6pts for 26 in a 20?

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Eddieslofart

1,328 posts

82 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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Diregarding the bhing, i find the fact someone, or on this thread, two people have been nabbed for 26mph as nothing more than a money earner.

It’s scandalous. The other fact that the holiers agree with it, on a motoring forum ?

Just beggars belief.

Sheepshanks

32,530 posts

118 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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Until the late 50’s the speed limit for lorries was 20MPH - an old cop told me they used to book ‘em at 25.

killerferret666

461 posts

187 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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R0G said:
Is it extra 3 points because it was done on valentines day ?
In Australia on bank holiday days and Holiday Periods like the Xmas break, this is actually true. All fines are doubled and demerit points doubled as well. Everyone Drives like a saint!

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

185 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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Eddieslofart said:
Diregarding the bhing, i find the fact someone, or on this thread, two people have been nabbed for 26mph as nothing more than a money earner.

It’s scandalous. The other fact that the holiers agree with it, on a motoring forum ?

Just beggars belief.
I'm actually rather surprised that there have been so few of SP&L's sanctimonious types in evidence. I suppose the whole 'speed kills' thing is pretty hard at 26 mph....

Dammit

3,790 posts

207 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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What you are seeing is the result of cmoose being a grown-up, and therefore hasn't been moaning about the searing injustice he's been dealt, but instead is simply seeking clarity on what the paperwork means and getting on with things.

The vast majority of children who infest this site would, indeed, have turned this into a whine-fest.

alfie2244

11,292 posts

187 months

Sunday 25th February 2018
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Course attended..........not sure what I learned except there are some weird people in this world.

little tip..........don't sit in front of the fire exit glass doors when the sun is shining through them as it can make you almost drift off to sleep.

OddCat

2,515 posts

170 months

Sunday 25th February 2018
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anonymous said:
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I fairness to cmoose, that letter is horribly worded.

"The alleged offence (this one) carries a maximum fine of £1,000 blah, blah and a driving licence endorsement of 6 points.. "

The word 'maximum' appears to apply only to the fine element.

What they mean is "the alleged offence carries a maximum fine of £1,000 blah, blahblah and a maximum driving licence endorsement of 6 points...."

Edited by OddCat on Sunday 25th February 16:09

croyde

22,702 posts

229 months

Monday 26th February 2018
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It is badly written. Just like those parking on private land fine letters.

pavarotti1980

4,837 posts

83 months

Monday 26th February 2018
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kiethton said:
In that case I'm bloody glad the blanket 20's near me aren't enforced - most people still do the standard 35 through them, others significantly more!

Good one Lewisham, changing the limit for no apparent reason isn't exactly going to make a difference is it
They will have received £250k from the EU for adopting 20mph zones in villages/towns

edo

16,699 posts

264 months

Thursday 1st March 2018
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To be fair, they probably googled him, realised what and argumentative c*nt he is, and stuck 6 points max in the hope they wont waste eternity arguing with him. Little do they know....

edo

16,699 posts

264 months

Thursday 1st March 2018
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anonymous said:
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wow.

edo

16,699 posts

264 months

Thursday 1st March 2018
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anonymous said:
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It's Guards red. Far too fast for you - swap it for a grey one before you lose your licence.


Edited by edo on Thursday 1st March 23:30

InitialDave

11,854 posts

118 months

Thursday 1st March 2018
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OddCat said:
I fairness to cmoose, that letter is horribly worded.

"The alleged offence (this one) carries a maximum fine of £1,000 blah, blah and a driving licence endorsement of 6 points.. "

The word 'maximum' appears to apply only to the fine element.

What they mean is "the alleged offence carries a maximum fine of £1,000 blah, blahblah and a maximum driving licence endorsement of 6 points...."
Agree completely.

Truffs

266 posts

137 months

Friday 2nd March 2018
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It’s obviously a letter that’s designed to frighten the recipient into replying by stating in uncertain terms the maximum certain penalties.

That way, glass half full people can reply in a panic immediately as can the “phew” it was not me brigade.

The actual “offender” might also panic and modify their driving too while they sweat at the behest of the admin machine.

The letter won’t win any clear English awards but then neither will the legal profession in general. I guess they are trying to improve as they realise how uneducated/unversed so many of their ‘customers’ are.

AGTlaw is quite level on here so I was surprised they were “out”. I don’t remember a discussion on the letter before but they certainly have posted up those fine guidelines so many times they probably have them permanently saved to their clipboard. I must admit that they probably realised where the thread was heading so wisely got out but it’s improved a bit now so it’s worth posting again.

hutchst

3,696 posts

95 months

Friday 2nd March 2018
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Truffs said:
The letter won’t win any clear English awards but then neither will the legal profession in general.
So what exactly is the maximum certain penalty in this context?

Truffs

266 posts

137 months

Friday 2nd March 2018
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I would go with 6 points and that’s only a risk if you go to court and mess it up. 3 points is the normal outcome if you have been on a speed awareness course.

steedy27

662 posts

189 months

Thursday 22nd March 2018
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Just been caught by this camera doing 28mph - I completely forgot its a 20MPH zone due to the lorry crash as I haven't been this way from the Motorway for a while now, completely my fault. Did you get offered the speed awareness course or just points?

steedy27

662 posts

189 months

Thursday 22nd March 2018
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steedy27 said:
Just been caught by this camera doing 28mph - I completely forgot its a 20MPH zone due to the lorry crash as I haven't been this way from the Motorway for a while now, completely my fault. Did you get offered the speed awareness course or just points?
Got the letter from the police today, was expecting it to take longer as I only received the letter from Lex AutoLease yesterday. I can apply for the course thankfully!

poo at Paul's

14,116 posts

174 months

Thursday 22nd March 2018
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Is this the hill that the tipper lorry went down out of control and killed all them people, kid on footpath, taxi occupants etc?


Ironic if so, as IIRC the driver got off, despite his tacho showing him speeding throughout the whole of his fking journey !

Quite unbelievable.

alfie2244

11,292 posts

187 months

Thursday 22nd March 2018
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poo at Paul's said:
Is this the hill that the tipper lorry went down out of control and killed all them people, kid on footpath, taxi occupants etc?


Ironic if so, as IIRC the driver got off, despite his tacho showing him speeding throughout the whole of his fking journey !

Quite unbelievable.
And yet, despite having 6ft width restriction signs and markings both ends, there is an almost permanent flow of lorries up and down the hill.......wasn't speed that caused the tragedy.

Edited by alfie2244 on Thursday 22 March 18:44