Scratch on colleagues car
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k themselves. There is no way they could pin this on you without providing the necessary proof. Unless you damaged it with your car i'm not sure why you have asked your insurance co. It has absolutely nothing to do with them.
However they may increase your policy for the info only. I've never had this but many on here have.
As others have said how do we know this wasn't done in the last few days/weeks. Sounds like a chancer who wants someone else to pay and by finding footage of someone walking past historically has given them someone to chase.
I've had the same thing happen to one of my old cars albeit confined to 1 panel and quitr small so much more likely to be accidentally done by a coat/bag. It's something I took on the chin and chalked up to experience.
However they may increase your policy for the info only. I've never had this but many on here have.
As others have said how do we know this wasn't done in the last few days/weeks. Sounds like a chancer who wants someone else to pay and by finding footage of someone walking past historically has given them someone to chase.
I've had the same thing happen to one of my old cars albeit confined to 1 panel and quitr small so much more likely to be accidentally done by a coat/bag. It's something I took on the chin and chalked up to experience.
I asked on here to see what other people’s thoughts are. There is a chance I did walk past his car and catch with a bag/coat, but the whole length of the car seems strange with no photo evidence of the scratches provided how much damage can a bag coat do?
I had some one throw a full coke can at my car before while I was driving and it did nothing.
As I stated I didn’t key his car.
No I have only been off work for 2 months.
I had some one throw a full coke can at my car before while I was driving and it did nothing.
As I stated I didn’t key his car.
No I have only been off work for 2 months.
Op, you aren't giving the appropriate relies for someone who is innocent.
innocent person.
I didn't do this, how dare they. Let me see the video or else.
Guilty Person
I may have done this but have a shocking memory. I've already called my insurance company to see if they'll cover it.
You sound much more like number two. You need to have a careful think how to mitigate this if you did it, and if you didn't stop acting in an equivocal manner
innocent person.
I didn't do this, how dare they. Let me see the video or else.
Guilty Person
I may have done this but have a shocking memory. I've already called my insurance company to see if they'll cover it.
You sound much more like number two. You need to have a careful think how to mitigate this if you did it, and if you didn't stop acting in an equivocal manner
julian64 said:
Op, you aren't giving the appropriate relies for someone who is innocent.
innocent person.
I didn't do this, how dare they. Let me see the video or else.
Guilty Person
I may have done this but have a shocking memory. I've already called my insurance company to see if they'll cover it.
You sound much more like number two. You need to have a careful think how to mitigate this if you did it, and if you didn't stop acting in an equivocal manner
This!innocent person.
I didn't do this, how dare they. Let me see the video or else.
Guilty Person
I may have done this but have a shocking memory. I've already called my insurance company to see if they'll cover it.
You sound much more like number two. You need to have a careful think how to mitigate this if you did it, and if you didn't stop acting in an equivocal manner
If you're innocent, start acting like it.
Aiminghigh123 said:
Du1point8 said:
The OP knows damn well if they scratched someones car, something like that is a massive scratch that would need some pressure to scrach the paint.
If you're asking then it sounds like you know a lot more than you are letting on, and trying to work out if they can tell its you.
Did you scrach the car OP?
No I didn’t scratch his car. If you're asking then it sounds like you know a lot more than you are letting on, and trying to work out if they can tell its you.
Did you scrach the car OP?
I’m asking because I spoke to my car insurance about it. Spoke to car park security and both have been very unhelpful.
I will ask again for the photo and video evidence.
They didn’t actually get back to me about photos just said they didn’t have any to hand.
As I said my manager said I can’t show you the video he didn’t have it. Car park security said we can’t release it for security reasons.
As far as I am concerned I may have walked past his car my jacket has no zips only buttons and my bag has no edges that could cause accidental damage I would have to try pretty hard to cause damage with either.
They didn’t actually get back to me about photos just said they didn’t have any to hand.
As I said my manager said I can’t show you the video he didn’t have it. Car park security said we can’t release it for security reasons.
As far as I am concerned I may have walked past his car my jacket has no zips only buttons and my bag has no edges that could cause accidental damage I would have to try pretty hard to cause damage with either.
Aiminghigh123 said:
I will ask again for the photo and video evidence.
They didn’t actually get back to me about photos just said they didn’t have any to hand.
As I said my manager said I can’t show you the video he didn’t have it. Car park security said we can’t release it for security reasons.
As far as I am concerned I may have walked past his car my jacket has no zips only buttons and my bag has no edges that could cause accidental damage I would have to try pretty hard to cause damage with either.
We’re now at a point where you may have walked past his car, this being the car you didn’t know was his and also can’t remember, but now maybe can remember. They didn’t actually get back to me about photos just said they didn’t have any to hand.
As I said my manager said I can’t show you the video he didn’t have it. Car park security said we can’t release it for security reasons.
As far as I am concerned I may have walked past his car my jacket has no zips only buttons and my bag has no edges that could cause accidental damage I would have to try pretty hard to cause damage with either.
Are you going to answer my other questions? Specifically, is this colleague in any way connected to you having had those months off work?
graylag said:
Aiminghigh123 said:
I will ask again for the photo and video evidence.
They didn’t actually get back to me about photos just said they didn’t have any to hand.
As I said my manager said I can’t show you the video he didn’t have it. Car park security said we can’t release it for security reasons.
As far as I am concerned I may have walked past his car my jacket has no zips only buttons and my bag has no edges that could cause accidental damage I would have to try pretty hard to cause damage with either.
We’re now at a point where you may have walked past his car, this being the car you didn’t know was his and also can’t remember, but now maybe can remember. They didn’t actually get back to me about photos just said they didn’t have any to hand.
As I said my manager said I can’t show you the video he didn’t have it. Car park security said we can’t release it for security reasons.
As far as I am concerned I may have walked past his car my jacket has no zips only buttons and my bag has no edges that could cause accidental damage I would have to try pretty hard to cause damage with either.
Are you going to answer my other questions? Specifically, is this colleague in any way connected to you having had those months off work?
I don’t remember at all walking past his car or that it was his car. I went into the meeting and didn’t know what the meeting was about. Someone’s car has been damaged and we think it might be you. I was pretty shocked. He then went on to explain who it was, what car it was and that having reviewed video evidence it may have been me. He couldn’t show any video evidence when I asked or had any photo evidence. I said I didnt scratch anyone’s car and am pretty sure I would remember scratching someone’s car if I had done it by accident. He then started telling me the video isn’t clear so can’t actually see any faces but I was the closest to the car during that day and they could see me get into my car and got my number plate as I exited that’s how they found out I walked past the car. He also said the camera doesn’t have a big area so they didn’t actually follow me all the way to my car but that car came from the direction I walked. He said if it was me accidentally maybe my insurance would cover it.
I was shocked at the whole thing so just did what he said.
Then emailed me few days later to say the whole side of the car had been scratched so then I got suspicious and decided to investigate myself.
I thought the guy was a nice guy never had a problem with him.
I will happily go to court if need be. I did nothing wrong and don’t believe for one minute walking past a car can cause scratches down the side which photos I have yet to see and video evidence I can’t see. WTF
Also why would I scratch a car in a car park that has CCTV? If you’re gonna do that do it somewhere safer.
Edited by Aiminghigh123 on Tuesday 11th December 16:29
Aiminghigh123 said:
I will happily go to court if need be. I did nothing wrong and don’t believe for one minute walking past a car can cause scratches down the side which photos I have yet to see and video evidence I can’t see. WTF
I'm no expert, but I'd bet that this would never get to court.I'm struggling to see how this is a work matter anyway? It's Public car park that your company just pays for permits so employees can park in.
If your car was stolen, would you go to HR to report it?
Aiminghigh123 said:
So you think I did this deliberately?
A. I wouldn’t scratch someone’s car.
B. I would have to know who’s car to target. I didn’t know he had a BMW.
C. It happened ages ago. I can barely remember things that happened last week let alone month. My misses would vouch for my memory.
The point is that 'they' think you did it, and are being bold enough to accuse you direct. A sensible manager wouldn't get involved, they would just tell the guy who's car got scratched 'he' can't see the CCTV and that 'he' should go through his insurance. Especially if the CCTV is being released by the 3rd party who manage the car park.A. I wouldn’t scratch someone’s car.
B. I would have to know who’s car to target. I didn’t know he had a BMW.
C. It happened ages ago. I can barely remember things that happened last week let alone month. My misses would vouch for my memory.
It looks like they have a grudge against you and have escalated a single minor issue out of all proportions, hence the suggestions from others that there is more too it. Have there been other cars damaged in a similar fashion?
The Surveyor said:
The point is that 'they' think you did it, and are being bold enough to accuse you direct. A sensible manager wouldn't get involved, they would just tell the guy who's car got scratched 'he' can't see the CCTV and that 'he' should go through his insurance. Especially if the CCTV is being released by the 3rd party who manage the car park.
It looks like they have a grudge against you and have escalated a single minor issue out of all proportions, hence the suggestions from others that there is more too it. Have there been other cars damaged in a similar fashion?
No one has complained about things before. I didn’t think about the grudge thing. I have a good work record so can’t pull me up on that. What 2 sick days in a year? It looks like they have a grudge against you and have escalated a single minor issue out of all proportions, hence the suggestions from others that there is more too it. Have there been other cars damaged in a similar fashion?
Never had a complaint from anyone else. In fact we have had quite a turnover of staff recently and few people have said to me, I hope you’re not going.
tell them that if they are so confident of it being you deliberately scratching the car then go to the police and report it as criminal damage.
Has it really taken 4 months for the bloke to realise his car has been scratched and be able to pin point a certain day to go and obtain CCTV and ANPR information from a 3rd party?
Dont go there on the GDPR aspect of them retaining ANPR data from a car park for 4 months just yet but it could be a question you could ask. Also ask to see the data sharing agreement with 3rd party security company and your employer to release your vehicle details
Has it really taken 4 months for the bloke to realise his car has been scratched and be able to pin point a certain day to go and obtain CCTV and ANPR information from a 3rd party?
Dont go there on the GDPR aspect of them retaining ANPR data from a car park for 4 months just yet but it could be a question you could ask. Also ask to see the data sharing agreement with 3rd party security company and your employer to release your vehicle details
Sounds like they are trying to get shot of you.
My wife is going through something very similar, and will probably be fired after a disciplinary hearing later this week.
She was (falsely) accused of smoking on the job in front of a service user (care role, big no-no)...she doesn't smoke.
Her manager engineered the entire complaint, and the only "proof" is the fabricated testimony of an agency worker (Probably on the understanding that said agency worker has been promised a permanent role in my wifes soon to be absence)...they also tried to coerce one of the service users of the home into lying to back the accusation, but she told them to foxtrot-oscar.
In two months working there she has been subjected to racism, bullying, and discrimination, because she is white and educated. The UK care system is totally f**ked.
Assuming you didn't scratch matey's car, this sounds like a ploy to get you moved on.
My wife is going through something very similar, and will probably be fired after a disciplinary hearing later this week.
She was (falsely) accused of smoking on the job in front of a service user (care role, big no-no)...she doesn't smoke.
Her manager engineered the entire complaint, and the only "proof" is the fabricated testimony of an agency worker (Probably on the understanding that said agency worker has been promised a permanent role in my wifes soon to be absence)...they also tried to coerce one of the service users of the home into lying to back the accusation, but she told them to foxtrot-oscar.
In two months working there she has been subjected to racism, bullying, and discrimination, because she is white and educated. The UK care system is totally f**ked.
Assuming you didn't scratch matey's car, this sounds like a ploy to get you moved on.
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