Do weight restrictions apply to buses and coaches?

Do weight restrictions apply to buses and coaches?

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Ranger 6

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7,052 posts

249 months

Friday 25th May 2018
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As the title says; Do weight restrictions apply to buses and coaches?

Say for example a 7.5 ton restriction, which is not on a bus route - could an out of service vehicle have an exemption to pass through the restriction? A bridge in this case.

The restriction is quite well signposted at the bridge and at the entrance to the road.

ShampooEfficient

4,267 posts

211 months

Friday 25th May 2018
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No, if its got a picture of a lorry with 7.5T or whatever written within it.

Ranger 6

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7,052 posts

249 months

Friday 25th May 2018
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Yes, that's the sign

Ranger 6

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7,052 posts

249 months

Friday 25th May 2018
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Useful - thanks

I can't find the TRO so not able to check the exemptions and there aren't any 'except for access' additions.

gus607

917 posts

136 months

Friday 25th May 2018
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Funnily enough I was a passenger on a coach today & saw the same thing, 7.5T weight limit but our coach, 10 ton-ish drove straight through, perfectly legal.

grumpy52

5,580 posts

166 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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Many 7.5t restrictions are in place simply to stop HGVs using the route as a "rat run " .
Often a short cut to factories or industrial areas and retail parks .Restrictions for weight limits for bridges tend to apply to all .
If the restriction applied to all over a given weight it often also has a width limit .
Another load of stuff truck and bus drivers have to look out for . As in all things some drivers adhere to them more than others .

Ranger 6

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Sunday 27th May 2018
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grumpy52 said:
...Restrictions for weight limits for bridges tend to apply to all.
Yes, I hope so.

If I could find the TRO then I can look at the detail - RBWM don't appear to have it on their list though.

jamei303

3,002 posts

156 months

Sunday 27th May 2018
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It's ridiculous that before complying with certain road signs you need to pay a visit to the archives in the basement of the local council to check the TRO.

grumpy52

5,580 posts

166 months

Monday 28th May 2018
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In some areas buses and coaches are allowed into weight limited areas .
They usually have a plate below the sign , ie except Passenger Vehicles , or the one that causes more confusion , except for access.

Ranger 6

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7,052 posts

249 months

Tuesday 17th July 2018
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Finally got the TRO. No, the buses and coaches don't have an exemption on this one.

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

261 months

Tuesday 17th July 2018
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At one time buses couldn't go over Marlow bridge with passengers due to the weight limit. All the passengers would get off and walk beside the bus to the other side of the bridge, perfectly legal.

vonhosen

40,233 posts

217 months

Tuesday 17th July 2018
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Ranger 6 said:
Finally got the TRO. No, the buses and coaches don't have an exemption on this one.
Thought you said the sign was a 7.5t goods vehicle restriction sign & not a weight restriction sign.
If it's a goods vehicle restriction sign they wouldn't need a written exemption because the sign wouldn't apply to them.

Ranger 6

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249 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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Interesting, thanks
What’s the difference between a goods vehicle restriction and a weight restriction sign?

Also, does a polo pony truck have to comply? I.e. not strictly a goods vehicle?

vonhosen

40,233 posts

217 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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Ranger 6 said:
Interesting, thanks
What’s the difference between a goods vehicle restriction and a weight restriction sign?

Also, does a polo pony truck have to comply? I.e. not strictly a goods vehicle?
The goods vehicle restriction will have a picture of a goods vehicle on it with the weight restriction, a general restriction will have the weight limit & no goods vehicle on sign.
Polo pony truck will be a goods vehicle.

Bandit110

298 posts

104 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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Ranger 6 said:
Yes, I hope so.

If I could find the TRO then I can look at the detail - RBWM don't appear to have it on their list though.
What is TRO and RBWM? why not just post whatever it stands for?

Cat

3,020 posts

269 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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Bandit110 said:
What is TRO and RBWM? why not just post whatever it stands for?
FYI
TRO - Traffic Regulation Order
RBWM - Royal Borough of Windsor and Maidenhead
CBA?
HTH
TTFN

Cat

Bandit110

298 posts

104 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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Cat said:
FYI
TRO - Traffic Regulation Order
RBWM - Royal Borough of Windsor and Maidenhead
CBA?
HTH
TTFN

Cat
Thanks, I feel totally stupid for not knowing those

speedking31

3,556 posts

136 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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In the Highway Code, it's interesting that for weight limits the sign with a lorry specifies "No goods vehicles", but for length, and using the same symbol, the restriction states "vehicles".

jamei303

3,002 posts

156 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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Weight restriction signs with a lorry only apply to goods vehicles:



So where the limit is due to a weak road you'll get the m.g.w. prohibition:



I wonder why this bridge is only weak for goods vehicles - I guess you can't expect local council highways officers to know what they're doing: