drunk police driver no points
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pavarotti1980 said:
Contract Killer said:
I think the point is, us normal members of public would have recieved a nice hefty ban for being even slightly over the limit, let alone 4X.......
he got a 3 year ban as well. And will be sacked no doubt. Thats quite an accumulation of punishments ED209 said:
He will 100% get the sack if he hasn't already done the right thing and resigned.
I thought new police regs prevented resigning whilst disciplinary ongoing? Dark Star said:
Pothole said:
He'll be sacked after his sickness ends.
You would like to think so.But if he is in the lodge then the outcome could be different.
Bet he gets medical retirement if he declares himself an alcoholic.
Cold said:
Four times over the limit (149mg), suspended sentence, [b]no points or disqualification[b], 250 hours community service, £200 fine/vs.
Still employed by South Wales Police but is currently on “long-term sickness leave” .
Seems lenient but he is still able to drive to his unpaid work, at least. In this weather he'll need a drink after that.
The article says disqualified for 36 months.Still employed by South Wales Police but is currently on “long-term sickness leave” .
Seems lenient but he is still able to drive to his unpaid work, at least. In this weather he'll need a drink after that.
Cold said:
Four times over the limit (149mg), suspended sentence, no points or disqualification, 250 hours community service, £200 fine/vs.
Still employed by South Wales Police but is currently on “long-term sickness leave” .
Seems lenient but he is still able to drive to his unpaid work, at least. In this weather he'll need a drink after that.
What part of Disqualified for 36 months mean to you???Still employed by South Wales Police but is currently on “long-term sickness leave” .
Seems lenient but he is still able to drive to his unpaid work, at least. In this weather he'll need a drink after that.
And IIRC correctly if you get an ban over a certain length the points are not given, but i bow to wiser counsel
silverfoxcc said:
What part of Disqualified for 36 months mean to you???
And IIRC correctly if you get an ban over a certain length the points are not given, but i bow to wiser counsel
You won't get points if you get a ban. It's one or the other. But drink driving is just a ban (can get points for attempting and in charge). And IIRC correctly if you get an ban over a certain length the points are not given, but i bow to wiser counsel
anonymous said:
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Completely wrong.He is likely to have some service in the 1987 pension scheme - this will now be deferred until he is 60.
He may also have some accrued pension in the 2015 pension scheme, this will be deferred until state pension age.
This is deserved so don't think I'm defending him but the misconceptions around police pensions are quite staggering.
vonhosen said:
The article says disqualified for 36 months.
silverfoxcc said:
What part of Disqualified for 36 months mean to you???
It seems the Wales Online article in the OP has been edited since it was posted last night. The sub reads: Updated 11:45 19 Jul 2018.Well done for the sneering though.
baldy1926 said:
ED209 said:
He will 100% get the sack if he hasn't already done the right thing and resigned.
He will not be allowed to resign intil after his disclipine hearing where he will probably lose his pension. 
ks. I’d bet my pension that he won’t lose his..... Removal of pension accrual requires authorisation of the Home Office, and although they’re not exactly helping Plod at the moment, this privilege is reserved for the most serious cases. This will not be one of them.
Indeed, there are extremely limited circumstances in which a police officer can lose their pension.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2015/445/regula...
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2015/445/regula...
mbcx4jrh said:
I'm not happy with this idea that pensions can be 'lost'. Is it really a punitive need.?
If you accrue pension while upholding the law and it's found that you've broken the law seriously enough why shouldn't it be lost?The possibility of losing pension may serve as a disincentive to break the law or be corrupt?
No different from breaking the speed limit is it? You get caught you face the consequences.
'If you can't do the time don't do the crime'?
'If you don't want to jeopardise your pension don't conduct yourself like you're above the law'?
Contract Killer said:
Mandat said:
Are you suggesting that there is some sort of cover up?
A prison sentence (even suspended) plus community service is a lot harsher than points on a licence.
I think the point is, us normal members of public would have recieved a nice hefty ban for being even slightly over the limit, let alone 4X.......A prison sentence (even suspended) plus community service is a lot harsher than points on a licence.
carinaman said:
If you accrue pension while upholding the law and it's found that you've broken the law seriously enough why shouldn't it be lost?
The possibility of losing pension may serve as a disincentive to break the law or be corrupt?
No different from breaking the speed limit is it? You get caught you face the consequences.
'If you can't do the time don't do the crime'?
'If you don't want to jeopardise your pension don't conduct yourself like you're above the law'?
So you think the removal of a pension is appropriate? Obviously ban, loss of employment and a sentence community work and fine isn't enough. Oh don't forget his marriage broke down and one of his parents died. Warped sense of justice to then remove any pension he has too. At least if it does happen you seem more than happy to support him through the state be edit system instead The possibility of losing pension may serve as a disincentive to break the law or be corrupt?
No different from breaking the speed limit is it? You get caught you face the consequences.
'If you can't do the time don't do the crime'?
'If you don't want to jeopardise your pension don't conduct yourself like you're above the law'?
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