Police cutbacks what a joke

[CoolHands]

If they only cost 14p why not give them out rather than fine them 200 quid.

[Red 4]

vonhosen said:

Why should a freeman of the land have to!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bit unfair that.

Have you been at the lighter fluid again ? (Buy yourself a sticker - that'll sort you out).

[carinaman]

If it was one of those joint operations with partner agencies there may have been enough of them to recover the SelfGene's stolen motorcycle. That may have been a bit of a triumph for the thin blue line.

I wonder if there's a 'No Smoking' sticker up in that communal area?

[Rovinghawk]

Greendubber said:

rovinghawk said:

Let's focus on important stuff and disregard the petty, pointless items regardless of the wonderful income stream they provide the council or whatever other parasites are extracting huge amounts of money where they could just issue a sticker & charge a few quid for it.

I note that I could get convicted of theft, assault, etc and get a lesser penalty than for a petty administrative oversight.

I'm sure plenty of other offences were dealt with on the day.

I've not done one for a few years now but VOSA, local authorities, customs and the police took loads of unroadworthy vehicles off the road, locked up some wanted people and dealt with all manner of offences.

It was almost like shooting fish in a barrel.

We're not discussing what might or might not have been done in similar exercises elsewhere - we're discussing stopping someone to check whether they have a pointless little sign and fining them hundreds of pounds for not having one. Jobsworth parasitism at its worst, regardless of which authority the jobsworths work for.

[EazyDuz]

Good on them, smoking is a filthy habit and the more warnings the better.

[Greendubber]

Rovinghawk said:

Greendubber said:

rovinghawk said:

Let's focus on important stuff and disregard the petty, pointless items regardless of the wonderful income stream they provide the council or whatever other parasites are extracting huge amounts of money where they could just issue a sticker & charge a few quid for it.

I note that I could get convicted of theft, assault, etc and get a lesser penalty than for a petty administrative oversight.

I'm sure plenty of other offences were dealt with on the day.

I've not done one for a few years now but VOSA, local authorities, customs and the police took loads of unroadworthy vehicles off the road, locked up some wanted people and dealt with all manner of offences.

It was almost like shooting fish in a barrel.

We're not discussing what might or might not have been done in similar exercises elsewhere - we're discussing stopping someone to check whether they have a pointless little sign and fining them hundreds of pounds for not having one. Jobsworth parasitism at its worst, regardless of which authority the jobsworths work for.

Which could all have been easily avoided.....

[creampuff]

Greendubber said:

Which could all have been easily avoided.....

This hapless camper picked up a brand new van...... and was given a £200 fine for no 'no-smoking' sticker.

Maybe the van dealer could put 'no-smoking' stickers in the accessory catalogue?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2272356/Va...

[creampuff]

EazyDuz said:

Good on them, smoking is a filthy habit and the more warnings the better.

Yes, I look forward to the day when babies are tattooed with 'no smoking' signs shortly after birth. Can't have too much enforcement or too many reminders.

[vonhosen]

creampuff said:

Greendubber said:

Which could all have been easily avoided.....

This hapless camper picked up a brand new van...... and was given a £200 fine for no 'no-smoking' sticker.

Maybe the van dealer could put 'no-smoking' stickers in the accessory catalogue?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2272356/Va...

When I got my new one, I knew I needed a GB marker on the Reg plate as I intended to go abroad with it. Being a responsible adult I asked the dealer to ensure that they fitted a plate with a GB marker (they didn't as a matter of course on new plates).

<Cool story.>

[Greendubber]

creampuff said:

Greendubber said:

Which could all have been easily avoided.....

This hapless camper picked up a brand new van...... and was given a £200 fine for no 'no-smoking' sticker.

Maybe the van dealer could put 'no-smoking' stickers in the accessory catalogue?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2272356/Va...

Ignorance is not a defence in law.

[4x4Tyke]

Greendubber said:

creampuff said:

This hapless camper picked up a brand new van...... and was given a £200 fine for no 'no-smoking' sticker.

Maybe the van dealer could put 'no-smoking' stickers in the accessory catalogue?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2272356/Va...

Ignorance is not a defence in law.

That includes dealers, you'd expect the vehicle they provide to be legal.

In this case it was coming from the sign writers, where adding a free sticker at trivial cost would be a great customer service.

[EazyDuz]

creampuff said:

Yes, I look forward to the day when babies are tattooed with 'no smoking' signs shortly after birth. Can't have too much enforcement or too many reminders.

Well if the baby is caught smoking it would be a good idea and a worthy punishment.

[Greendubber]

4x4Tyke said:

Greendubber said:

creampuff said:

This hapless camper picked up a brand new van...... and was given a £200 fine for no 'no-smoking' sticker.

Maybe the van dealer could put 'no-smoking' stickers in the accessory catalogue?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2272356/Va...

Ignorance is not a defence in law.

That includes dealers, you'd expect the vehicle they provide to be legal.

In this case it was coming from the sign writers, where adding a free sticker at trivial cost would be a great customer service.

On that same thought, should dealers fit hands telephone kits to every vehicle?

How about a speed limiter you can't turn off as well?

[nonsequitur]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

Steady on, chap. We are not all grammatical Genusoise.!?

[carinaman]

Should motorcycle dealers within 100 miles of London be forced to fit new motorcycles with trackers so the police, or other partner organisations, can find them should they be stolen?

[Red 4]

carinaman said:

Should motorcycle dealers within 100 miles of London be forced to fit new motorcycles with trackers so the police, or other partner organisations, can find them should they be stolen?

No.

But a No Smoking sticker on a bike would be useful, along with a ban on ashtrays.

[NGee]

carinaman said:

Should motorcycle dealers within 100 miles of London be forced to fit new motorcycles with trackers so the police, or other partner organisations, can find them should they be stolen?

No point, even when they've got trackers the police still won't/can't do anything.

[Greendubber]

NGee said:

carinaman said:

Should motorcycle dealers within 100 miles of London be forced to fit new motorcycles with trackers so the police, or other partner organisations, can find them should they be stolen?

No point, even when they've got trackers the police still won't/can't do anything.

And if you read the thread about the tracker it wasn't about not wanting to do anything. It was explained time and time again that they need to follow the correct legal process.

A point seemingly ignored repeatedly on this forum.

[NGee]

Greendubber said:

NGee said:

carinaman said:

Should motorcycle dealers within 100 miles of London be forced to fit new motorcycles with trackers so the police, or other partner organisations, can find them should they be stolen?

No point, even when they've got trackers the police still won't/can't do anything.

And if you read the thread about the tracker it wasn't about not wanting to do anything. It was explained time and time again that they need to follow the correct legal process.

A point seemingly ignored repeatedly on this forum.

Yes I know, and that is why, if you read my post you would see I said won't/can't do anything.

I am well aware the police can't just go charging around doing what they want to (although I do feel very sorry for the bike owner). I was just pointing out that a tracker does not neccesarily assist in finding a bike should it be stolen.

I was also being slightly tongue in cheek as I assume the original post I was replying to wasn't actually being serious.

[vonhosen]

NGee said:

Greendubber said:

NGee said:

carinaman said:

Should motorcycle dealers within 100 miles of London be forced to fit new motorcycles with trackers so the police, or other partner organisations, can find them should they be stolen?

No point, even when they've got trackers the police still won't/can't do anything.

And if you read the thread about the tracker it wasn't about not wanting to do anything. It was explained time and time again that they need to follow the correct legal process.

A point seemingly ignored repeatedly on this forum.

Yes I know, and that is why, if you read my post you would see I said won't/can't do anything.

I am well aware the police can't just go charging around doing what they want to (although I do feel very sorry for the bike owner). I was just pointing out that a tracker does not neccesarily assist in finding a bike should it be stolen.

I was also being slightly tongue in cheek as I assume the original post I was replying to wasn't actually being serious.

Some trackers are better (more reliably accurate) than others. It depends on the technology they use & the circumstances of where the bike is believed to be.
The evidence suggests that if you do have a tracker you do considerably increase your likelihood of recovery.
Research before you buy.