, our OP is still responsible for ensuring his car is roadworthy and satisfies all rules and regulations, but they're leaving themselves open to action from him.
Tough tits. It's the RK's responsibility to make sure the plates are legal. Whether they've been gullible with somebody's shonky marketing is an entirely separate question when it comes to "pay the fine or not".Strudul said:
I think they've just made the bottom text extra small so they could reduce the bottom margin, but there doesn't seem to be a min size on that text, so shouldn't be an issue.
There's minimum margin sizes. So long as they're met, the slab of empty plastic is irrelevant - it can be R75/S-type mahoosive, or it can be hacksawed away.Strudul said:
The plate on the red Cayenne also looks slightly larger due to the black dealer bit at the bottom that fills some of the space so it doesn't look lost in the huge recess.
IKWYM, but have a compare of the sizes of the Fs - the OP's definitely looks a bit smaller, hence me thinking they're the bike-size characters.Strudul said:
That being said, hypothetically, since the reason given for the fine was due to it being cut down and not character sizing, couldn't you appeal based on that?
No. "Cut down" is irrelevant Chinese Whispers. The things that are laid down in law (as described in that leaflet) are characters sizes, space between them, and margins.Digitalize said:
If the plate spacing is indeed 'YNF 1' then yeah it looks legal to me. Looks wk on the back with that large recess, but poor aesthetic choice isn't illegal.
I thought the police liked personalised plates as they were easier for general public to remember, should the situation require it.k on the back with that large recess, but poor aesthetic choice isn't illegal.Back to OP’s post, the UK Govt. specifications have been given. Just measure it and tell us. An annotated picture would be best.
Nanook said:
Breadvan72 said:
You have a personalised plate and are feeling the butthurt? Poor you!
That's the best you can do? It seems fairly clear the guys plate is in fact completely legal. But you're referring to his wife as a fkwit and telling him to pay up, simply because you don't like them, and when someone points out you're being a bit of a dick about it, all you can come up with is:"You have a personalised plate and are feeling the butthurt? Poor you!"
'The butthurt'?
You're pathetic
kwit without any outside help. ‘Butthurt’ is a common phrase with him, presumably because having his oversized head up his own arse half the time is more than little painful.
He’s more to be pitied than scorned.
Read relevant spec/requirements.
Measure plates (twice).
If legal you can contest.
If not , pay fine (and probably obtain refund from plate manufacturer).
Frankly, given the size of the fine verses the pain in the arse and potential lost earnings, I’d just pay the fine. But the OP may well feel differently.
Measure plates (twice).
If legal you can contest.
If not , pay fine (and probably obtain refund from plate manufacturer).
Frankly, given the size of the fine verses the pain in the arse and potential lost earnings, I’d just pay the fine. But the OP may well feel differently.
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