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Greendubber said:
Escort3500 said:
The OP seems to have gone very quiet........
Always does, he'll be back with another awesome thread before too long I'm sure.With this one he complains that people aren’t talking about his OP, yet as soon as I and others do and ask him questions or ‘debate it’, he worms away.
He’s far too angry and far too thick to acknowledge his own limitations on the subject matter he’s so obsessed with. His friends at the One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest tribute club probably swallow his mad rantings without challenging him.
Probably runs away in the real world when things get to too ‘tough’, too, which is why his life apparently consists of posting exclusively negative (and mostly stupid) things about the police in a different country from where he lives on a motoring forum.
Randy Winkman said:
I must admit, I've only read pages 1 and 7 of this thread. But, being honest, would the OP have got a different response if the issue was about a policeman's relationship with someone other than an environmental protestor?
Perhaps, but I think the primary objection is to the OP rather than the subject matter. I’m pretty sure most people on here would condemn someone going that far whilst working undercover. The world of UC was (and to some extent still is) quite ‘wild west’. I’ve read in other articles that the offices involved may have been charged with a crime under an alias, as if that’s something unusual and shocking for this type of work.
Regardless of these examples, at the heart of these deployments and work are people who often take on significant risk and dedicate large chunks of the best parts of their lives to ultimately keep the public safe.
Aspects that weirdos like the OP and one or two others can’t comprehend because they lack the perspective (and probably the intelligence) to consider the bigger picture.
When things do go wrong and too far, the best we can do is use our existing processes to try and make sure it doesn’t occur again, which is what has / is happening.
Randy Winkman said:
I must admit, I've only read pages 1 and 7 of this thread. But, being honest, would the OP have got a different response if the issue was about a policeman's relationship with someone other than an environmental protestor?
Just click on the OP's profile, and then click on forums at the top. Everything he posts about is police based. Does he have no other interests? seems a bit strange with the breadth and variation of forums on hear all he seeks out is Police related threads.eccles said:
Just click on the OP's profile, and then click on forums at the top. Everything he posts about is police based. Does he have no other interests? seems a bit strange with the breadth and variation of forums on hear all he seeks out is Police related threads.
As well as the fact he is so bothered abotu a country he no longer lives in as well.Channel his hate in other directions closer to his home would be better
pavarotti1980 said:
eccles said:
Just click on the OP's profile, and then click on forums at the top. Everything he posts about is police based. Does he have no other interests? seems a bit strange with the breadth and variation of forums on hear all he seeks out is Police related threads.
As well as the fact he is so bothered abotu a country he no longer lives in as well.Channel his hate in other directions closer to his home would be better
k me OP, do you also shop at Lush by any chance?Embarking on a sexual relationship with a police officer who's pretending not to be a police officer does sound a little bit suspect with regard to consent. It seems a little bit rapey.
It seems inconsistent with the wording of the Constables Oath.
Can there ever be a legitimate 'policing' purpose in raping someone?
When consensual sex can be a mind feck I suspect being coerced or forced into sex can do serious, sustained harm to people.
Those women being deceived into sexual relationships with police officers is that different from rape being used as a weapon of war in Africa or the Isis terrorists raping and trading Yazidi girls in the Middle East?
It was different times? It was OK to deceive women into sexual relationships to snoop for intelligence just as it was OK for 'celebrities' and 'stars' like Jimmy Savile to have sex with underage girls? Perhaps that analogy doesn't have legs as the women that agreed to have sex with police officers pretending not to be police officers were above the age of consent?
Taking advantage of grown women is different from taking advantage of underage girls?
That makes me sound like The Kracken Wakes. Don't worry I really should hibernate til the Spring.
It seems inconsistent with the wording of the Constables Oath.
Can there ever be a legitimate 'policing' purpose in raping someone?
When consensual sex can be a mind feck I suspect being coerced or forced into sex can do serious, sustained harm to people.
Those women being deceived into sexual relationships with police officers is that different from rape being used as a weapon of war in Africa or the Isis terrorists raping and trading Yazidi girls in the Middle East?
It was different times? It was OK to deceive women into sexual relationships to snoop for intelligence just as it was OK for 'celebrities' and 'stars' like Jimmy Savile to have sex with underage girls? Perhaps that analogy doesn't have legs as the women that agreed to have sex with police officers pretending not to be police officers were above the age of consent?
Taking advantage of grown women is different from taking advantage of underage girls?
La Liga said:
Mr2Mike said:
And now the buffoon has woken up carinaman 
It’s like there’s a wibble bat signal. Edited by carinaman on Monday 24th September 22:35
carinaman said:
Embarking on a sexual relationship with a police officer who's pretending not to be a police officer does sound a little bit suspect with regard to consent. It seems a little bit rapey.
OK, so how do the police do undercover, if there's such an easy way for The Bad Guys to weed out any potential infiltrator...?carinaman said:
Embarking on a sexual relationship with a police officer who's pretending not to be a police officer does sound a little bit suspect with regard to consent. It seems a little bit rapey.
It seems inconsistent with the wording of the Constables Oath.
Can there ever be a legitimate 'policing' purpose in raping someone?
I think the consent is with the person not the job title.It seems inconsistent with the wording of the Constables Oath.
Can there ever be a legitimate 'policing' purpose in raping someone?
Also i dont think the oath mentions anything about getting your end away either
carinaman said:
Embarking on a sexual relationship with a police officer who's pretending not to be a police officer does sound a little bit suspect with regard to consent. It seems a little bit rapey.
You raise a valid question, one that was looked at carefully. The crime would be rape by deception.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_by_deception
The 2011 UK undercover policing relationships scandal, in which police officers obtained sex by deceiving as to their identity, as part of their duties. Crown Prosecutors declined to prosecute on the basis that legally, the actions would not constitute rape as consent to the act itself was informed and the grounds for rape by deceit as to identity was extremely limited.
carinaman said:
Embarking on a sexual relationship with a police officer who's pretending not to be a police officer does sound a little bit suspect with regard to consent. It seems a little bit rapey.
What colour is the sky in your world ?So all the podgy gingers who are pretending to be Ed Sheeran on a Friday night are Rapists ?
As are the poor who pretend to be rich and the girls who pretend to be mentally stable.
There is not much on the telly so I thought lets take a little look at PH forums for a few minutes and started to read and indeed all the way through....and one question came into my mind....Why???
Why did the OP decide it was a good thing to post in the way he did? why did so many other people think it was a good idea to enter into a discussion? Why the hell did I read it all the way through?
I am not usually so easily confused but WTF?
Why did the OP decide it was a good thing to post in the way he did? why did so many other people think it was a good idea to enter into a discussion? Why the hell did I read it all the way through?
I am not usually so easily confused but WTF?
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