Wife stopped for illegal number plate...

Wife stopped for illegal number plate...

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akirk

5,389 posts

114 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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margerison said:
silentbrown said:
I think that's why the general consensus is that the small YNF1 on the Cayenne rear looks ridiculous. There's an area specifically designed for a regular size plate, but the small plate simply draws attention to the "garish plastic" rather than making it inconspicuous.
Could a plate of this 'age' have a black background?
Age of the plate has nothing to do with what colour background / what material is used for the plate...
Age of the car has everything to do with it...

Putting an old numberplate on a new car doesn't suddenly allow you to use the older style number plates...

singlecoil

33,589 posts

246 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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Stoofa said:
To display Black & Silver plates your car needs to be registered within the "historic vehicles" tax class

https://insidedvla.blog.gov.uk/2015/11/17/whats-th...
And to avoid being anachronistic, they should not be applied to vehicles which almost certainly would not have had them when new. From about G suffix onwards nearly all new cars had the new reflective plates, the owners and supplying dealers being keen to make obvious the newness of their cars.

surveyor_101

5,069 posts

179 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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Stoofa said:
To display Black & Silver plates your car needs to be registered within the "historic vehicles" tax class

https://insidedvla.blog.gov.uk/2015/11/17/whats-th...
Codswallop, its commonly accepted that if you have a dark coloured car tinting the front windows, lights so they show less light and black plates are justifiable for aesthetics

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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HantsRat said:
Ok let me rephrase.. I can 'kind of' get personalized number plates. What I don't get is the illegal fonts/smaller size/different colours. Most people look at these illegal plates and just think 'tit'.

By the sounds of the poster above he simply doesn't care about fines so the next step would be to contact DVLA and have the plate revoked. Which they do regularly.
They aren't private plates. I doubt the DVLA would bother revoking a standard issue plate.

I don't tend to have have much interest in private plates. The only private plate I have is on the Mrs car with her initials on it, and that car has standard size plates on it.

If there were points I obviously wouldn't do it as that would be silly risking my licence for a number plate, but a relatively small fine? That's no deterrent.

I don't fiddle with fonts or colours or logos or anything like that, all my plates are the correct font style and as plain as possible, just smaller on the front of the vehicle if it suits.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
Lord Marylebone said:
Number plates are hideously ugly pieces of garish plastic that we are forced to screw to the exterior of our cars
Yes, their whole point is to provide a visually consistent, clear, instant identification of that particular unique vehicle.

Lord Marylebone said:
ruining the looks of the vehicle, especially at the front.

It is for this reason that I usually install either cut down, or smaller than legal plates, because the smaller the size of the ugly plastic adornment the better.

I know it is illegal, yet I simply do not care, I will happily pay the fine if I ever recieve one.
Like I said... Vanity, "I'm special".

There ought to be points, too.
I am fully aware of the purpose of number plates.

If it was that important or that much of a big issue there would be points involved, but clearly it isn't of much interest to the authorities.

A non endorsable fine is not much a deterrent at all. All it says to me is "We don't really care".

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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silentbrown said:
You realise the number plates and their positioning is actually a design feature of many cars? I think that's why the general consensus is that the small YNF1 on the Cayenne rear looks ridiculous. There's an area specifically designed for a regular size plate, but the small plate simply draws attention to the "garish plastic" rather than making it inconspicuous.
I agree that the recess or plinth area for a plate is part of the design, and actually, I agree that the rear plate on the Cayenne looks silly lost in the large plate recess.

I generally stick to normal sized rear plates as they look fine in the recess provided.

But on many sports cars or supercars, the front plate simply can't be accommodated and look good at the same time. There just isn't the room or the location to mount them in an aesthetically pleasing fashion, which is why I will resort to short plates, small motorbike sized plates, stick on plates, etc.

Same with motorbikes. A standard sized plate just looks ridiculous on the compact and angular rear of many modern superbikes. A giant sheet of yellow plastic screwed to the tiny rear of a Ducati... mmmmm nice.

I don't expect everyone to agree, but you only have to look at the front of many Porsches, Ferrari's, Lambos, McLarens and so on to see how many people fit tiny plates or stick on plates wherever they can without spoiling the front of the car.

hutchst

3,700 posts

96 months

Thursday 18th January 2018
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As dual nationals we also spend some time living in South Africa. There, you can buy a personal plate with up to 7 characters, it can be letters only with no numbers whatsoever, and a space counts as a character.

We bought my wife's full name about 20 years ago, although it's currently on retention. It is useful though, as long as you're reasonably generous with tips for car park and fuel station attendants, they do look after her and the car. I get funny looks though when I drive around in a car called SUSAN.

CRA1G

6,530 posts

195 months

Thursday 18th January 2018
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hutchst said:
As dual nationals we also spend some time living in South Africa. There, you can buy a personal plate with up to 7 characters, it can be letters only with no numbers whatsoever, and a space counts as a character.

We bought my wife's full name about 20 years ago, although it's currently on retention. It is useful though, as long as you're reasonably generous with tips for car park and fuel station attendants, they do look after her and the car. I get funny looks though when I drive around in a car called SUSAN.
Can you buy,sell and transfer numbers to someone else as we do in the UK..? Do you have number plate agents over there..? IIRC in America you can choose near on any combanation you want as long as it's not already been taken it's then yours for life and can not be sold just handed back if no longer required..!

hutchst

3,700 posts

96 months

Thursday 18th January 2018
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I'm sure you can, but we don't want to. Only reason it's on retention at the moment is that Mrs. H's current car was bought in the Cape, and the PP can only be registered in Gauteng.

It's a family heirloom FFS wink

CRA1G

6,530 posts

195 months

Thursday 18th January 2018
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hutchst said:
I'm sure you can, but we don't want to. Only reason it's on retention at the moment is that Mrs. H's current car was bought in the Cape, and the PP can only be registered in Gauteng.

It's a family heirloom FFS wink
So it's not like the UK were it can be regesterd anywere..? Is there a big market for plates out there .?

hutchst

3,700 posts

96 months

Thursday 18th January 2018
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I don't know we bought it from the State when they first came out. There are a few anomalies there, your car gets re-registered every time it gets a new owner. So it gets a different reg number whenever you buy/sell. Also it only gets am MOT inspection when you change owners, so as long as you keep it you never need an MOT after the first one.

And there is no compulsory insurance requirement so you can legally drive without any insurance.

Pothole

34,367 posts

282 months

Thursday 18th January 2018
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Malta has actually worked this out quite well, surprisingly. (they're pretty useless at most other aspects of government)

Normally plates are a combo of 3 letters and 3 numbers (or 3 numbers and 3 letters) For €50 (2009 prices-YMMV) you can request any 3 letters with any 3 numbers and as long as they've not been issued you can have them.

For €1000 you can request anything you like up to 10 characters. A combo of letters and numbers or just letters/just numbers. As long as that's not taken (or considered rude/obscene/blasphemous) you'll get it.

I don't know how they deal with buying and selling, but it does make for some amusing plates. One firm of undertakers has a fleet of '50s Ford hearses with RIP001/2/3 etc up to at least 7




xjay1337

15,966 posts

118 months

Thursday 18th January 2018
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Pothole said:
Malta has actually worked this out quite well, surprisingly. (they're pretty useless at most other aspects of government)

Normally plates are a combo of 3 letters and 3 numbers (or 3 numbers and 3 letters) For €50 (2009 prices-YMMV) you can request any 3 letters with any 3 numbers and as long as they've not been issued you can have them.

For €1000 you can request anything you like up to 10 characters. A combo of letters and numbers or just letters/just numbers. As long as that's not taken (or considered rude/obscene/blasphemous) you'll get it.
I have no idea why the UK doesn't do that.

I sure know it would be a sure fire way for 50% of the population to pay £1000 to the Government.

Anyway, on topic, OP, good for you for not bending over.
Hopefully the fine will be cancelled.
Ignore some of the haters. I don't personally like the mini plate on the back but it's your car at the end of the day.

surveyor_101

5,069 posts

179 months

Thursday 18th January 2018
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Lord Marylebone said:
I am fully aware of the purpose of number plates.

If it was that important or that much of a big issue there would be points involved, but clearly it isn't of much interest to the authorities.

A non endorsable fine is not much a deterrent at all. All it says to me is "We don't really care".
You get people who moan about 33mph in 30 tickets with points.

Then you only fine people for norm conforming number plates and people say "since it's only a fine and non-endorsable, I assume it's not really an issue for Authorities"

Bigends

5,418 posts

128 months

Thursday 18th January 2018
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OP needs to chase up the Sgt he spoke with to make sure the issuing PC has been spoken to and steps are in place to get the process cancelled. I'd have thought the PC would have been in touch by now to confirm exactly whats happening.

carinaman

21,291 posts

172 months

Thursday 18th January 2018
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from:

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

That plate amuses me. If it was mine and I had that amount of funds for such a vehicle with that plate, I'd probably get a Rover P5 and 75 crescent bottomed rear plate made up even if just to see what it looked it. WTF indeed.

RM

592 posts

97 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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RA500][IMG said:
Do FourDot provide a template so that you can centre the rear zero plate in the recess, should you wish?

Mandat

3,886 posts

238 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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RM said:
Do FourDot provide a template so that you can centre the rear zero plate in the recess, should you wish?
Has dumbing down reached such low levels that some people now need to be guided in how to use a ruler or tape measure?

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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Mandat said:
RM said:
Do FourDot provide a template so that you can centre the rear zero plate in the recess, should you wish?
Has dumbing down reached such low levels that some people now need to be guided in how to use a ruler or tape measure?
Long since.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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Honestly, have they got fkuc all better to do? What a joke.