Insurance cancelled after 1 week

Insurance cancelled after 1 week

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HarveyM

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154 posts

173 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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Hi folks. Long time lurker and infrequent poster. Not been around for a while so apologies if this has been covered recently. I need to vent a bit, too.

My 17 year old daughter passed her test last week and took out a telematics insurance policy on the car she’d bought to learn in. All good so far.

Today she sent a message to say she’d received an e-mail that her insurance was being cancelled due to her driving style. She’s been a bit cagey but it looks like she’s been going too fast and too often. No excuses, I’m glad she’s had the wake-up call. (She doesn’t live with me, so I haven’t been out with her much but when I did she was slow & cautious).

I assume it’s unlikely the underwriters will rescind the cancellation no matter how remorseful she is.

She’s tried to get a new policy online and is being quoted £9k. I’m a mere mortal and would need to sell a kidney for that sort of money so my assistance is purely advisory.

Any constructive suggestions on how we can overcome this? I would like her to keep on the road (safely) and keep learning and improving her skills. Please - no righteous comments. She’s facing a tough lesson but to gain and lose driving freedom in a week is a harsh one.

Thanks.


SteBrown91

2,384 posts

129 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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Unfortunately she now has an insurance cancellation marker against her name. There isn’t really a lot you can do about it.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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You could insure her as a named driver on a car that you own?

You would have to be the registered keeper and she couldn’t be the main driver to avoid fronting but it would keep her on the road.

Edited to say I’m not sure if this would be any cheaper but worth a go I guess. Good luck.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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Faz50 said:
You could insure her as a named driver on a car that you own?

You would have to be the registered keeper and she couldn’t be the main driver to avoid fronting but it would keep her on the road.
Given that she lives elsewhere, I can't see how it could be anything but fronting, really.

996Keef

435 posts

91 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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14 day cooling off period?

HarveyM

Original Poster:

154 posts

173 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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996Keef said:
14 day cooling off period?
Cancel on her side before the cancellation on their side kicks in? Worth asking the broker! I haven’t seen the policy myself.

996Keef

435 posts

91 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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Yes, anything's better than having to answer YES to "ever had insurance declined, cancelled, refused or voided?"

That said,you've gotta wonder what she did...





anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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If it's a ' fair cop' and her driving really is so bad you should seriously consider doing everything you can to prevent her driving for a bit.


996Keef

435 posts

91 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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i doubt theyll be cancelling it anyway , probably a warning shot thats she's half-read after the first 160 characters. Kids...

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
Given that she lives elsewhere, I can't see how it could be anything but fronting, really.
Was thinking along the lines of op wanting to keep her learning etc. She would be insured, covered for him to accompany once in a while and for her to use the car sparingly. As long as there was no regular use then not fronting.


Funk

26,274 posts

209 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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996Keef said:
i doubt theyll be cancelling it anyway , probably a warning shot thats she's half-read after the first 160 characters. Kids...
I was lead to believe there are warnings first too.

Pica-Pica

13,780 posts

84 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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Have I got this correct? She has had insurance for the week since she passed her test, and in that week the insurance have had enough details about her driving that they are cancelling. What has she been doing, is a NIP or two (and 6 points) likely in the post?

HarveyM

Original Poster:

154 posts

173 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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Funk said:
I was lead to believe there are warnings first too.
Apparently not - she thought this was grossly unfair. Perhaps her driving style was past the threshold of “just a warning”.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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HarveyM said:
Apparently not - she thought this was grossly unfair. Perhaps her driving style was past the threshold of “just a warning”.
I doubt you are getting the true story

HarveyM

Original Poster:

154 posts

173 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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Pica-Pica said:
Have I got this correct? She has had insurance for the week since she passed her test, and in that week the insurance have had enough details about her driving that they are cancelling. What has she been doing, is a NIP or two (and 6 points) likely in the post?
I don’t think she’s been past any speed cameras.

If she lost her licence from speeding then she’d get little sympathy from me but at least she could retake her test and obtain insurance (albeit at a higher premium). A cancellation will count against her for a very long time.

Haltamer

2,455 posts

80 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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You won't be able to insure with her as a secondary driver either. If they see Parent primary and child seondary, the premium is raised accordingly to put people off - It's moore expensive than inuring the child as primary driver, especially considering the lack of any NCB Gain.

IMO, You're (She is) shafted unless you can cancel before they do; A friend I know was focrced to give up on cars after having insurance cancelled at 17 for and undeclared debadging mod discovered when fitting the box that had been done before purchase (Not that this makes any difference to the insurer)

Now has bikes instead, which are more affordable to insure...

HarveyM

Original Poster:

154 posts

173 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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desolate said:
I doubt you are getting the true story
You’re very likely correct. I am so disappointed in her, but also gutted for her too.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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Faz50 said:
TooMany2cvs said:
Given that she lives elsewhere, I can't see how it could be anything but fronting, really.
Was thinking along the lines of op wanting to keep her learning etc. She would be insured, covered for him to accompany once in a while and for her to use the car sparingly. As long as there was no regular use then not fronting.
I was reading "keep her on the road" and "lose driving freedom ... is a harsh one" as the OP wanting to ensure she still had transport available to her.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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HarveyM said:
desolate said:
I doubt you are getting the true story
You’re very likely correct. I am so disappointed in her, but also gutted for her too.
I'd try and read the letters if I were you.
It's pretty difficult to summarily cancel a policy like that.

maclarkk

2,622 posts

70 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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Hey OP,

Do you have further details like the insurer etc?

I’m not saying it’s impossible but it’s mad to think they can cancel after a week, especially considering they presumably need time to review the telematics data, compile a letter etc!

Not being an arse... but if this is the case and they are definitely cancelling intentionally, she must have done something totally mental, not just a bit of speeding!

Something doesn’t sound quite right to me sir.