No heating in a rented house

[DurianIceCream]

Coin Slot. said:

Where did I say the landlord has to replace it?

A continuous cycle of breaking/fixing over the course of a few weeks isn't acceptable, one or two breakdowns a year is.

Well what are you suggesting then? It broke twice, it got fixed twice. Does this meet your definition of a continuous cycle? Can you give real life examples of an item in a rented house breaking twice and being fixed twice resulting in a LL being found to be deficient?

[SlimRick]

DurianIceCream said:

Well what are you suggesting then? It broke twice, it got fixed twice. Does this meet your definition of a continuous cycle? Can you give real life examples of an item in a rented house breaking twice and being fixed twice resulting in a LL being found to be deficient?

Not fixed twice, still awaiting the second fix. It will be 6 days if the part arrives on Monday,

[WinstonWolf]

SlimRick said:

DurianIceCream said:

Well what are you suggesting then? It broke twice, it got fixed twice. Does this meet your definition of a continuous cycle? Can you give real life examples of an item in a rented house breaking twice and being fixed twice resulting in a LL being found to be deficient?

Not fixed twice, still awaiting the second fix. It will be 6 days if the part arrives on Monday,

I'd buy a house of your own, then you can replace the boiler at your own expense if the current situation is unacceptable.

[So]

SlimRick said:

DurianIceCream said:

Well what are you suggesting then? It broke twice, it got fixed twice. Does this meet your definition of a continuous cycle? Can you give real life examples of an item in a rented house breaking twice and being fixed twice resulting in a LL being found to be deficient?

Not fixed twice, still awaiting the second fix. It will be 6 days if the part arrives on Monday,

It's still quite reasonable if that's how long the part takes to arrive.

Even if the LL were prepared to replace the boiler it would probably take just as long to obtain quotes and get an engineer booked in to replace it.

[SlimRick]

WinstonWolf said:

I'd buy a house of your own, then you can replace the boiler at your own expense if the current situation is unacceptable.

Congratulations, you win "tttiest reply of the thread" award.

[Tyre Smoke]

OP, could you answer my questions?

How long have you lived there?

Would the boiler have to be replaced before the house could be re let if you moved out?

[anonymous-user]

DurianIceCream said:

Well what are you suggesting then? It broke twice, it got fixed twice. Does this meet your definition of a continuous cycle? Can you give real life examples of an item in a rented house breaking twice and being fixed twice resulting in a LL being found to be deficient?

The op stated his landlord said he couldn't afford to replace the boiler, that's not the tenants issue.

Waiting 3 or 4 days at a time for a boiler repair at this time of year is not acceptable, I can't think of a single instance where spares for my boilers have taken more than 3 working days to obtain. Anything longer than 3 days and I would seriously be looking to swap that boiler out, certainly within 5 days or my local authority would be sharpening their knives anyway.

Op, what boiler brand and model is it?

[SlimRick]

Tyre Smoke said:

OP, could you answer my questions?

How long have you lived there?

We moved in May 2014, only other issue was when we first moved in and there was no hot water from time to time. This was fixed after 2 visits from an engineer.

Tyre Smoke said:

Would the boiler have to be replaced before the house could be re let if you moved out?

Probably not if it was functioning at the time it was let.

Edited by SlimRick on Friday 19th January 16:44

Edited by SlimRick on Friday 19th January 16:45

[anonymous-user]

So said:

It's still quite reasonable if that's how long the part takes to arrive.

Even if the LL were prepared to replace the boiler it would probably take just as long to obtain quotes and get an engineer booked in to replace it.

Now who's talking bks.

[SlimRick]

Coin Slot. said:

Op, what boiler brand and model is it?

It's a Worcester 24CDi - not sure of the age, but the two engineers that have visited did comment on it's "vintage".

[WinstonWolf]

SlimRick said:

WinstonWolf said:

I'd buy a house of your own, then you can replace the boiler at your own expense if the current situation is unacceptable.

Congratulations, you win "tttiest reply of the thread" award.

You don't like it because it's true.

Will it fail again after the repair? You simply have no way of knowing...

[anonymous-user]

SlimRick said:

Congratulations, you win "tttiest reply of the thread" award.

Early days yet, early days.

To be honest I can see why you're upset, but in some ways an older boiler can be a good thing as long as parts are still available as they tend to be simpler.

Personally I'd be putting it down to bad luck, if it happens again in a short timeframe then that's more of a problem. We had something very similar on the fifteen year old boiler in the second house we bought, two different failures within a couple of months, but it was good as gold after that for another five years. Last time we went past the place it was still there, could be triggers broom by now, but that's a decade on from those original problems now.

Maybe ask the engineer their opinion on the likely life left in it when they come to repair it?

[anonymous-user]

SlimRick said:

It's a Worcester 24CDi - not sure of the age, but the two engineers that have visited did comment on it's "vintage".

My gas guys are due back in a min, I'll ask them their thoughts.

[telecat]

For that size of house It's a bit under powered. Even a 28Kw in Our house felt under strain so I went straight to the biggest one we could fit on the wall and would work on the Gas Pipe a 38Kw. Probably over kill for you but better to have the capability.

Edited by telecat on Friday 19th January 16:59

[SlimRick]

Coin Slot. said:

My gas guys are due back in a min, I'll ask them their thoughts.

Thanks - two of the engineers who have visited have recommended its replacement to the lettings agency...but they would do wouldn't they!

[anonymous-user]

SlimRick said:

Thanks - two of the engineers who have visited have recommended its replacement to the lettings agency...but they would do wouldn't they!

Do you know what parts they ordered?

[SlimRick]

Coin Slot. said:

Do you know what parts they ordered?

First time was a fan at the top of the boiler, not sure what has been ordered this time. No attempt at ignition when the boiler s turned on, and the radiator light flashes at a rate of approx 1 per second.

[So]

SlimRick said:

Coin Slot. said:

My gas guys are due back in a min, I'll ask them their thoughts.

Thanks - two of the engineers who have visited have recommended its replacement to the lettings agency...but they would do wouldn't they!

Fair play to you for recognising that.

I wish I had a pound for every time a tenant said, "you've got to replace it because the British Gas engineer says it's old"

[MitchT]

BoRED S2upid said:

Have you handed in your notice OP? If not why not. You can get very small fan heaters that churn out a great deal of heat and can be quickly moved between rooms not ideal I know.

They're very expensive to run in my experience. I wouldn't consider it acceptable to be lumbered with the kind of electricity bills that I'd end up with if these were were my only option for any length of time. OP's landlord need to fulfil his obligations.

[anonymous-user]

SlimRick said:

First time was a fan at the top of the boiler, not sure what has been ordered this time. No attempt at ignition when the boiler s turned on, and the radiator light flashes at a rate of approx 1 per second.

There's two versions of that boiler apparently, one is circa 10 years old, the Greenstar model and then there's an older version that's non condensing, circa 15+ years old.

My local supplier has fans, pcb's, gas valves and heat exchangers in stock for both types.

Somebody is dragging their heels.