NIP 110mph+ in a 50mph zone - non disclosure

NIP 110mph+ in a 50mph zone - non disclosure

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Gavia

7,627 posts

91 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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yonex said:
Dammit said:
@cmaguire - I did tell you that you lacked the capability to understand these things.

I think the pair of you need to look up what anti-social means, it's not just spitting on the floor and swearing.
So you have never breached the speed limit?
He’s not said that has he?

I can tell you some of the problems that alcohol has caused over the years. That doesn’t mean I’ve never been drunk.

vonhosen

40,233 posts

217 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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REALIST123 said:
TooMany2cvs said:
mickmcpaddy said:
have you seen how much you stand to loose if you go not guilty at court these days?
Depends if you did it or not.
Not really.

Plenty of people who didn’t do it end up being found guilty.
Even more who did do it get found not guilty.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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vonhosen said:
REALIST123 said:
TooMany2cvs said:
mickmcpaddy said:
have you seen how much you stand to loose if you go not guilty at court these days?
Depends if you did it or not.
Not really.

Plenty of people who didn’t do it end up being found guilty.
Even more who did do it get found not guilty.
I was thinking more along the lines of "Prison's full of innocent men".

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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Gavia said:
He’s not said that has he?

I can tell you some of the problems that alcohol has caused over the years. That doesn’t mean I’ve never been drunk.
Speeding is not automatically 'anti-social' no matter what the hard of thinking would have you believe.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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yonex said:
Speeding is not automatically 'anti-social' no matter what the hard of thinking would have you believe.
That fourth word... I think you added that.

jwo

Original Poster:

984 posts

249 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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Well from what I hear today only issue was the failure to name driver.

Speed offence was 122mph in a 50mph limit, in a van...

To my mind make a farce of the system, on the flip side still 6pts and £750 fine...

Some people are idiots/chancers and just getaway with it.

On a purely technical note seems a workable way to mitigate against a really high penalty...

I will leave it there... thank you for all thoughts/discussions though!

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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jwo said:
Speed offence was 122mph in a 50mph limit, in a van...
<blink> <blink>
Christ.

mickmcpaddy

1,445 posts

105 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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Some people never tell their insurance about any points and get away with it that way, as long as you don't crash you would probably get away with it. Its only shows up for 4 years.

Slight derailment, if the points count for 3 years and stay on for 4 years how do the insurance companies find out about points 4 years and 1 day+ old, as they ask for 5 years history.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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mickmcpaddy said:
Some people never tell their insurance about any points and get away with it that way, as long as you don't crash you would probably get away with it. Its only shows up for 4 years.
So long as you remember you're lying, and never ever give them your licence number for a dvla check as part of a quote - and I suspect that'll become less and less optional. As soon as your licence number gets flagged up next to your name in their systems, you can bet it's staying.

mickmcpaddy said:
Slight derailment, if the points count for 3 years and stay on for 4 years how do the insurance companies find out about points 4 years and 1 day+ old, as they ask for 5 years history.
Well, if you told them four years ago that you had them...

It's a very slippery slope, and sooner or later big data will trip you up. Then it's down to declaring "insurance cancelled", and you KNOW they'll not forget that one.

jwo

Original Poster:

984 posts

249 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
<blink> <blink>
Christ.
Yep... my thoughts exactly...

mickmcpaddy

1,445 posts

105 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
Well, if you told them four years ago that you had them...

It's a very slippery slope, and sooner or later big data will trip you up. Then it's down to declaring "insurance cancelled", and you KNOW they'll not forget that one.
But again, if you don't tell them.... When I sold a house 10+ years ago I moved from a WA post code to a M one. Rang the two bit insurance company to tell them and they bluntly stated we don't cover M postcode's you insurance is now cancelled. WTF. Do you think I ever declared their bad business sense? Is there even a record of it anywhere, I doubt it.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
That fourth word... I think you added that.
No. You have just forgotten about driving it seems and are another sheeple.

Gavia

7,627 posts

91 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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mickmcpaddy said:
But again, if you don't tell them.... When I sold a house 10+ years ago I moved from a WA post code to a M one. Rang the two bit insurance company to tell them and they bluntly stated we don't cover M postcode's you insurance is now cancelled. WTF. Do you think I ever declared their bad business sense? Is there even a record of it anywhere, I doubt it.
You don’t have to declare that. You only need to declare it where the insurer cancels the policy because they find something you lied about to one of their questions.

vonhosen

40,233 posts

217 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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For his back


Dammit

3,790 posts

208 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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yonex said:
No. You have just forgotten about driving it seems and are another sheeple.
I think you need to research how to conjugate your playground insults.

Although shperson doesn't really roll off the tongue.

EDIT'd: being a bit mean to Yonex

Short Grain

2,753 posts

220 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
jwo said:
Speed offence was 122mph in a 50mph limit, in a van...
<blink> <blink>
Christ.
Sabine Schmidt??

vonhosen

40,233 posts

217 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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Short Grain said:
TooMany2cvs said:
jwo said:
Speed offence was 122mph in a 50mph limit, in a van...
<blink> <blink>
Christ.
Sabine Schmidt??
In a 50??


Edited by vonhosen on Tuesday 23 January 15:32

cmaguire

3,589 posts

109 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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vonhosen said:
In a 50??


Edited by vonhosen on Tuesday 23 January 15:32
A 50 limit........hmmmmm

If this occurred on a 'smart' Motorway then the offence takes on a different complexion. It's almost contrived to make it appear more serious than it actually is.


Dammit

3,790 posts

208 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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You think that the motorway was perhaps wearing a short skirt? Winked at the driver?


cmaguire

3,589 posts

109 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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What was a flat 70 limit now isn't.

If the limit is reduced to 50 it is in theory due to traffic volume (excepting a broken down vehicle etc) therefore if this is to be believed then how could it even be possible to do 122 in a van?
Ergo, if it is possible then the reduction to 50 is a pisstake and has effectively exaggerated the offence.

Anyway, maybe it was on a single carriageway road. No-one knows on here.