Wife stopped for illegal number plate...

Wife stopped for illegal number plate...

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RM

592 posts

97 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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Mandat said:
RM said:
Do FourDot provide a template so that you can centre the rear zero plate in the recess, should you wish?
Has dumbing down reached such low levels that some people now need to be guided in how to use a ruler or tape measure?
With a template you don't need a ruler or a tape measure, so what's the problem? Making one rectangle exactly centre of a larger one, horizontally and vertically, actually isn't that easy to do precisely.

RATATTAK

10,994 posts

189 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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RM said:
With a template you don't need a ruler or a tape measure, so what's the problem? Making one rectangle exactly centre of a larger one, horizontally and vertically, actually isn't that easy to do precisely.
H'mmm

Strudul

1,585 posts

85 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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RM said:
Making one rectangle exactly centre of a larger one, horizontally and vertically, actually isn't that easy to do precisely.
For a 5 year old maybe...

- Measure the space width
- Measure the plate width
- Half the difference
- Measure that distance from a side edge and mark
- Repeat for height
- Line plate up with marks
- Job jobbed

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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RM said:
With a template you don't need a ruler or a tape measure, so what's the problem? Making one rectangle exactly centre of a larger one, horizontally and vertically, actually isn't that easy to do precisely.
If the aim is to get it centred vertically, then there's a miserable fail gone on here.

As for centred horizontally - dead easy...
Bit of masking tape on the plate, bit on the body.
Measure, pencil mark centreline of each.
Line centrelines up.
Lightly fix plate, with spirit level to check the plate's not on the wonk (and don't assume the car isn't on the wonk).
Then stand back and look to see if the height in the non-symmetrical aperture is good for you and properly illuminated by the plate lights.
Stick on properly.
Stand back and wait for totty to fling themselves at the feet of a man with a shorter-than-normal bit of reflective perspex on his car.

RA500

Original Poster:

251 posts

196 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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RM said:
Do FourDot provide a template so that you can centre the rear zero plate in the recess, should you wish?
Yes, there is a template if you wish to use it.


There were some marks in the paint towards the top of the recess, so I had to cover that or it would have looked worse than it does.


RA500

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251 posts

196 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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No.

RA500

Original Poster:

251 posts

196 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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Email received saying that they have now received a response from the issuing officer and he has advised them to cancel the notice.

beer

RATATTAK

10,994 posts

189 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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RA500 said:
Email received saying that they have now received a response from the issuing officer and he has advised them to cancel the notice.

beer
So can we change the thread title now please ?

AJB88

12,400 posts

171 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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RA500 said:
Email received saying that they have now received a response from the issuing officer and he has advised them to cancel the notice.

beer
What did you do to achieve this? I've got a 6 digit number plate and run a "legal" shorter plate, I have measure it and it does tally up with the DVLA rules.

i also carry a printed version of the DVLA rules with measurements etc in glovebox just in ase.

RM

592 posts

97 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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AJB88 said:
What did you do to achieve this? I've got a 6 digit number plate and run a "legal" shorter plate, I have measure it and it does tally up with the DVLA rules.

i also carry a printed version of the DVLA rules with measurements etc in glovebox just in ase.
Does it have the BS mark on it, and the makers name and postcode? If not then it's not legal.

CRA1G

6,529 posts

195 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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RM said:
Does it have the BS mark on it, and the makers name and postcode? If not then it's not legal.
confused Keep up at the back.. It was established on the first page it was made by an authorised BS plate supplier...! and after 20 odd page's it's been established it is LEGAL.!

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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CRA1G said:
RM said:
Does it have the BS mark on it, and the makers name and postcode? If not then it's not legal.
confused Keep up at the back.. It was established on the first page it was made by an authorised BS plate supplier...! and after 20 odd page's it's been established it is LEGAL.!
I think this whole thread should be preserved for all time, as an absolute nadir for Pistonheads.
OP, you have my sympathies.

InitialDave

11,889 posts

119 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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CRA1G said:
confused Keep up at the back.. It was established on the first page it was made by an authorised BS plate supplier...! and after 20 odd page's it's been established it is LEGAL.!
He's not addressing the OP though.

CRA1G

6,529 posts

195 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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InitialDave said:
CRA1G said:
confused Keep up at the back.. It was established on the first page it was made by an authorised BS plate supplier...! and after 20 odd page's it's been established it is LEGAL.!
He's not addressing the OP though.
Well if he had read the thread properly he wouldn't need to ask the question as it's already been answered more than once.!

RA500

Original Poster:

251 posts

196 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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AJB88 said:
RA500 said:
Email received saying that they have now received a response from the issuing officer and he has advised them to cancel the notice.

beer
What did you do to achieve this? I've got a 6 digit number plate and run a "legal" shorter plate, I have measure it and it does tally up with the DVLA rules.

i also carry a printed version of the DVLA rules with measurements etc in glovebox just in ase.
I wrote this email:



To whom it may concern,

My wife was stopped by a traffic officer on the M56 motorway on the 04/01/2018 at 08.01 hrs.

The reason for the stop was that the registration plate failed to conform to section 59(1) of the vehicle excise and registration act 1994

The government legislation is http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2001/561/pdfs/u... (note table B, page 22)

The number plates were produced to this standard by Fourdot Affinity Ltd, DVLA supplier identity number 48070 and they have on their website:

Fourdot number plates are certified to BS AU 145d standard and are fully compliant with The Road Vehicles (Display of Registration Marks)(Amendment) Regulations 2009 as detailed in Statutory Instrument 2009 No.811 under the powers of The Vehicle Excise and Registration Act 1994(a).

and also

Fourdot Affinity Ltd is authorised by the DVLA with Supplier Identity Number 48070 under The Vehicles Crime (Registration of Registration Plate Suppliers) Regulations 2008 detailed in Statutory Instrument 2008 No.1715 under the powers of The Vehicles (Crimes) Act 2001(a).

taken from https://www.fourdotdesignerplates.co.uk/legal/lega...


I have also been to ***** traffic Police station and spoken to sergeant *****, who measured and confirmed that the number plate is 100% legal.

The pictures attached confirm that the number plates are legal, there may be some error in the measurements taken from the photograph as it is hard to get the correct angle for each measurement, hence me attending the police station to confirm with the sergeants eyes that the plates are in fact legal.

I request that this FPN be cancelled with immediate effect, and notice emailed and posted with the confirmation that the FPN has been cancelled.

If this is not satisfactory, we will instruct a solicitor to attend court and will apply for costs.


Best regards

CRA1G

6,529 posts

195 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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clap

Exige77

6,518 posts

191 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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Good !!

InitialDave

11,889 posts

119 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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CRA1G said:
Well if he had read the thread properly he wouldn't need to ask the question as it's already been answered more than once.!
Quote the post that tells him AJB88's number plate includes the maker's details.

That's who he was asking. Not the OP.

surveyor_101

5,069 posts

179 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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RA500 said:
I wrote this email:



To whom it may concern,

My wife was stopped by a traffic officer on the M56 motorway on the 04/01/2018 at 08.01 hrs.

The reason for the stop was that the registration plate failed to conform to section 59(1) of the vehicle excise and registration act 1994

The government legislation is http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2001/561/pdfs/u... (note table B, page 22)

The number plates were produced to this standard by Fourdot Affinity Ltd, DVLA supplier identity number 48070 and they have on their website:

Fourdot number plates are certified to BS AU 145d standard and are fully compliant with The Road Vehicles (Display of Registration Marks)(Amendment) Regulations 2009 as detailed in Statutory Instrument 2009 No.811 under the powers of The Vehicle Excise and Registration Act 1994(a).

and also

Fourdot Affinity Ltd is authorised by the DVLA with Supplier Identity Number 48070 under The Vehicles Crime (Registration of Registration Plate Suppliers) Regulations 2008 detailed in Statutory Instrument 2008 No.1715 under the powers of The Vehicles (Crimes) Act 2001(a).

taken from https://www.fourdotdesignerplates.co.uk/legal/lega...


I have also been to ***** traffic Police station and spoken to sergeant *****, who measured and confirmed that the number plate is 100% legal.

The pictures attached confirm that the number plates are legal, there may be some error in the measurements taken from the photograph as it is hard to get the correct angle for each measurement, hence me attending the police station to confirm with the sergeants eyes that the plates are in fact legal.

I request that this FPN be cancelled with immediate effect, and notice emailed and posted with the confirmation that the FPN has been cancelled.

If this is not satisfactory, we will instruct a solicitor to attend court and will apply for costs.


Best regards
I am of the view I have better things to do than justify why I have specially sized number plates. Just buy standard number plates and no issue.

But if your vanity is worth hours of wasted time with the police, whatever floats your boat.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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Great job OP, bloody nightmare and a total waste of time by the muppet who enforced this.