Notice to quit
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Just been informed I will be receiving a notice to quit a rented property - does anyone know if the landlord needs to have a valid reason to issue this or if it can be sent for any/no reason at all?
His justification in this case is that he wants to rent the property to someone else. This is after I've been the tenant for nearly 10 years.
I've got no interest in playing silly buggers, I want to get out asap, but right now the thought of finding somewhere new and moving within 8 weeks is a bit worrying.
His justification in this case is that he wants to rent the property to someone else. This is after I've been the tenant for nearly 10 years.
I've got no interest in playing silly buggers, I want to get out asap, but right now the thought of finding somewhere new and moving within 8 weeks is a bit worrying.
He will most likely have decided he can get more per month from someone new than a faithful tenant who has been there a while and looked after the property.
I am lucky myself and my partner have rented the same property for 9 years, we have had 2 increases in rent in this time, we never see or speak to the landlady she has popped round occasionally but as she owns 12-15 properties I hear some of her tenants are nightmares.
Your landlord may regret this decision in the long run!!
I am lucky myself and my partner have rented the same property for 9 years, we have had 2 increases in rent in this time, we never see or speak to the landlady she has popped round occasionally but as she owns 12-15 properties I hear some of her tenants are nightmares.
Your landlord may regret this decision in the long run!!
xjay1337 said:
Landlords are either really nice or complete assholes.
Same as tenants. I've had some great ones and some right a
holes.One on housing benefit and only personally contributing £30 per month asked if we could reduce the rent by said £30 as she was struggling- all said whilst showing off her tan from her latest Spanish holiday
One who couldn't make rent one month but could apparently still afford to smoke enough weed for us to get letters from other people in the block
One, an Essex copper, having the door kicked in by the met.
And our current tenant who seems to destroy white goods on a regular basis, so far replaced washer, dryer, fridge freezer and oven.
I dream of a long term pleasant tenant
A205GTI said:
He will most likely have decided he can get more per month from someone new than a faithful tenant who has been there a while and looked after the property.
He'll regret that if true. I've had the same lady in for 10 years. I think over that period the rent has increased by £50. She's been no bother at all, so she can enjoy the benefit of cheaper rent than most in the area as far as I'm concerned.keirik said:
Same as tenants. I've had some great ones and some right aholes.
One on housing benefit and only personally contributing £30 per month asked if we could reduce the rent by said £30 as she was struggling- all said whilst showing off her tan from her latest Spanish holiday
One who couldn't make rent one month but could apparently still afford to smoke enough weed for us to get letters from other people in the block
One, an Essex copper, having the door kicked in by the met.
And our current tenant who seems to destroy white goods on a regular basis, so far replaced washer, dryer, fridge freezer and oven.
I dream of a long term pleasant tenant
I used to manage 6000 rental properties and agree wholeheartedly, a good tenant is worthwhile holding on to. However, they can be almost invisible because they cause you no problems and therefore you don't realise how lucky you are. A big landlord gets a skewed view of their tenants because they only ever have to deal with the awkward ones. When we actually analysed staff to tenant contact, we only ever dealt with less than 5% on a regular basis. I occasionally came across someone who I found out was a tenant but that I'd never met in over 10 years as their landlord. holes.One on housing benefit and only personally contributing £30 per month asked if we could reduce the rent by said £30 as she was struggling- all said whilst showing off her tan from her latest Spanish holiday
One who couldn't make rent one month but could apparently still afford to smoke enough weed for us to get letters from other people in the block
One, an Essex copper, having the door kicked in by the met.
And our current tenant who seems to destroy white goods on a regular basis, so far replaced washer, dryer, fridge freezer and oven.
I dream of a long term pleasant tenant
OP, I'd guess that either(as someone said earlier) they've realised they can get more money from an unknown quantity (foolish in my opinion) or if they are a small scale operation, have a friend or relative in need of the house. If its the latter, you've little chance of changing their minds. If its the former, try speaking to them and have a go at showing them the error of their ways.
You're better off away if that's his attitude IMO. If I could get a good tenant in for a long term I'd see no point in increasing the rent, any gains I'm sure are lost in the faff of freshening up the place and the risks of getting in unknowns. Yes they pay more but what extra costs will they bring with them...
mikecassie said:
You're better off away if that's his attitude IMO. If I could get a good tenant in for a long term I'd see no point in increasing the rent, any gains I'm sure are lost in the faff of freshening up the place and the risks of getting in unknowns. Yes they pay more but what extra costs will they bring with them...
My thoughts exactly.The only reason is maybe its a relative who friend who needs the place.
Had tenants for 5 years who other than the broke the old garage door (was a bit tired and I was careful for 4 years with it) in the first month, but have been great.
They got a friend to do me a cracking deal on new windows as the old timber double glazing was past it.
So I don't increase their rent just keep them happy.
On flip side mother in law has foriegn couple and the lady won't answer the door to anyone without her husband. They ruined the the dishwasher blocked all the drains pouring fat down them. First time I gave them the benefit of doubt and paid to jet them. Second time I said they would have to pay or sort the issue themselves.
Mother in law spent a few quid putting black out blinds on all the windows. The tenants in the first 3 months ripped them down to be and net style curtains installed.
brrapp said:
OP, I'd guess that either(as someone said earlier) they've realised they can get more money from an unknown quantity (foolish in my opinion) or if they are a small scale operation, have a friend or relative in need of the house. If its the latter, you've little chance of changing their minds. If its the former, try speaking to them and have a go at showing them the error of their ways.
In answer to the original question, yes, they can ask thier tenants to leave without a reason (providing it is all done legally), but you have to ask yourself - why would they?The above post by "brrapp" sums it up perfectly - speak to them.
Thanks for the advice everyone, it is appreciated.
Spoke to the lettings agent earlier and they are hand delivering the notice to quit this afternoon. The landlord will be renting the place to one of his employees, so while there may be some flexibility on the notice, there's no chance of changing his mind.
I am gutted about it. Obviously it's one of the risks of renting, but after this amount of time it feels like 'my home' has been ripped away from me.
Spoke to the lettings agent earlier and they are hand delivering the notice to quit this afternoon. The landlord will be renting the place to one of his employees, so while there may be some flexibility on the notice, there's no chance of changing his mind.
I am gutted about it. Obviously it's one of the risks of renting, but after this amount of time it feels like 'my home' has been ripped away from me.
If it's a section 21 notice, then it's not 8 weeks, it's not even two calendar months - it's two calendar months from your next rent day.
That's when he can start possession proceedings against you - and they take months to get to court and be granted. ASSUMING (and it's often not the case) the s21 is actually valid. If he didn't protect your deposit, didn't issue you the protection paperwork, isn't on top of gas safety etc... then it's not valid, and you're there as long as you want to be or until he does get his ducks in a row.
I'm presuming the "want to rent to somebody else" is actually "want to rent to somebody paying more".
That's when he can start possession proceedings against you - and they take months to get to court and be granted. ASSUMING (and it's often not the case) the s21 is actually valid. If he didn't protect your deposit, didn't issue you the protection paperwork, isn't on top of gas safety etc... then it's not valid, and you're there as long as you want to be or until he does get his ducks in a row.
I'm presuming the "want to rent to somebody else" is actually "want to rent to somebody paying more".
TooMany2cvs said:
If it's a section 21 notice, then it's not 8 weeks, it's not even two calendar months - it's two calendar months from your next rent day.
That's when he can start possession proceedings against you - and they take months to get to court and be granted. ASSUMING (and it's often not the case) the s21 is actually valid. If he didn't protect your deposit, didn't issue you the protection paperwork, isn't on top of gas safety etc... then it's not valid, and you're there as long as you want to be or until he does get his ducks in a row.
I'm presuming the "want to rent to somebody else" is actually "want to rent to somebody paying more".
Instead of presuming, just read the post directly above yours That's when he can start possession proceedings against you - and they take months to get to court and be granted. ASSUMING (and it's often not the case) the s21 is actually valid. If he didn't protect your deposit, didn't issue you the protection paperwork, isn't on top of gas safety etc... then it's not valid, and you're there as long as you want to be or until he does get his ducks in a row.
I'm presuming the "want to rent to somebody else" is actually "want to rent to somebody paying more".
killerferret666 said:
A205GTI said:
He will most likely have decided he can get more per month from someone new than a faithful tenant who has been there a while and looked after the property.
He'll regret that if true. I've had the same lady in for 10 years. I think over that period the rent has increased by £50. She's been no bother at all, so she can enjoy the benefit of cheaper rent than most in the area as far as I'm concerned.OK, the section 21 (1) (B) has arrived. Notice is precisely two calendar months from the date the letter is legally deemed to have been served.
The thing I'm confused about now is whether I'm on a fixed term or periodic tenancy. I signed up for a year initially, never signed anything else and have been paying monthly ever since, so I assume it's periodic. In which case TM2CVs is right, it should be two months from the next rental period, which starts 10th April, and would give me a handy extra couple of weeks.
If however I am on a fixed term, it looks like the notice should run until the end of that, which is July.
Either way, I'm now officially house hunting.
The thing I'm confused about now is whether I'm on a fixed term or periodic tenancy. I signed up for a year initially, never signed anything else and have been paying monthly ever since, so I assume it's periodic. In which case TM2CVs is right, it should be two months from the next rental period, which starts 10th April, and would give me a handy extra couple of weeks.
If however I am on a fixed term, it looks like the notice should run until the end of that, which is July.
Either way, I'm now officially house hunting.
Spumfry said:
The thing I'm confused about now is whether I'm on a fixed term or periodic tenancy. I signed up for a year initially, never signed anything else and have been paying monthly ever since, so I assume it's periodic.
Yep, statutory periodic.Spumfry said:
If however I am on a fixed term, it looks like the notice should run until the end of that, which is July.
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