6pts for 26 in a 20?
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giantdefy said:
It is obviously bks
Enforcement starts at 24mph (20 + 10% +2)
Awareness course (if you haven't done one in the last three years) 24 - 31mph otherwise £100 and 3 points
>31mph straight to court (or Single Justice Procedure).
As to 6 points reduced to 3, I refer you to my first sentence.
In that case I'm bloody glad the blanket 20's near me aren't enforced - most people still do the standard 35 through them, others significantly more!Enforcement starts at 24mph (20 + 10% +2)
Awareness course (if you haven't done one in the last three years) 24 - 31mph otherwise £100 and 3 points
>31mph straight to court (or Single Justice Procedure).
As to 6 points reduced to 3, I refer you to my first sentence.
Good one Lewisham, changing the limit for no apparent reason isn't exactly going to make a difference is it
anonymous said:
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If it's failure to disclose, then it's the registered keeper who's getting those points, not you.I fell foul of this while I was working away. I got home after the NIP had dropped on the mat and despite sending it back, it arrived after the appropriate date so I ended up looking at 6 points.
The form mentions 6 points for failing to disclose driver information.
It is possible to get 3-6 penalty points for speeding or otherwise a ban of any length. However, 24-31 mph inclusive is usually a NSAC20 speed awareness course. If not then 24-34 mph is a £100 fixed penalty and 3 point endorsement. If you went to court then 21-30 has a guideline of 3 points and a Band A fine.
I gather that NSAC20 is available even if you’ve completed a NSAC within the last 3 years.
It is possible to get 3-6 penalty points for speeding or otherwise a ban of any length. However, 24-31 mph inclusive is usually a NSAC20 speed awareness course. If not then 24-34 mph is a £100 fixed penalty and 3 point endorsement. If you went to court then 21-30 has a guideline of 3 points and a Band A fine.
I gather that NSAC20 is available even if you’ve completed a NSAC within the last 3 years.
giantdefy said:
It is obviously bks
Enforcement starts at 24mph (20 + 10% +2)
Awareness course (if you haven't done one in the last three years) 24 - 31mph otherwise £100 and 3 points
>31mph straight to court (or Single Justice Procedure).
As to 6 points reduced to 3, I refer you to my first sentence.
The same course. NSAC20 is not NSAC.Enforcement starts at 24mph (20 + 10% +2)
Awareness course (if you haven't done one in the last three years) 24 - 31mph otherwise £100 and 3 points
>31mph straight to court (or Single Justice Procedure).
As to 6 points reduced to 3, I refer you to my first sentence.
Fixed penalty to 34 mph. 35 mph before a SJPN would be issued.
Coming across West London late the other night from Greenford to SW London and I drove down so many 20mph roads.
I tried, I really did but was probably around 25/26 looking at my speedo (far to often and thus not keeping a good eye on what was happening outside the car).
The worse thing was the vicious tailgating, I presume from locals that knew where the cameras were, and being subject to dodgy overtakes.
I did a course once, for 88 on a motorway. I felt sorry for all the 36 in a 30 people.
I tried, I really did but was probably around 25/26 looking at my speedo (far to often and thus not keeping a good eye on what was happening outside the car).
The worse thing was the vicious tailgating, I presume from locals that knew where the cameras were, and being subject to dodgy overtakes.
I did a course once, for 88 on a motorway. I felt sorry for all the 36 in a 30 people.
shakotan said:
I thought 20 limits weren't 'enforceable', or have I been listening to pub chat too much?
My understanding is that 20mph limits are supposed to be 'self enforcing' - IE it is difficult to do more than 20 driving sensibly, or temporary limits around school start/finishing times, so similar.eldar said:
shakotan said:
I thought 20 limits weren't 'enforceable', or have I been listening to pub chat too much?
My understanding is that 20mph limits are supposed to be 'self enforcing' - IE it is difficult to do more than 20 driving sensibly, or temporary limits around school start/finishing times, so similar.Cat
Christ. This is getting crazy.
To be honest, probably to the massive annoyance of a lot of people on PH, I really do pootle around urban areas. But 20s are being applied in daft areas now, and all the cars I have/have had recently with cable speedos swing easily +/-5mph right down at the bottom. I think the effort for me to be that accurate in a 20, whilst actually still moving, is simply too great to be realistic.
Edit: read the paperwork. Not so bad. But point above stands - in an old car, even keeping between 15-20 can be guesswork.
To be honest, probably to the massive annoyance of a lot of people on PH, I really do pootle around urban areas. But 20s are being applied in daft areas now, and all the cars I have/have had recently with cable speedos swing easily +/-5mph right down at the bottom. I think the effort for me to be that accurate in a 20, whilst actually still moving, is simply too great to be realistic.
Edit: read the paperwork. Not so bad. But point above stands - in an old car, even keeping between 15-20 can be guesswork.
Edited by RedSwede on Thursday 22 February 15:57
As explained above, the court can endorse 3-6 penalty points or you can be disqualified from driving for any length.
Avoid court proceedings by:
(a) completing a course
or
(b) paying a £100 fixed penalty / 3 points
Also, if court proceedings are instituted then, again as explained above, 26/20 has a guideline of 3 penalty points.
Edited by agtlaw on Thursday 22 February 16:53
What am I missing here? To me:
That NIP said:
The alleged offence carries a maximum fine of £1000.......blah blah...... and a driving licence endorsement of 6 penalty points or disqualification.....blah blah.....
So yes, you could be fined £1k and get 6 points but that's the maximum, surely it'll be the standard £100/3pts (or a course)?Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff