Victim of deliberate swerve towards my car in lane 3 on M1
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I had some bloke in a large Mazda near new estate car do that to me on the elevated section of A4 in Hammersmith.
Came up the inside of a JCB that was moving from lane 1 to lane 2 in order to be in the correct lane for the flyover.
Twunt in the Mazda over took the JCB on inside and just managed to get past him before the barrier started then went
into the side of me forcing my old Ranger up onto the centre high kurb damaging front wing.
Cheeky
then gave me the finger.
Well my battered old Ranger and me was having none of that so I battered every panel on his car from front to rear off side
he still did not want to stop. (was more worried about the good kicking he was going to get from the pair of us)
Insurance paid out for my Ranger, cost me £500 to fix it up and I pocketed £7k from his insurance.
All this at 05:10 in the morning, hate to see what his repair invoice was ha ha. Useful things on board video.
Came up the inside of a JCB that was moving from lane 1 to lane 2 in order to be in the correct lane for the flyover.
Twunt in the Mazda over took the JCB on inside and just managed to get past him before the barrier started then went
into the side of me forcing my old Ranger up onto the centre high kurb damaging front wing.
Cheeky
then gave me the finger.Well my battered old Ranger and me was having none of that so I battered every panel on his car from front to rear off side
he still did not want to stop. (was more worried about the good kicking he was going to get from the pair of us)
Insurance paid out for my Ranger, cost me £500 to fix it up and I pocketed £7k from his insurance.
All this at 05:10 in the morning, hate to see what his repair invoice was ha ha. Useful things on board video.
TVaRt said:
Basically i have reported to the Police with dash cam footage of an idiot in a 4x4 undertaking and swerving into my car (front LH side) adn they have asked me to go in and make a statement. They do keep asking if i want to pursue the matter, i do feel they dont want to prosecute as its hassle, but the guy almost put me into the central reservation on the M1! I think they have said they will prosecute for driving without due care, to me it seems it should be dangerous driving? Has anyone else been through this type of event and what was the outcome, is it worth pursuing and getting the guy prosecuted? His argument will be that i pulled out into the outside lane to close to the front of his vehicle, there was plenty of space from what i saw, its was a very careful and slowly executed maneuver on camera, it also doesn't have any bearing on the actual impact, apart from the fact that he was pissed off!
thanks
I am not saying the 4x4 driver did anything other than wrong. But I am not sure what you mean by "There was plenty of space from what I saw" if you move into the outside lane, then the vehicle already in that lane should not need to slow down or alter course as result of you doing so - otherwise it's the exact opposite of a careful maneuver. thanks
SVTRick said:
I had some bloke in a large Mazda near new estate car do that to me on the elevated section of A4 in Hammersmith.
Came up the inside of a JCB that was moving from lane 1 to lane 2 in order to be in the correct lane for the flyover.
Twunt in the Mazda over took the JCB on inside and just managed to get past him before the barrier started then went
into the side of me forcing my old Ranger up onto the centre high kurb damaging front wing.
Cheeky then gave me the finger.
Well my battered old Ranger and me was having none of that so I battered every panel on his car from front to rear off side
he still did not want to stop. (was more worried about the good kicking he was going to get from the pair of us)
Insurance paid out for my Ranger, cost me £500 to fix it up and I pocketed £7k from his insurance.
All this at 05:10 in the morning, hate to see what his repair invoice was ha ha. Useful things on board video.
Post up the video.Came up the inside of a JCB that was moving from lane 1 to lane 2 in order to be in the correct lane for the flyover.
Twunt in the Mazda over took the JCB on inside and just managed to get past him before the barrier started then went
into the side of me forcing my old Ranger up onto the centre high kurb damaging front wing.
Cheeky
then gave me the finger.Well my battered old Ranger and me was having none of that so I battered every panel on his car from front to rear off side
he still did not want to stop. (was more worried about the good kicking he was going to get from the pair of us)
Insurance paid out for my Ranger, cost me £500 to fix it up and I pocketed £7k from his insurance.
All this at 05:10 in the morning, hate to see what his repair invoice was ha ha. Useful things on board video.
Alucidnation said:
SVTRick said:
I had some bloke in a large Mazda near new estate car do that to me on the elevated section of A4 in Hammersmith.
Came up the inside of a JCB that was moving from lane 1 to lane 2 in order to be in the correct lane for the flyover.
Twunt in the Mazda over took the JCB on inside and just managed to get past him before the barrier started then went
into the side of me forcing my old Ranger up onto the centre high kurb damaging front wing.
Cheeky then gave me the finger.
Well my battered old Ranger and me was having none of that so I battered every panel on his car from front to rear off side
he still did not want to stop. (was more worried about the good kicking he was going to get from the pair of us)
Insurance paid out for my Ranger, cost me £500 to fix it up and I pocketed £7k from his insurance.
All this at 05:10 in the morning, hate to see what his repair invoice was ha ha. Useful things on board video.
Post up the video.Came up the inside of a JCB that was moving from lane 1 to lane 2 in order to be in the correct lane for the flyover.
Twunt in the Mazda over took the JCB on inside and just managed to get past him before the barrier started then went
into the side of me forcing my old Ranger up onto the centre high kurb damaging front wing.
Cheeky
then gave me the finger.Well my battered old Ranger and me was having none of that so I battered every panel on his car from front to rear off side
he still did not want to stop. (was more worried about the good kicking he was going to get from the pair of us)
Insurance paid out for my Ranger, cost me £500 to fix it up and I pocketed £7k from his insurance.
All this at 05:10 in the morning, hate to see what his repair invoice was ha ha. Useful things on board video.
My suspicion is, on the approach to the 50 mph zone, the OP has seen the 4x4 tanking along in lane 3, not slowing down, and so they've decided to take the Law into their own hands and drifted into lane 3 at slow speed, to force the 4x4 to slow down.
The 4x4 driver got pssed off at being deliberately held up in lane 3, so swerved into lane 2, started to pass the OP on the inside, and then, just as they were clearing the front of the OP's car, swerved right, back into lane 3, forcing the OP to swerve and brake, to show the OP just how pssed off they were.
(That's what really happened, isn't OP?
)
The OP's dash-cam footage will simply show the OP moving gently into lane 3, only to have a 4x4 come up the inside of them, and then swerve across the front of the car violently, for no apparent reason.
What would be really funny, would be if the 4x4 driver had dash-cam footage of a slow moving car in lane two, drifting into lane 3 purely to get in the way of the 4x4 and slow it down.
C'mon OP, tell the truth - You were the instigator of this whole incident, weren't you?
The 4x4 driver got p
ssed off at being deliberately held up in lane 3, so swerved into lane 2, started to pass the OP on the inside, and then, just as they were clearing the front of the OP's car, swerved right, back into lane 3, forcing the OP to swerve and brake, to show the OP just how pssed off they were.(That's what really happened, isn't OP?
)The OP's dash-cam footage will simply show the OP moving gently into lane 3, only to have a 4x4 come up the inside of them, and then swerve across the front of the car violently, for no apparent reason.
What would be really funny, would be if the 4x4 driver had dash-cam footage of a slow moving car in lane two, drifting into lane 3 purely to get in the way of the 4x4 and slow it down.
C'mon OP, tell the truth - You were the instigator of this whole incident, weren't you?
SVTRick said:
I had some bloke in a large Mazda near new estate car do that to me on the elevated section of A4 in Hammersmith.
Came up the inside of a JCB that was moving from lane 1 to lane 2 in order to be in the correct lane for the flyover.
Twunt in the Mazda over took the JCB on inside and just managed to get past him before the barrier started then went
into the side of me forcing my old Ranger up onto the centre high kurb damaging front wing.
Cheeky then gave me the finger.
Well my battered old Ranger and me was having none of that so I battered every panel on his car from front to rear off side
he still did not want to stop. (was more worried about the good kicking he was going to get from the pair of us)
Insurance paid out for my Ranger, cost me £500 to fix it up and I pocketed £7k from his insurance.
All this at 05:10 in the morning, hate to see what his repair invoice was ha ha. Useful things on board video.
Sounds believable....Came up the inside of a JCB that was moving from lane 1 to lane 2 in order to be in the correct lane for the flyover.
Twunt in the Mazda over took the JCB on inside and just managed to get past him before the barrier started then went
into the side of me forcing my old Ranger up onto the centre high kurb damaging front wing.
Cheeky
then gave me the finger.Well my battered old Ranger and me was having none of that so I battered every panel on his car from front to rear off side
he still did not want to stop. (was more worried about the good kicking he was going to get from the pair of us)
Insurance paid out for my Ranger, cost me £500 to fix it up and I pocketed £7k from his insurance.
All this at 05:10 in the morning, hate to see what his repair invoice was ha ha. Useful things on board video.
It sounds like the 4x4 might be one of those who don’t look ahead and hadn’t noticed the 50mph speed limit, or might be one of those who travels through average speed zones well above the speed limit. I’m often surprised at the numbers of these I see, and I do wonder if they actually have a licence to lose.
What if the op had decided that looking ahead, lane 3 was the best option, with the other lanes looking congested and travelling slower? Is the op entitled to move into L3, knowing that another driver will have to slow down, but who is required by law to slow to 50 anyway? Who should have priority, the legal driver or the illegal driver?
What if the op had decided that looking ahead, lane 3 was the best option, with the other lanes looking congested and travelling slower? Is the op entitled to move into L3, knowing that another driver will have to slow down, but who is required by law to slow to 50 anyway? Who should have priority, the legal driver or the illegal driver?
heebeegeetee said:
It sounds like the 4x4 might be one of those who don’t look ahead and hadn’t noticed the 50mph speed limit, or might be one of those who travels through average speed zones well above the speed limit. I’m often surprised at the numbers of these I see, and I do wonder if they actually have a licence to lose.
What if the op had decided that looking ahead, lane 3 was the best option, with the other lanes looking congested and travelling slower? Is the op entitled to move into L3, knowing that another driver will have to slow down, but who is required by law to slow to 50 anyway? Who should have priority, the legal driver or the illegal driver?
In this hypothetical example, which driver's actions are most likely to result in an accident.What if the op had decided that looking ahead, lane 3 was the best option, with the other lanes looking congested and travelling slower? Is the op entitled to move into L3, knowing that another driver will have to slow down, but who is required by law to slow to 50 anyway? Who should have priority, the legal driver or the illegal driver?
4x4 driver 'tanking' along might have been an undercover policeman or someone travelling at haste to a hospital to say goodbye to a dying parent. They may well be a selfish pillock. Who knows for certain.
4rephill said:
My suspicion is, on the approach to the 50 mph zone, the OP has seen the 4x4 tanking along in lane 3, not slowing down, and so they've decided to take the Law into their own hands and drifted into lane 3 at slow speed, to force the 4x4 to slow down.
Ding ding ding, jackpot! A Walt Womble, I reckon!! I bet there is a reflective coat involved somewhere, too! lol
heebeegeetee said:
It sounds like the 4x4 might be one of those who don’t look ahead and hadn’t noticed the 50mph speed limit, or might be one of those who travels through average speed zones well above the speed limit. I’m often surprised at the numbers of these I see, and I do wonder if they actually have a licence to lose.
What if the op had decided that looking ahead, lane 3 was the best option, with the other lanes looking congested and travelling slower? Is the op entitled to move into L3, knowing that another driver will have to slow down, but who is required by law to slow to 50 anyway? Who should have priority, the legal driver or the illegal driver?
Well, it could be any one if a number of things but from the absence of replies from the OP, perhaps he’s been found out? Who knows. What if the op had decided that looking ahead, lane 3 was the best option, with the other lanes looking congested and travelling slower? Is the op entitled to move into L3, knowing that another driver will have to slow down, but who is required by law to slow to 50 anyway? Who should have priority, the legal driver or the illegal driver?
As for who should have priority who cares? Surely it’s better to just stay out of the way? I’d rather be behind someone who’s speeding and not looking ahead.
REALIST123 said:
Well, it could be any one if a number of things but from the absence of replies from the OP, perhaps he’s been found out? Who knows.
As for who should have priority who cares? Surely it’s better to just stay out of the way? I’d rather be behind someone who’s speeding and not looking ahead.
The op was behind someone who’s speeding, his front wing was hit. As for who should have priority who cares? Surely it’s better to just stay out of the way? I’d rather be behind someone who’s speeding and not looking ahead.
It’s interesting that you believe that the person who should not be delayed is the person breaking the law, and that people who might want to obey the laws of the land are deemed not to be in a hurry and should be afforded a lower precedence.
If this collision took place in the mouth of roadworks then presumably the mway came to a halt or near halt, and much delay thus caused to those behind the speeder.
I do think the idea that the speeder might be rushing to visit a sick relative, which is a theory often suggested here on ph, is fanciful nonsense imo.
I think there’s almost no chance of this being the case and the idea should be dropped. I think there’s an overwhelming chance that the driver using a speed inappropriate for the conditions is in reality just a disorganised idiot, and I’m speaking from some experience here. 🙂
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