Busted with Illegal plate
Discussion
Christmassss said:
Not really, car designers are limited by financial constraints, modifying a car takes away those financial constraints and makes them better.
For Example:
HSD coilovers = better than factory
Carl Hayward Turbos = Better than factory
V Mount set up = Much better than factory
Power FC = Significantly better than factory ECU
Wider Wheels = more traction
By reducing the water temperature my RX7 engine will last much longer than a standard one and has. Currently 148k miles in my white one.
Its rotary by design it will kill itself at some point so a number plate blocking a small amount of air to cool the radiator or intercooler is not going to be the straw that broke the camels back!For Example:
HSD coilovers = better than factory
Carl Hayward Turbos = Better than factory
V Mount set up = Much better than factory
Power FC = Significantly better than factory ECU
Wider Wheels = more traction
By reducing the water temperature my RX7 engine will last much longer than a standard one and has. Currently 148k miles in my white one.
The big reason is coolant seals on the turbocharged rotary engine give out over time! A number plate not being in front of the lower front grill isn't going to help that.
surveyor_101 said:
Its rotary by design it will kill itself at some point so a number plate blocking a small amount of air to cool the radiator or intercooler is not going to be the straw that broke the camels back!
The big reason is coolant seals on the turbocharged rotary engine give out over time! A number plate not being in front of the lower front grill isn't going to help that.
Ummm..coolant seals...correct...one way to protect them is to keep water temp down...148k miles in, looks good from where i am standing!The big reason is coolant seals on the turbocharged rotary engine give out over time! A number plate not being in front of the lower front grill isn't going to help that.
I do the rebuilds myself on my RX7's.
PF62 said:
It always surprises me why people have butchered plates as it would seem such an easy 'hit' for the police and gives them the opportunity to stop the car whenever they fancy and see what they can find.
Idiots always draw attention to themselves. They can't help it. I think it may be Darwinism but, in the modern world, they attract the attention of the Police and not of a lion. This is why they are breeding like crazy and not instead, getting eaten as would naturally be the case otherwise 
BertBert said:
What a bunch of sourfaces this place has become. Even a bloke modding his RX7 is in the wrong as the manufacturer knows best.
Unbelievable.
(If you are talking specifically about the plate removed) Removing a numberplate isnt modding beit on a Ford Focus, Lamborghini or RX7. Unbelievable.
That might read high horse but it's the basics of motoring. Unscrew the carrier on trackdays but 99% of your day driving on British roads ain't sexy enough to warrant any adaptation.
4rephill said:
clive993 said:
No not defending myself at all, its wrong, i got done and rightly so..........
So why are you posting about it then? 
(You were hoping for a mass group hug, and loads of supportive posts defending your use of your illegally spaced plates weren't you?
)gazza285 said:
Christmassss said:
I removed it to give a proven reduction in water temp -12 degrees. Totally worth it, especially in a rotary.
Does your thermostat not work?
Probably removed because it was making the engine run hotter. Expect a "Why does my car take so long to warm up?" question any time now...
Sa Calobra said:
(If you are talking specifically about the plate removed) Removing a numberplate isnt modding beit on a Ford Focus, Lamborghini or RX7.
That might read high horse but it's the basics of motoring. Unscrew the carrier on trackdays but 99% of your day driving on British roads ain't sexy enough to warrant any adaptation.
modification:That might read high horse but it's the basics of motoring. Unscrew the carrier on trackdays but 99% of your day driving on British roads ain't sexy enough to warrant any adaptation.
the action of modifying something.
a change made.
A modification to aid performance and longevity seems fair game to me. But ultimately how does someone removing their front plate affect you or any other of the Grandads on this thread? An opinion is one thing, but someone actually stated that if someone removes their front plate, they deserve to have their car crushed.
On a car forum.
What actually comes across is the people who are moaning and complaining about something that genuinely has zero affect on their lives, are really unhappy with their own lives. I feel sorry for them.
silentbrown said:
Probably removed because it was making the engine run hotter. Expect a "Why does my car take so long to warm up?" question any time now...
Appreciate the sarcasm though.
BertBert said:
What a bunch of sourfaces this place has become. Even a bloke modding his RX7 is in the wrong as the manufacturer knows best.
Unbelievable.
I wouldn't waste your time. The Dadsnet crew are out in force.Unbelievable.
There certainly appears to be a market for an actual car enthusiasts forum these days.
Edited by Christmassss on Wednesday 17th October 08:45
Christmassss said:
BertBert said:
What a bunch of sourfaces this place has become. Even a bloke modding his RX7 is in the wrong as the manufacturer knows best.
Unbelievable.
I wouldn't waste your time. The Dadsnet crew are out in force.Unbelievable.
There certainly appears to be market for an actual car enthusiasts forum these days.
12c!! You need to explain how that figure was so high? I would only expect those sorts of figures if the ONLY intake grill was blocked.
I disagree that a motoring forum should automatically be anti-law. There's a compromise/sweet spot between having fun and being lawful, but sadly I don't think that will ever include bodged or missing plates for the majority of petrol heads.
I do agree that there are some strange views on here. Especially the one comparing number plate fines to terrorism. That really is disturbing.
Mandalore said:
I found that simply moving my number plate sorted out any airflow problems on my modified cars.
12c!! You need to explain how that figure was so high? I would only expect those sorts of figures if the ONLY intake grill was blocked.
I disagree that a motoring forum should automatically be anti-law. There's a compromise/sweet spot between having fun and being lawful, but sadly I don't think that will ever include bodged or missing plates for the majority of petrol heads.
I do agree that there are some strange views on here. Especially the one comparing number plate fines to terrorism. That really is disturbing.
Have a look on the pics in my garage. On the black one (UK Spec) the number plate was mounted in the gap right in front of the radiator. It covered approx 70% of the area.12c!! You need to explain how that figure was so high? I would only expect those sorts of figures if the ONLY intake grill was blocked.
I disagree that a motoring forum should automatically be anti-law. There's a compromise/sweet spot between having fun and being lawful, but sadly I don't think that will ever include bodged or missing plates for the majority of petrol heads.
I do agree that there are some strange views on here. Especially the one comparing number plate fines to terrorism. That really is disturbing.
I just don't understand how everyone gets so irate about little things, especially non endorsable issues that have no affect on anyone else.
Christmassss said:
No questions about Rotaries will be forthcoming from me. 12+ years modifying them, I have a good idea on what is good and bad for them
Appreciate the sarcasm though.
Apologies, I've been having "one of those" mornings. Appreciate the sarcasm though.
Back on point, I understand (particularly, tuned) RX7s suffer from overheating both in traffic and when driven hard. Numberplate removal surely won't help the first case much, but should in the second.. I'm curious/skeptical about the 12 degree figure because there's so many variables - ambient temperatures, driving style, etc, Exactly how/when it's measured is important.
silentbrown said:
Apologies, I've been having "one of those" mornings.
Back on point, I understand (particularly, tuned) RX7s suffer from overheating both in traffic and when driven hard. Numberplate removal surely won't help the first case much, but should in the second.. I'm curious/skeptical about the 12 degree figure because there's so many variables - ambient temperatures, driving style, etc, Exactly how/when it's measured is important.
I take the water temp from the Power Fc.Back on point, I understand (particularly, tuned) RX7s suffer from overheating both in traffic and when driven hard. Numberplate removal surely won't help the first case much, but should in the second.. I'm curious/skeptical about the 12 degree figure because there's so many variables - ambient temperatures, driving style, etc, Exactly how/when it's measured is important.
So in traffic i normally sit at around 80-83. When driving hard the very max i see is 95. I used to see between 105-110.
As a rule, 117 would cause water seal failure.
The FC figures are a bit lower, off the top of my head its 75 ish in traffic (with the fan on constant) but a 100-102 when driving hard. But thats due to the front bumper being restrictive.
Christmassss said:
I wouldn't waste your time. The Dadsnet crew are out in force.
There certainly appears to be a market for an actual car enthusiasts forum these days.
There is a difference between modding a car and running an illegal set up and moaning the police are harassing you about it.There certainly appears to be a market for an actual car enthusiasts forum these days.
Edited by Christmassss on Wednesday 17th October 08:45
surveyor_101 said:
There is a difference between modding a car and running an illegal set up and moaning the police are harassing you about it.
Where have i moaned? I got pulled over once (as stated above) in 12 years. The two police officers were super cool. I explained the reason, then they spent 20 mins discussing between themselves where it could go without blocking the radiator and in their words, not looking s
t.I have zero trouble with the police and the only attention i get from them is when they actually want to know more about it.
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