New motorway limit : 30mph
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Roadworks are beginning! They have got the speed cameras up and are now active. The M621 into Leeds is now 30mph!
30!
It is normally 50mph, due to a fair amount of on/off sections and it's busy at rush hour around the main junctions, but it's still largely 3 lanes plus hard shoulder.
So... What could the road people possibly be doing that warrants a 30 limit, where all other motorways get spanked to 50?
30mph! the same speed as passing by most schools, the same speed as driving through housing estates where people exist all the time, not just a few hours at night. And arguably there are more dangers there - and no one is protected with barriers and certainly no speed enforcement for the entire stretch.
What could they be doing? I'll let you know in a few days when they finally get the diggers and barriers out. In the meantime, whilst we all trundle along an open 3-lane-plus-hard-shoulder speed controlled motorway at 30mph...any guesses?
30!
It is normally 50mph, due to a fair amount of on/off sections and it's busy at rush hour around the main junctions, but it's still largely 3 lanes plus hard shoulder.
So... What could the road people possibly be doing that warrants a 30 limit, where all other motorways get spanked to 50?
30mph! the same speed as passing by most schools, the same speed as driving through housing estates where people exist all the time, not just a few hours at night. And arguably there are more dangers there - and no one is protected with barriers and certainly no speed enforcement for the entire stretch.
What could they be doing? I'll let you know in a few days when they finally get the diggers and barriers out. In the meantime, whilst we all trundle along an open 3-lane-plus-hard-shoulder speed controlled motorway at 30mph...any guesses?
Edited by Paul O on Thursday 22 February 22:53
Looks like it's for barrier works...
https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/m621-i...
Fortunately it says completion date is this year! Amazing!
https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/m621-i...
Fortunately it says completion date is this year! Amazing!
TheInsanity1234 said:
Is it an elevated motorway? I know the top of the M5, just before it merges into the M6, where it goes through Birmingham, is currently a 30 limit as they're doing structural work under the bridge.
Plusi it's 2 lane each direction contraflow. For about the next 12 months As somebody who may be working on that section of the M621, I think it's quite welcome. As the OP said in his original post there are several junctions on that stretch and "curves" quite a bit.
So perhaps instead of thinking of your own slight inconvenience think of those who are working on the motorway.
So perhaps instead of thinking of your own slight inconvenience think of those who are working on the motorway.
Edited by Drumroll on Friday 23 February 09:10
Drumroll said:
As somebody who may be working on that section of the M621, I think it's quite welcome. As the OP said in his original post there are several junctions on that stretch and "curves" quite a bit.
So perhaps instead of thinking of your own slight inconvenience think of those who are working on the motorway.
Hmm so how is 30 so much safer than 50 on a motorway? So maybe next time you guys work on a residential road cut the speed limit to 10mph.So perhaps instead of thinking of your own slight inconvenience think of those who are working on the motorway.
Edited by Drumroll on Friday 23 February 09:10
Is there like a guideline that you guys use to cut all the damn speed limits by 20 mph.
if the actual crash barriers are being replaced with concrete barriers with workers there - they will have little if no protection from cars/lorries only a few feet away so it does sound sensible to have the speed right down whilst they are working there.
On some locations you see the concrete barriers and I recall reading that they have a much higher "resistance" factor then the metal ones.
Does the uk use these zipper vans? they look great.
https://youtu.be/dl0Q2bDnBUc?t=31s
https://youtu.be/hMkLcAstxgA
On some locations you see the concrete barriers and I recall reading that they have a much higher "resistance" factor then the metal ones.
Does the uk use these zipper vans? they look great.
https://youtu.be/dl0Q2bDnBUc?t=31s
https://youtu.be/hMkLcAstxgA
Drumroll said:
As somebody who may be working on that section of the M621, I think it's quite welcome. As the OP said in his original post there are several junctions on that stretch and "curves" quite a bit.
So perhaps instead of thinking of your own slight inconvenience think of those who are working on the motorway.
Get a grip, 30mph ffs.So perhaps instead of thinking of your own slight inconvenience think of those who are working on the motorway.
Edited by Drumroll on Friday 23 February 09:10
TX.
captainaverage said:
Drumroll said:
As somebody who may be working on that section of the M621, I think it's quite welcome. As the OP said in his original post there are several junctions on that stretch and "curves" quite a bit.
So perhaps instead of thinking of your own slight inconvenience think of those who are working on the motorway.
Hmm so how is 30 so much safer than 50 on a motorway? So maybe next time you guys work on a residential road cut the speed limit to 10mph.So perhaps instead of thinking of your own slight inconvenience think of those who are working on the motorway.
Edited by Drumroll on Friday 23 February 09:10
Is there like a guideline that you guys use to cut all the damn speed limits by 20 mph.
Because there are a number of people who deem themselves immune from danger and therefore defy traffic regulations at all times drop the speed limit in roadworks to 30mph less than the limit you first estimate is required.
This will go some way to protect the workforce but note, some t
ts will still charge through well in excess of any limit you set. kingswood said:
be cheaper to the economy to leave it at 70mph and then pay out when theres a fatality in the work force.
everything has its price, have you not seen fight club?
everything has its price, have you not seen fight club?
captainaverage said:
Hmm so how is 30 so much safer than 50 on a motorway? So maybe next time you guys work on a residential road cut the speed limit to 10mph.
Is there like a guideline that you guys use to cut all the damn speed limits by 20 mph.
Has someone crossposted this to the Mensa forums again?Is there like a guideline that you guys use to cut all the damn speed limits by 20 mph.
ghe13rte said:
I think that the guidance should be a lot simpler than it is. Something like:
Because there are a number of people who deem themselves immune from danger and therefore defy traffic regulations at all times drop the speed limit in roadworks to 30mph less than the limit you first estimate is required.
This will go some way to protect the workforce but note, some tts will still charge through well in excess of any limit you set.
40 mph limit takeaway 20 mph takeaway 30 mph = -10 mph. Nice I'll just reverse then. Because there are a number of people who deem themselves immune from danger and therefore defy traffic regulations at all times drop the speed limit in roadworks to 30mph less than the limit you first estimate is required.
This will go some way to protect the workforce but note, some t
ts will still charge through well in excess of any limit you set. Why do you sound so angry mate?
superlightr said:
if the actual crash barriers are being replaced with concrete barriers with workers there - they will have little if no protection from cars/lorries only a few feet away so it does sound sensible to have the speed right down whilst they are working there.
On some locations you see the concrete barriers and I recall reading that they have a much higher "resistance" factor then the metal ones.
Does the uk use these zipper vans? they look great.
https://youtu.be/dl0Q2bDnBUc?t=31s
https://youtu.be/hMkLcAstxgA
Well yeah if it's central barrier i.e bang on middle of the road then 50 mph might be too much but if as usual no workers around then 30 mph is too little. On some locations you see the concrete barriers and I recall reading that they have a much higher "resistance" factor then the metal ones.
Does the uk use these zipper vans? they look great.
https://youtu.be/dl0Q2bDnBUc?t=31s
https://youtu.be/hMkLcAstxgA
captainaverage said:
ghe13rte said:
I think that the guidance should be a lot simpler than it is. Something like:
Because there are a number of people who deem themselves immune from danger and therefore defy traffic regulations at all times drop the speed limit in roadworks to 30mph less than the limit you first estimate is required.
This will go some way to protect the workforce but note, some tts will still charge through well in excess of any limit you set.
40 mph limit takeaway 20 mph takeaway 30 mph = -10 mph. Nice I'll just reverse then. Because there are a number of people who deem themselves immune from danger and therefore defy traffic regulations at all times drop the speed limit in roadworks to 30mph less than the limit you first estimate is required.
This will go some way to protect the workforce but note, some t
ts will still charge through well in excess of any limit you set. Why do you sound so angry mate?
ghe13rte said:
Having taken a dive over a central motorway barrier to get out of the way of a driver who ignored the traffic management and speed limit while working on a motorway gives you a certain view. That view is the manipulation and defiance of simple traffic regulations by "those who know better" causes a requirement to legislate for those who see a lower speed limit to protect road workers as a major inconvenience. Try diving into the opposite carriageway of the M25 at 0200 and see how that polarizes you view.
and if I said maybe I might have gone across a three lane high speed road at around midnight and it didn't change my view much then? Although I might've realised how damn dark those roads are, that sh*t is scary. 
Anyway lowering a limit for central barrier work makes sense. Anything else is BS.
Terminator X said:
Drumroll said:
As somebody who may be working on that section of the M621, I think it's quite welcome. As the OP said in his original post there are several junctions on that stretch and "curves" quite a bit.
So perhaps instead of thinking of your own slight inconvenience think of those who are working on the motorway.
Get a grip, 30mph ffs.So perhaps instead of thinking of your own slight inconvenience think of those who are working on the motorway.
Edited by Drumroll on Friday 23 February 09:10
TX.
ghe13rte said:
captainaverage said:
ghe13rte said:
I think that the guidance should be a lot simpler than it is. Something like:
Because there are a number of people who deem themselves immune from danger and therefore defy traffic regulations at all times drop the speed limit in roadworks to 30mph less than the limit you first estimate is required.
This will go some way to protect the workforce but note, some tts will still charge through well in excess of any limit you set.
40 mph limit takeaway 20 mph takeaway 30 mph = -10 mph. Nice I'll just reverse then. Because there are a number of people who deem themselves immune from danger and therefore defy traffic regulations at all times drop the speed limit in roadworks to 30mph less than the limit you first estimate is required.
This will go some way to protect the workforce but note, some t
ts will still charge through well in excess of any limit you set. Why do you sound so angry mate?
Probably texting bored out of his mind at 30mph. Or just drifted off to sleep.
You really are full of s
teTravel on this section of road a couple of time a week when its not busy - any idea how "tolerant" the cameras are(?) as its really easy to drift over the 30mph limit, especially having spent the last 40 mins doing 70mph which messes with the perception of speed. Would say my speed today varied between 30-35mph but was no end of people easily passing so would guess they were doing 40+.
Will either set the limiter or cruise to 30mph next time and just hope that there isn't an endless stream of trucks catching up lol
Will either set the limiter or cruise to 30mph next time and just hope that there isn't an endless stream of trucks catching up lol
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