Victim of deliberate swerve towards my car in lane 3 on M1
Discussion
croyde said:
Chris Type R said:
I've been in a position where I've been following my daughter to hospital when she has been transported there by ambulance - and someone has obstructed me purposefully.
I've also been in the position where I've transported my mother-in-law to hospital A&E rather than wait for an ambulance.
You know what stuff like this does really happen in the real world.
My young son fell off the sofa whilst sleeping and smashed all his teeth in. I've also been in the position where I've transported my mother-in-law to hospital A&E rather than wait for an ambulance.
You know what stuff like this does really happen in the real world.
Edited by Chris Type R on Tuesday 6th November 13:05
Hospital about 2 miles away but it was rush hour gridlock.
I drove at a steady slow pace on the wrong side of the road honking my horn.
Amazingly I didn't get a signal ticket but obviously I didn't care as my boy was in the back with his mouth in a state, blood everywhere.
Yep! it does happen.
lyonspride said:
When the missus went into labour a few month ago, I was dreading the 22 mile drive to hospital along the infamous A449 to Worcester, a road ruined by "traffic calming", where the road keeps opening to two lanes, then merging back to one lane, the rage these merges can cause is insane some mornings. I'd already decided weeks in advance that if anyone tried to get obstructive with me on that hospital run, I was going to ram them out of the way and carry on, but fortunately the event arrived at 3am and the roads were all but empty.
Have you been 'practising' on the M1? 
I don't know what the penalty would be, but I suspect that fitting some blue lights and using them on your hospital run would end better than ramming innocent motorists off the road.
lyonspride said:
croyde said:
Chris Type R said:
I've been in a position where I've been following my daughter to hospital when she has been transported there by ambulance - and someone has obstructed me purposefully.
I've also been in the position where I've transported my mother-in-law to hospital A&E rather than wait for an ambulance.
You know what stuff like this does really happen in the real world.
My young son fell off the sofa whilst sleeping and smashed all his teeth in. I've also been in the position where I've transported my mother-in-law to hospital A&E rather than wait for an ambulance.
You know what stuff like this does really happen in the real world.
Edited by Chris Type R on Tuesday 6th November 13:05
Hospital about 2 miles away but it was rush hour gridlock.
I drove at a steady slow pace on the wrong side of the road honking my horn.
Amazingly I didn't get a signal ticket but obviously I didn't care as my boy was in the back with his mouth in a state, blood everywhere.
Yep! it does happen.
Aren't you lot just plain awesome, or what!
My wife went into labour and we caught the bus. In fact two buses. One from Tidworth to Salisbury, and the other from Salisbury to Odstock. Oh, and she was having contractions in McDonalds while she ate a McChicken sandwich to kill some time between buses.
Dying relatives? Wives in labour? Some missing teeth? And you want to play the "I'm exempt from sensible driving" card for that? What a bunch of t
twaffles.Back in May my neighbour kindly transported me to hospital with a badly broken leg after the ambulance controller refused to send an ambulance. It was between midnight and 1 am when I got into the car, and she drove perfectly sensibly and legally all the way there. I was admitted for surgery and a 12 day stay on a trauma ward. How long was the kid with the busted teeth in for? Or the woman about to give birth? And is it really worth risking your own life, and the lives of others, in order to say a last goodbye to someone about to do what we'll all do one day? Dying is, after all, the one guaranteed event in your life post-birth.
No-one has any right to expect the rest of the world to stop, or move aside, in such situations. Principally because the person you expect to move over may well have a far more important reason for being on the road than you. Like maybe the person you rammed off the road on the "infamous" A449 was a midwife on her way to a shift at the hospital to help care for numerous women about to give birth? Or someone like my wife who has been paged to go in to work to drain some poor bugger's chest, or put a stent in an unwell person.
It makes me laugh, it really does. I bet some of you "Big I Am's" are the same a
holes who park over the ends of other peoples drives and then excuse themselves because they're "visiting a dying relative" or some other bogus shiiite. Because sometimes, the drive you are obstructing has the car of that surgeon/doctor/nurse who is on duty to drop everything and go in to work to save lives. Let's hope it's not YOUR granny who needs a stent fitting eh? Because the person who is on duty on Christmas Day to drop everything to put it in can't get out of their drive because your car is in their way. Every second counts, but there's no rush eh? Just some busybody who can't cut a lazy bd some slack at Christmas...TL;DR? Unless you are James Bond on the way to prevent imminent nuclear Armageddon, then there's no good excuse for driving like a twunt...
speedking31 said:
lyonspride said:
When the missus went into labour a few month ago, I was dreading the 22 mile drive to hospital along the infamous A449 to Worcester, a road ruined by "traffic calming", where the road keeps opening to two lanes, then merging back to one lane, the rage these merges can cause is insane some mornings. I'd already decided weeks in advance that if anyone tried to get obstructive with me on that hospital run, I was going to ram them out of the way and carry on, but fortunately the event arrived at 3am and the roads were all but empty.
Have you been 'practising' on the M1? I don't know what the penalty would be, but I suspect that fitting some blue lights and using them on your hospital run would end better than ramming innocent motorists off the road.
yellowjack said:
lyonspride said:
croyde said:
Chris Type R said:
I've been in a position where I've been following my daughter to hospital when she has been transported there by ambulance - and someone has obstructed me purposefully.
I've also been in the position where I've transported my mother-in-law to hospital A&E rather than wait for an ambulance.
You know what stuff like this does really happen in the real world.
My young son fell off the sofa whilst sleeping and smashed all his teeth in. I've also been in the position where I've transported my mother-in-law to hospital A&E rather than wait for an ambulance.
You know what stuff like this does really happen in the real world.
Edited by Chris Type R on Tuesday 6th November 13:05
Hospital about 2 miles away but it was rush hour gridlock.
I drove at a steady slow pace on the wrong side of the road honking my horn.
Amazingly I didn't get a signal ticket but obviously I didn't care as my boy was in the back with his mouth in a state, blood everywhere.
Yep! it does happen.
Aren't you lot just plain awesome, or what!
My wife went into labour and we caught the bus. In fact two buses. One from Tidworth to Salisbury, and the other from Salisbury to Odstock. Oh, and she was having contractions in McDonalds while she ate a McChicken sandwich to kill some time between buses.
Dying relatives? Wives in labour? Some missing teeth? And you want to play the "I'm exempt from sensible driving" card for that? What a bunch of t
twaffles.Back in May my neighbour kindly transported me to hospital with a badly broken leg after the ambulance controller refused to send an ambulance. It was between midnight and 1 am when I got into the car, and she drove perfectly sensibly and legally all the way there. I was admitted for surgery and a 12 day stay on a trauma ward. How long was the kid with the busted teeth in for? Or the woman about to give birth? And is it really worth risking your own life, and the lives of others, in order to say a last goodbye to someone about to do what we'll all do one day? Dying is, after all, the one guaranteed event in your life post-birth.
No-one has any right to expect the rest of the world to stop, or move aside, in such situations. Principally because the person you expect to move over may well have a far more important reason for being on the road than you. Like maybe the person you rammed off the road on the "infamous" A449 was a midwife on her way to a shift at the hospital to help care for numerous women about to give birth? Or someone like my wife who has been paged to go in to work to drain some poor bugger's chest, or put a stent in an unwell person.
It makes me laugh, it really does. I bet some of you "Big I Am's" are the same a
holes who park over the ends of other peoples drives and then excuse themselves because they're "visiting a dying relative" or some other bogus shiiite. Because sometimes, the drive you are obstructing has the car of that surgeon/doctor/nurse who is on duty to drop everything and go in to work to save lives. Let's hope it's not YOUR granny who needs a stent fitting eh? Because the person who is on duty on Christmas Day to drop everything to put it in can't get out of their drive because your car is in their way. Every second counts, but there's no rush eh? Just some busybody who can't cut a lazy bd some slack at Christmas...TL;DR? Unless you are James Bond on the way to prevent imminent nuclear Armageddon, then there's no good excuse for driving like a twunt...
Typical action of deliberate obstruction on that road, include straddling both lanes for in excess of 10 miles JUST because someone behind doesn't want to do 40mph in a 50, 60 and 70 limit...... And yes i've seen this happen.
Edited by lyonspride on Wednesday 7th November 14:13
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Wow, impressed at the amount of people on here that are not quite getting the picture. I moved out into lane 3, car following was barely catching me, been like that for several miles in fact. I move out slowly and carefully. about 15 seconds of so later i slow due to the start of average speed cameras in roadworks at 50mph. Idiot swerves around and moves out into my lane whilst already on the brakes before he even gets in front!
He even flashed my about 10 seconds after i did the maneuver, that is how the Police know he was there for a few seconds and then decided to undertake and swerve, not that he was loosing control due to me entering the outside lane.
I have people cut into my lane vastly reducing my safe following distance every day, this was nothing like that, he was approaching at a very slow rate and there was plenty of room. Not to mention that swerving into my car in the outside lane of the M1 is not really the appropriate action if i had cut him up now is it!!!
He even flashed my about 10 seconds after i did the maneuver, that is how the Police know he was there for a few seconds and then decided to undertake and swerve, not that he was loosing control due to me entering the outside lane.
I have people cut into my lane vastly reducing my safe following distance every day, this was nothing like that, he was approaching at a very slow rate and there was plenty of room. Not to mention that swerving into my car in the outside lane of the M1 is not really the appropriate action if i had cut him up now is it!!!
TVaRt said:
Wow, impressed at the amount of people on here that are not quite getting the picture. I moved out into lane 3, car following was barely catching me, been like that for several miles in fact. I move out slowly and carefully. about 15 seconds of so later i slow due to the start of average speed cameras in roadworks at 50mph. Idiot swerves around and moves out into my lane whilst already on the brakes before he even gets in front!
He even flashed my about 10 seconds after i did the maneuver, that is how the Police know he was there for a few seconds and then decided to undertake and swerve, not that he was loosing control due to me entering the outside lane.
I have people cut into my lane vastly reducing my safe following distance every day, this was nothing like that, he was approaching at a very slow rate and there was plenty of room. Not to mention that swerving into my car in the outside lane of the M1 is not really the appropriate action if i had cut him up now is it!!!
The bit I've highlighted tells us all we need to know about your driving.He even flashed my about 10 seconds after i did the maneuver, that is how the Police know he was there for a few seconds and then decided to undertake and swerve, not that he was loosing control due to me entering the outside lane.
I have people cut into my lane vastly reducing my safe following distance every day, this was nothing like that, he was approaching at a very slow rate and there was plenty of room. Not to mention that swerving into my car in the outside lane of the M1 is not really the appropriate action if i had cut him up now is it!!!
Not trying to have a go, but...
Original post...
Whilst you will be well aware of what happened from your involvement, your description of events as above really provides lots of ambiguity concerning quite important events, and little clarification which of course the video will provide - such as his closing rate, reason why you decided to change lanes, distance to him when you did, when he bored down the inside did you release braking / increase speed to block him etc... all becomes clear in the video.
So therefore folks speculate. As I said at the outset, I have not seen the video so still in devils advocate mode and not suggesting you did any of the above, and of course there may well have been a very good reason for your lane change in the first place... which seemed to trigger his bad reaction for some unknown reason.
Original post...
TVaRt said:
Basically i have reported to the Police with dash cam footage of an idiot in a 4x4 undertaking and swerving into my car (front LH side) adn they have asked me to go in and make a statement. They do keep asking if i want to pursue the matter, i do feel they dont want to prosecute as its hassle, but the guy almost put me into the central reservation on the M1! I think they have said they will prosecute for driving without due care, to me it seems it should be dangerous driving? Has anyone else been through this type of event and what was the outcome, is it worth pursuing and getting the guy prosecuted? His argument will be that i pulled out into the outside lane to close to the front of his vehicle, there was plenty of space from what i saw, its was a very careful and slowly executed maneuver on camera, it also doesn't have any bearing on the actual impact, apart from the fact that he was pissed off!
thanks
Then...thanks
TVaRt said:
i think what angered him also was i did slow down as we were coming into the roadworks 50 zone, but i didnt just pull out and brake, in fact i dont think i actually braked, just lifted off the throttle.
I want to get the idiot done, its just a PITA with the insurance and report/court time etc.
Now...I want to get the idiot done, its just a PITA with the insurance and report/court time etc.
TVaRt said:
Wow, impressed at the amount of people on here that are not quite getting the picture. I moved out into lane 3, car following was barely catching me, been like that for several miles in fact. I move out slowly and carefully. about 15 seconds of so later i slow due to the start of average speed cameras in roadworks at 50mph. Idiot swerves around and moves out into my lane whilst already on the brakes before he even gets in front!
Hardly surprising at bold above as you really have drip fed very little consistent information since your first two posts. So as some have asked, did he collide with you? Were you really at risk of hitting the divide? The post above seems to be saying not whereas your earlier more dramatic original post mentioned “impact”, now it seems not to be so - “on the brakes before he got in front”. It is all a bit unclear.Whilst you will be well aware of what happened from your involvement, your description of events as above really provides lots of ambiguity concerning quite important events, and little clarification which of course the video will provide - such as his closing rate, reason why you decided to change lanes, distance to him when you did, when he bored down the inside did you release braking / increase speed to block him etc... all becomes clear in the video.
So therefore folks speculate. As I said at the outset, I have not seen the video so still in devils advocate mode and not suggesting you did any of the above, and of course there may well have been a very good reason for your lane change in the first place... which seemed to trigger his bad reaction for some unknown reason.
TVaRt said:
Oh and i will post the Video, once its been to court!
Or never because clearly it was handbags at dawn idiot vs idiot like millions of encounters on our roads each year.Why post that he hit you only to change it to say he pulled in front of you and didn't actually hit you.
Bizarre. Don't waste the time of the Police with this nonsense please.
TVaRt said:
Oh for the ideas that im a grassing little dash cam warrior, i drive a 350bhp TVR and yes a 330D chipped BMW!
Next time you go for a spirited drive, I'm sure there will be someone around; to follow your example and submit dash cam footage of you speeding. It's for your own good.Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff