Is this inappropriate behavior?
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I was chatting to my sister last night and she was telling me my nephew has been suspended from Beavers for 'inappropriate behavior'. At Beavers a kid kicked him, so in retaliation he either punched or grabbed his genitals. The kid then went and got his sister for backup who also kicked him, again he either punched or grabbed her genitals. After speaking to him, my sister found out the week before in the playground another kid had kicked him in his genitals and she thinks this is where he got this idea from as she's not seen him do something like this before.
My sister said it was a parent helper who witnessed this and reported it as 'inappropriate behavior' hence the suspension. Personally I think this is the wrong call as I can't see any sexual element to what happened, the fact he tried the same trick on the girl shows his naivety regarding the birds and the bees. It wasn't something like show me yours and I'll show you mine. There's no doubt he was in the wrong by hitting them and if he had done the right thing and told on them they would have gotten in trouble and not him, my sister agrees with this too. But I've got the feeling if he had been hit on another pressure point the week before say a poke in the eye he would have done the same thing to them.
I think all three of the kids should have been punished for what is my mind was just a simple playground brawl, rather than my nephew getting suspended for 'inappropriate behavior', but I'm interested in what the you guys think as my thinking is obviously biased with him being my nephew.
My sister said it was a parent helper who witnessed this and reported it as 'inappropriate behavior' hence the suspension. Personally I think this is the wrong call as I can't see any sexual element to what happened, the fact he tried the same trick on the girl shows his naivety regarding the birds and the bees. It wasn't something like show me yours and I'll show you mine. There's no doubt he was in the wrong by hitting them and if he had done the right thing and told on them they would have gotten in trouble and not him, my sister agrees with this too. But I've got the feeling if he had been hit on another pressure point the week before say a poke in the eye he would have done the same thing to them.
I think all three of the kids should have been punished for what is my mind was just a simple playground brawl, rather than my nephew getting suspended for 'inappropriate behavior', but I'm interested in what the you guys think as my thinking is obviously biased with him being my nephew.
Yes "Grabbing someone by the genitals" is inappropriate behaviour. Just because he was kicked first of all doesn't excuse what he did even if he didn't understand what he was doing (which is really inappropriate). Hopefully his mum will sit down and explain why and in future he will punch or kick back if needed.
He should have gone to an an adult when he was attacked. Life isn't fair etc. etc.
He should have gone to an an adult when he was attacked. Life isn't fair etc. etc.
sugerbear said:
Yes "Grabbing someone by the genitals" is inappropriate behaviour. Just because he was kicked first of all doesn't excuse what he did even if he didn't understand what he was doing (which is really inappropriate). Hopefully his mum will sit down and explain why and in future he will punch or kick back if needed.
He should have gone to an an adult when he was attacked. Life isn't fair etc. etc.
And yet, if he attends self defence lessons later in life he'll be advised to aim for genitals (and other sensitive body parts).He should have gone to an an adult when he was attacked. Life isn't fair etc. etc.
I think the kids that attacked him deserve punishment - he deserves a pat on the head for standing up for himself.
I think they all need talking to.
Beavers will have a safeguarding policy.
It will rightly err of the side of caution for anything that could be perceived as a sexual assault.
In this instance all should have been suspended.
Your nephew needs to learn to walk away and talk to an adult. The other parties need to understand that fighting is off limits at Beavers.
Beavers will have a safeguarding policy.
It will rightly err of the side of caution for anything that could be perceived as a sexual assault.
In this instance all should have been suspended.
Your nephew needs to learn to walk away and talk to an adult. The other parties need to understand that fighting is off limits at Beavers.
Vaud said:
I think they all need talking to.
In this instance all should have been suspended.
Your nephew needs to learn to walk away and talk to an adult. The other parties need to understand that fighting is off limits at Beavers.
Yes totally agree with this, I think they were all wrong, just suspending him sends the wrong messageIn this instance all should have been suspended.
Your nephew needs to learn to walk away and talk to an adult. The other parties need to understand that fighting is off limits at Beavers.
Edited by Lenovo on Wednesday 12th September 11:55
daddy cool said:
sugerbear said:
Yes "Grabbing someone by the genitals" is inappropriate behaviour. Just because he was kicked first of all doesn't excuse what he did even if he didn't understand what he was doing (which is really inappropriate). Hopefully his mum will sit down and explain why and in future he will punch or kick back if needed.
He should have gone to an an adult when he was attacked. Life isn't fair etc. etc.
And yet, if he attends self defence lessons later in life he'll be advised to aim for genitals (and other sensitive body parts).He should have gone to an an adult when he was attacked. Life isn't fair etc. etc.
I think the kids that attacked him deserve punishment - he deserves a pat on the head for standing up for himself.
sugerbear said:
daddy cool said:
sugerbear said:
Yes "Grabbing someone by the genitals" is inappropriate behaviour. Just because he was kicked first of all doesn't excuse what he did even if he didn't understand what he was doing (which is really inappropriate). Hopefully his mum will sit down and explain why and in future he will punch or kick back if needed.
He should have gone to an an adult when he was attacked. Life isn't fair etc. etc.
And yet, if he attends self defence lessons later in life he'll be advised to aim for genitals (and other sensitive body parts).He should have gone to an an adult when he was attacked. Life isn't fair etc. etc.
I think the kids that attacked him deserve punishment - he deserves a pat on the head for standing up for himself.
The first rule of Beavers is: "you don't talk about Beavers".
The second rule of Beavers is: "aim for the beaver".
The kid is a bag snatcher! 
Seriously, I would just let it go. I can't think of anything worse that giving up my weekends and evenings, presumably on a voluntary basis, only to have parents and extended family arguing the toss every time I made a decision. You sound pretty reasonable but I bet there are plenty of parents who would think nothing of wading in with righteous indignation clouding their common sense.
Seriously, I would just let it go. I can't think of anything worse that giving up my weekends and evenings, presumably on a voluntary basis, only to have parents and extended family arguing the toss every time I made a decision. You sound pretty reasonable but I bet there are plenty of parents who would think nothing of wading in with righteous indignation clouding their common sense.
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