Car dealer storing cars in our car park

Car dealer storing cars in our car park

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Deep Thought

35,812 posts

197 months

Monday 8th October 2018
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rockin said:
Clamping etc is now illegal (on private property) so that's not a possibility.

  • Get your residents association to formally agree a parking charge of £100 a night for non-residents (and non-guests) who park overnight.
  • Put up clear signs setting out the new parking charges.
  • Use CCTV and/or DVLA enquiries to identify who is doing the parking.
  • Send the parker appropriate bills.
  • Sue the parker in court for any unpaid bills. This is not expensive.
^^^^
THIS

freenote

Original Poster:

784 posts

168 months

Monday 8th October 2018
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cv01jw said:
Can you put a gate or similar up to restrict entry to keyholders?
looking into it but little desire from most people to pay as most of the flats are tenanted so landlords not bothered.

BluePurpleRed

1,137 posts

226 months

Monday 8th October 2018
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Being slightly mischievous here.... can you sell them? smile

On re - reading) I sort of mean those places that turn up and scrap cars for cash. So its crushed and gone by the time he goes back

As in when one turns up. 99p starting bid, collection only. 24h eBay auction. There will be loads of people like him that will think they have a bargain and turn up with a tow truck.

Get cash, they go off with it and then deny all knowledge. Donate cash in his name to charity of your choice. After 2 or 3 "disappear" he might stop doing it.

Not in his name... can't report it can he?

Otherwise phone the police and say you have an abandoned car with what looks like needles and knives in it.





steveo3002

10,515 posts

174 months

Monday 8th October 2018
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does he advertise a phone number?

maybe some false info in some ad's ...stick up an ad for the actual cars but 1/3rd price , will take part exh , installments etc

limpsfield

5,880 posts

253 months

Monday 8th October 2018
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BluePurpleRed said:
Being slightly mischievous here.... can you sell them? smile

On re - reading) I sort of mean those places that turn up and scrap cars for cash. So its crushed and gone by the time he goes back

As in when one turns up. 99p starting bid, collection only. 24h eBay auction. There will be loads of people like him that will think they have a bargain and turn up with a tow truck.

Get cash, they go off with it and then deny all knowledge. Donate cash in his name to charity of your choice. After 2 or 3 "disappear" he might stop doing it.
I always buy cars off someone who has no proof of ownership. All the time.

TIGA84

5,206 posts

231 months

Monday 8th October 2018
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freenote said:
All,

We have a car dealer (part-time trader) who lives somewhere down the road using the car park for our block of flats to store his cars for sale, untaxed.

I have confronted him before and he is quite aggressive.

Is there anything we can do to stop this?

Any help much appreciated. I would consider any lawful option.
what sort of aggression do you mean - arguing that he can park there? arguing that you can't tell him what to do? - this bit seems to have gone unquestioned?



rsbmw

3,464 posts

105 months

Monday 8th October 2018
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limpsfield said:
I always buy cars off someone who has no proof of ownership. All the time.
In that case, I have plenty of nice cars I can sell you. Unfortunately, I have misplaced the keys...

cv01jw

1,136 posts

195 months

Monday 8th October 2018
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freenote said:
looking into it but little desire from most people to pay as most of the flats are tenanted so landlords not bothered.
Ah, difficult then. I was also going to suggest collapsible bollards as another option, but again they are not cheap.

Do the tenants not get frustrated when their spaces are taken?

shakotan

10,690 posts

196 months

Monday 8th October 2018
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limpsfield said:
BluePurpleRed said:
Being slightly mischievous here.... can you sell them? smile

On re - reading) I sort of mean those places that turn up and scrap cars for cash. So its crushed and gone by the time he goes back

As in when one turns up. 99p starting bid, collection only. 24h eBay auction. There will be loads of people like him that will think they have a bargain and turn up with a tow truck.

Get cash, they go off with it and then deny all knowledge. Donate cash in his name to charity of your choice. After 2 or 3 "disappear" he might stop doing it.
I always buy cars off someone who has no proof of ownership. All the time.
"Scrap metal dealers" won't care about proof of ownership.

freenote

Original Poster:

784 posts

168 months

Monday 8th October 2018
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TIGA84 said:
freenote said:
All,

We have a car dealer (part-time trader) who lives somewhere down the road using the car park for our block of flats to store his cars for sale, untaxed.

I have confronted him before and he is quite aggressive.

Is there anything we can do to stop this?

Any help much appreciated. I would consider any lawful option.
what sort of aggression do you mean - arguing that he can park there? arguing that you can't tell him what to do? - this bit seems to have gone unquestioned?
yes exactly, claiming he lives there, that his mother lives there etc. then getting a bit confrontational when i called him out as lying. telling em the car isn't for sale. asking how it's any of my business etc. just seems an unsavory character.

S11Steve

6,374 posts

184 months

Monday 8th October 2018
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freenote said:
lufbramatt said:
Set of wheel dollies and drag them out into the street?
would love to but apparently not legal
Arguable, but it's worked for... er someone I know quite well, in the past. Although plastic tea trays are just as effective as dollies and a lot cheaper.
A few tickets for being left on double yellows tends to have the desired effect. And if there is no tax, then the PCN for double yellows could be the least of the problems.

rockin said:
Clamping etc is now illegal (on private property) so that's not a possibility.

  • Get your residents association to formally agree a parking charge of £100 a night for non-residents (and non-guests) who park overnight.
  • Put up clear signs setting out the new parking charges.
  • Use CCTV and/or DVLA enquiries to identify who is doing the parking.
  • Send the parker appropriate bills.
  • Sue the parker in court for any unpaid bills. This is not expensive.
Needs to be part of a trade association and all the nonsense that goes with it to obtain keeper details from the DVLA. far more trouble than it's worth.



Personally though, I'm a fan of these - https://www.amazon.co.uk/PARKING-WARNING-NOTICE-PR...
A few hours scraping them off may make the guy think twice about using your space.




Andeh13

7,110 posts

206 months

Monday 8th October 2018
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Large self adhesive "no parking etc etc etc" are a nightmare to get off!

My last company used to use them to dissuade "illegal" parking... Quick & easy to apply, use a bugger to remove!

strain

419 posts

101 months

Monday 8th October 2018
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Let's face it the guys a prick so be a prick back

- smash frozen sausages into the windscreen


Failing that just keep calling him every 15 minutes asking about the shed for sale, put his number online in a buy/sell/swap group with a 'free car' advert


Just do a few things to wind the prick up then tell him it will all stop when he moves them (over the phone if your not a company director right?)

rsbmw

3,464 posts

105 months

Monday 8th October 2018
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strain said:
Let's face it the guys a prick so be a prick back

- smash frozen sausages into the windscreen
Would be funny, he should be very confused when he gets back to the car with a smashed screen and some now-defrosted sausages on the dash/seats.

SmoothCriminal

5,055 posts

199 months

Monday 8th October 2018
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Grease under all the door handles every car every time

The Selfish Gene

5,498 posts

210 months

Monday 8th October 2018
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the gates are a good idea - but possibly quite expensive.

the other idea (if you want to stay legal) is the telescopic metal posts - you can get them installed for quite cheaply, for a basic one (couple of hundred pounds).

Do this when his cars are still in situ - and make it a total PITA for him to remove them.

Double whammy of hassle for him - and he'll stop doing it.

Then just give the keys to the shareholders.

Personally I'd drag them down the road (without dollies) using my Landy............but you seem you want to be completely on the rights side of the law.

creampuff

6,511 posts

143 months

Monday 8th October 2018
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I'd never advocate criminal damage. However the trader being aggressive towards you does seem like odd behaviour. There are a number of people living there who could be aggrieved at cars being parked there. If the cars started to get vandalised, it would be very difficult to prove who did it. An aggrieved person would have a lot more inventory of vehicles to vent their angst on than the trader would the other way around.

Generally being aggressive when you are in a position where others can take a vindictive recourse without being caught means the agreesor is, well, thick as fk. Is this the case?

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 8th October 2018
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As previous poster has said, affix a very sticky A4 notice saying 'no unauthorized' parking to front and side windows. Absolute pain in the bum to get off and he'll think twice next time. Or I hear that surfboard wax is very cheap and even more difficult to remove from a windscreen.

familyguy1

778 posts

132 months

Monday 8th October 2018
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take pictures and advertise them for sale with the blokes own number, but put them at a lower price where they are almost to good to be true but not quite. This should mean the bloke gets calls from lots of different people (and numbers, so cannot block them) and has to deal with upping the price on the car "he has advertised"

Pica-Pica

13,764 posts

84 months

Monday 8th October 2018
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If the cars are in a car park, is that ‘a public place’, even if it is a private car park? So is any SORN misapplied here? Is there an issue of lack of insurance?