Swift Justice

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Sk00p

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3,961 posts

227 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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No messing about yikes



Edited by Sk00p on Friday 23 February 09:25

captainaverage

596 posts

87 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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Sk00p said:
No messing about :O

What's a sender unit? Why was his abs affected etc? Please explain what is going on? Thanks.

The test driver

1,171 posts

159 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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Sk00p said:
No messing about :O

WOW that's some sentence 10 years disqualified!

Obviously they take this type of offence extremely seriously.

Sk00p

Original Poster:

3,961 posts

227 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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Their last tweet about it probably covers it



Basically allows them to circumvent all the legislation around driving an HGV

superlightr

12,856 posts

263 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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any more details on the driver?

Sk00p

Original Poster:

3,961 posts

227 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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No idea, just been following it on Twitter the last couple of days. Surprised at how quick it was dealt with.

ghe13rte

1,860 posts

116 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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The sender unit is a gearbox sensor that transmits the vehicle motion to the tachograph.

It uses a magnetic effect to sense the motion of a rotating component in the gearbox that has a proportional relationship to wheel rotation.

When the vehicle is in motion that is recorded to the driver's record card in the tachograph.

Drivers can only drive for a certain number of hours and these are examined by DVSA from time-to-time at the roadside.

The sensor will be altered with the addition of what may be termed a by-pass circuit that is, mostly, difficult to detect.

Some operators will have these by-pass circuits fitted and drivers will be on the road for days without rest. I figure large goods vehicles and drivers are expensive to operate, as are aircraft. With aircraft they seldom stay on the ground for long so crews are changed so they can spend the vast majority of their working life in the air where they make money rather than cost money when parked up. Imagine the transport company having a similar idea but who are not willing to invest in a second driver...hey why not by-pass the tachograph and top the driver up with drugs to keep him awake? Why not indeed!

The driver turns the by-pass on and off to manipulate the driving record.

A 10-year ban is perhaps not long enough. Good to see the swift way it was dealt with though.

98elise

26,547 posts

161 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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ghe13rte said:
The sender unit is a gearbox sensor that transmits the vehicle motion to the tachograph.

It uses a magnetic effect to sense the motion of a rotating component in the gearbox that has a proportional relationship to wheel rotation.

When the vehicle is in motion that is recorded to the driver's record card in the tachograph.

Drivers can only drive for a certain number of hours and these are examined by DVSA from time-to-time at the roadside.

The sensor will be altered with the addition of what may be termed a by-pass circuit that is, mostly, difficult to detect.

Some operators will have these by-pass circuits fitted and drivers will be on the road for days without rest. I figure large goods vehicles and drivers are expensive to operate, as are aircraft. With aircraft they seldom stay on the ground for long so crews are changed so they can spend the vast majority of their working life in the air where they make money rather than cost money when parked up. Imagine the transport company having a similar idea but who are not willing to invest in a second driver...hey why not by-pass the tachograph and top the driver up with drugs to keep him awake? Why not indeed!

The driver turns the by-pass on and off to manipulate the driving record.

A 10-year ban is perhaps not long enough. Good to see the swift way it was dealt with though.
Thanks for that, most of us wouldn't have a clue what crime has been committed!



Plug Life

978 posts

91 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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What about the murdered prostitutes?

TartanPaint

2,988 posts

139 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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Plug Life said:
What about the murdered prostitutes?
I checked twitter; as of 10:40am they're still dead.

esxste

3,682 posts

106 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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TartanPaint said:
I checked twitter; as of 10:40am they're still dead.
Please, keep us updated! wink

Prizam

2,335 posts

141 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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Anyone remember the 80's? I guess its a miracle that the human race survived!

Coppers tweeting this kind of guff and making a big social media thing out of it, plus the sentencing suggests he has been made one hell of an example of.

I don't think what he did was a good idea, but banned for 10 years and a jail sentence for trying to make a few extra quid? Seems a little excessive when aggravated burglary seems to get no interest at all.

HantsRat

2,369 posts

108 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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Prizam said:
Anyone remember the 80's? I guess its a miracle that the human race survived!

Coppers tweeting this kind of guff and making a big social media thing out of it, plus the sentencing suggests he has been made one hell of an example of.

I don't think what he did was a good idea, but banned for 10 years and a jail sentence for trying to make a few extra quid? Seems a little excessive when aggravated burglary seems to get no interest at all.
It's 3 separate fraud offence. Not a simple road traffic offence.

ghe13rte

1,860 posts

116 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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Prizam said:
Anyone remember the 80's? I guess its a miracle that the human race survived!

Coppers tweeting this kind of guff and making a big social media thing out of it, plus the sentencing suggests he has been made one hell of an example of.

I don't think what he did was a good idea, but banned for 10 years and a jail sentence for trying to make a few extra quid? Seems a little excessive when aggravated burglary seems to get no interest at all.
Maybe you would have a different view if said driver was off his tits on amphetamine and had just driven a 40-tonner over some of your family. Hey-Ho, what's the point of prevention...why not just lock these guys up after they have killed a dozen people in their quest for a few extra quid.

hutchst

3,699 posts

96 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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superlightr said:
any more details on the driver?
Apparently he's practicing picking up his soap using his toes.

ghe13rte

1,860 posts

116 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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HantsRat said:
It's 3 separate fraud offence. Not a simple road traffic offence.
Good shot HantsRat. Well done to DVSA too.

Prizam

2,335 posts

141 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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ghe13rte said:
Maybe you would have a different view if said driver was off his tits on amphetamine and had just driven a 40-tonner over some of your family. Hey-Ho, what's the point of prevention...why not just lock these guys up after they have killed a dozen people in their quest for a few extra quid.
Didnt say it was right, i said it was disproportionate and he was being made an example of.

Pilots who turn up drunk get less.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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Prizam said:
Anyone remember the 80's? I guess its a miracle that the human race survived!
Lots more people died on the roads in the 1980. Increased regulation has helped reduce those deaths.

Prizam said:
Coppers tweeting this kind of guff and making a big social media thing out of it, plus the sentencing suggests he has been made one hell of an example of.
How does it fit with the sentencing guidelines? Surely you'd need to know that to conclude whether or not he's been made 'an example of'.

Prizam said:
I don't think what he did was a good idea, but banned for 10 years and a jail sentence for trying to make a few extra quid? Seems a little excessive when aggravated burglary seems to get no interest at all.
Aggravated burglary has a rather higher detection rate than 'technical' HGV offences...



Elroy Blue

8,687 posts

192 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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I'm more surprised they actually managed to get through to CPS

captainaverage

596 posts

87 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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ghe13rte said:
The sender unit is a gearbox sensor that transmits the vehicle motion to the tachograph.

It uses a magnetic effect to sense the motion of a rotating component in the gearbox that has a proportional relationship to wheel rotation.

When the vehicle is in motion that is recorded to the driver's record card in the tachograph.

Drivers can only drive for a certain number of hours and these are examined by DVSA from time-to-time at the roadside.

The sensor will be altered with the addition of what may be termed a by-pass circuit that is, mostly, difficult to detect.

Some operators will have these by-pass circuits fitted and drivers will be on the road for days without rest. I figure large goods vehicles and drivers are expensive to operate, as are aircraft. With aircraft they seldom stay on the ground for long so crews are changed so they can spend the vast majority of their working life in the air where they make money rather than cost money when parked up. Imagine the transport company having a similar idea but who are not willing to invest in a second driver...hey why not by-pass the tachograph and top the driver up with drugs to keep him awake? Why not indeed!

The driver turns the by-pass on and off to manipulate the driving record.

A 10-year ban is perhaps not long enough. Good to see the swift way it was dealt with though.
Cheers mate didn't know that smile