What happens if you are caught on average speed check camera
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First the registered keeper will get a Notice of Intention to Prosecute, this will also have a section 172 request with it that requires the addressee to name the driver, once the driver has replied (which may be a second notice to them if they aren’t the registered keeper) then the Police will decide their course of action depending on the speed measured, a course (up to limit+10%+9mph) if it’s England or Wales, or a conditional offer of a fixed penalty (up to 25mph over the limit at higher speeds, 20mph at lower) or the driver will get a summons to court (usually a single justice procedure notice for England and Wales) but that often takes up to 6 months to arrive.
Well I am not sure if I have been but I purchased this car 2 weeks ago and I still haven't received the logbook and I contacted Dvla to see if I show as the owner of the car which I don't and it's shown as trade statues. So if I was caught on a speed camera what will happen as I am not shown as the owner yet
The NIP/S172 request will go to the RK/Trader within the 14 days and they will reply saying they sold the car to you and you will get the NIP/S172 in due course. Unfortunately, any 14-day getout for the original NIP being served will not apply to you.
It could take 30 days for the trader to reply and then some time to get to you, if you don't hear in 6 weeks you could be in the clear, after 2 months, probably in the clear, 6 months (almost) definitely in the clear.
Bert
It could take 30 days for the trader to reply and then some time to get to you, if you don't hear in 6 weeks you could be in the clear, after 2 months, probably in the clear, 6 months (almost) definitely in the clear.
Bert
garyhun said:
Cliopetrolhead said:
I slowed down but I'm not sure I was probz going 80-90 once I passed the average speed cameras but then I slowed down right before them to 70mph I hope nothing has happened
That sentence makes no sense!The average speed between the cameras is what matters not the specific speed you were doing when the camera takes your image.
The Rookie said:
Indeed, they seem to hold the totally illogical belief that each camera measures the speed and then they average that. If each camera can measure your speed why would they do that.....
I saw a knobber only today braking sharply before the first set of SPECS cameras on the A1058 roadworks in North Tyneside, accelerating to a good 50 or more in the 30 limit, then braking sharply before the second set. I wonder if they think everyone else is chugging along at 30ish because they're daft? Despite being well signed, these cameras have caught thousands of drivers in just over a year. 
Its amazing how stupid people really are. Surely half the country hasn't totally failed GCSE maths or physics?
Average speed = Distance between the two cameras / Time taken for your car to go from the first camera to the second camera.
Speed = Distance/Time.
One thing divided by the other.
Instead of handing out speed awareness courses, they should give out mandatory physics lessons.
Average speed = Distance between the two cameras / Time taken for your car to go from the first camera to the second camera.
Speed = Distance/Time.
One thing divided by the other.
Instead of handing out speed awareness courses, they should give out mandatory physics lessons.
The Rookie said:
Indeed, they seem to hold the totally illogical belief that each camera measures the speed and then they average that. If each camera can measure your speed why would they do that.....
If you hit the first one in an average speed camera a good 15mph over whatever limit (say you didn't realise they were there) they are enforcing, then slow right down (or even stop for a bit) to make your average around the actual speed limit you'd get away with it. However if they measured your actual speed as well you'd not get away with speeding past the first camera even though your average between the two cameras was less.I know that most big sections of average speed cameras are meant to only have a couple of cameras active, but assuming they were all active and your average speed through the whole section was over the speed limit, would you get one ticket or one ticket for each pair of cameras?
A work colleague of mine had a friend who was convinced that the word "average" in the context of a SPECS zone meant the average of the speed of traffic around her.
She thought that provided she was going no faster than the general speed of traffic she was in at the time she would be fine.
Alarmingly, this person was a teacher - hopefully not maths or physics.
She thought that provided she was going no faster than the general speed of traffic she was in at the time she would be fine.
Alarmingly, this person was a teacher - hopefully not maths or physics.
tankplanker said:
f you hit the first one in an average speed camera a good 15mph over whatever limit (say you didn't realise they were there) they are enforcing, then slow right down (or even stop for a bit) to make your average around the actual speed limit you'd get away with it. However if they measured your actual speed as well you'd not get away with speeding past the first camera even though your average between the two cameras was less.
I know that most big sections of average speed cameras are meant to only have a couple of cameras active, but assuming they were all active and your average speed through the whole section was over the speed limit, would you get one ticket or one ticket for each pair of cameras?
Well exactly, but as an average speed camera cannot measure your speed.I know that most big sections of average speed cameras are meant to only have a couple of cameras active, but assuming they were all active and your average speed through the whole section was over the speed limit, would you get one ticket or one ticket for each pair of cameras?
Average speed camera systems have all cameras active, there is no reason not to, and yes you could be sent a NIP per detected offence although in practice most forces do not, it does depend how the cameras are used, each camera is either and entry or exit camera for a zone not both, so they could be paired 1-2, 3-4, 5-6 etc or 1-3, 2-4 in which case speeding between 1 and 4 can only be a single offence as part of the two zones overlap.
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