Long range speeding cameras
Discussion
kiethton said:
If 30 is bad try half of london - it's all 20mph which is widely ignored, even by those that police it - no mobile vans around my area though thankfully. Compounding this the CIty launched a consultation on a 15mph limit and enforced speed limiting being fitted to vehicles this week, its only going to get worse!
I was on a Speed Awareness course and heard they are even planning 10 
the idea being it's so slow, you'd rather walk, thus saving the planet. More likely in central London. London councils have imposed their own 20 zones, but few have told DVLA / Highways England leading to confusion where repeater signs conflict with banners on lampposts saying "20's Plenty" 
German traffic officials are apparently looking at our Smart Motorways system to take over there, the un restricted Autobahn numbers are down to just 4 in the country. So many new cameras in London, it's not worth the risk speeding now.
AlexS_LDN said:
I was on a Speed Awareness course and heard they are even planning 10 the idea being it's so slow, you'd rather walk, thus saving the planet. More likely in central London. London councils have imposed their own 20 zones, but few have told DVLA / Highways England leading to confusion where repeater signs conflict with banners on lampposts saying "20's Plenty"
German traffic officials are apparently looking at our Smart Motorways system to take over there, the un restricted Autobahn numbers are down to just 4 in the country. So many new cameras in London, it's not worth the risk speeding now.
More fun and japes from instructors on the speed awareness courses. I wonder where these guys dream it all up from. the idea being it's so slow, you'd rather walk, thus saving the planet. More likely in central London. London councils have imposed their own 20 zones, but few have told DVLA / Highways England leading to confusion where repeater signs conflict with banners on lampposts saying "20's Plenty" German traffic officials are apparently looking at our Smart Motorways system to take over there, the un restricted Autobahn numbers are down to just 4 in the country. So many new cameras in London, it's not worth the risk speeding now.
Maybe they have a forum where they discuss the next b
ks rumour to spread. 
Repel_Max said:
More fun and japes from instructors on the speed awareness courses. I wonder where these guys dream it all up from.
Maybe they have a forum where they discuss the next bks rumour to spread.
The woman preaching at the course I attended was adamant that driving in a lower gear did not increase fuel consumption. I think she honestly believed the propaganda she was spouting. She was an upper echelon, tin foil hat wearing, Brake believer, barking mad she was and not in an endearing way like a wayward aunt. The Victorians had the right idea, lock 'em up in a padded room and sever their frontal lobes.Maybe they have a forum where they discuss the next b
ks rumour to spread. Fortunately her counterpart compensated for her deluded shriekings by being sensibly pragmatic and he actually imparted some useful information.
Lizzyweb said:
Yeah there’s a rant coming and I was clocked doing 48 in a 30 zone but by no means at all am I bad or unsafe on the roads, and this is what’s really irritating about it??
Lizzyweb said:
I’m not going to slow down, so find another arse to slap
Yeah ‘don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time’, well I can so??
I await your fourth thread on the subject.Yeah ‘don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time’, well I can so??
Timbuktu said:
Lizzyweb said:
Yeah there’s a rant coming and I was clocked doing 48 in a 30 zone but by no means at all am I bad or unsafe on the roads, and this is what’s really irritating about it??
Lizzyweb said:
I’m not going to slow down, so find another arse to slap
Yeah ‘don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time’, well I can so??
I await your fourth thread on the subject.Yeah ‘don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time’, well I can so??
te that much . And don’t quote bits out of my post. Have you not heard of ‘context’?Algarve said:
I've no idea why you think you should get an advance warning that you're about to be busted for breaking the law, and be allowed to change what you're doing and avoid a punishment. That isn't logical at all.
The ORIGONAL idea was that Cameras were al about ROAD SAFETY, and sped over the lolipop was regarded as unsafe. So it was decreed that all cameras should be highlighted and advance warning given to help drivers comply with the speed limit. That is education. But there's a need to generate income, so cameras are now hidden. Make the cameras visible and advertised in advance and that 's about safety. Hide them and it all comes down to CASH GENERATION. Who me said:
Algarve said:
I've no idea why you think you should get an advance warning that you're about to be busted for breaking the law, and be allowed to change what you're doing and avoid a punishment. That isn't logical at all.
The ORIGONAL idea was that Cameras were al about ROAD SAFETY, and sped over the lolipop was regarded as unsafe. So it was decreed that all cameras should be highlighted and advance warning given to help drivers comply with the speed limit. That is education. But there's a need to generate income, so cameras are now hidden. Make the cameras visible and advertised in advance and that 's about safety. Hide them and it all comes down to CASH GENERATION. However the best way is a mixture of both overt & covert, which strangely enough is what we have. It's not at all difficult to know where the majority are. We don't after all ban sat nav companies utilising camera site warnings like some other countries do.
pingu393 said:
The irony is that if the OP had been doing 60 until 20 metres before the 30 sign, slammed on the anchors to reduce speed to 30, no offence would have been recorded.
So much for "safety" cameras.
I kind of agree, but that method of dealing with speed limits is not the only option available to people. And very soon it'll be gone as av cams prevail.So much for "safety" cameras.
Bert
Who me said:
Algarve said:
I've no idea why you think you should get an advance warning that you're about to be busted for breaking the law, and be allowed to change what you're doing and avoid a punishment. That isn't logical at all.
The ORIGONAL idea was that Cameras were al about ROAD SAFETY, and sped over the lolipop was regarded as unsafe. So it was decreed that all cameras should be highlighted and advance warning given to help drivers comply with the speed limit. That is education. But there's a need to generate income, so cameras are now hidden. Make the cameras visible and advertised in advance and that 's about safety. Hide them and it all comes down to CASH GENERATION. Lizzyweb said:
Timbuktu said:
Lizzyweb said:
Yeah there’s a rant coming and I was clocked doing 48 in a 30 zone but by no means at all am I bad or unsafe on the roads, and this is what’s really irritating about it??
Lizzyweb said:
I’m not going to slow down, so find another arse to slap
Yeah ‘don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time’, well I can so??
I await your fourth thread on the subject.Yeah ‘don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time’, well I can so??
te that much . And don’t quote bits out of my post. Have you not heard of ‘context’?AlexS_LDN said:
kiethton said:
If 30 is bad try half of london - it's all 20mph which is widely ignored, even by those that police it - no mobile vans around my area though thankfully. Compounding this the CIty launched a consultation on a 15mph limit and enforced speed limiting being fitted to vehicles this week, its only going to get worse!
I was on a Speed Awareness course and heard they are even planning 10 the idea being it's so slow, you'd rather walk, thus saving the planet. More likely in central London. London councils have imposed their own 20 zones, but few have told DVLA / Highways England leading to confusion where repeater signs conflict with banners on lampposts saying "20's Plenty" German traffic officials are apparently looking at our Smart Motorways system to take over there, the un restricted Autobahn numbers are down to just 4 in the country. So many new cameras in London, it's not worth the risk speeding now.
Davidonly said:
I must have imagined the other 5 or 6 extra Autobahns I drove in the summer with no restrictions then! And they already have smart motorways. Variable speed-limits. But German drivers don't need any where near as many speed cameras.
http://autobahnspeedhunter.com/
Lizzyweb said:
Right, advice please or opinions on what the point is of these ‘long range cameras’, which seem to be popping up all over like a bad rash. Yeah there’s a rant coming and I was clocked doing 48 in a 30 zone but by no means at all am I bad or unsafe on the roads, and this is what’s really irritating about it??
Bloody ‘long range camera’ was pointing a good half mile up the road waiting to catch people entering the lowered speed limit zone but it was my undetstanding that you had to be able to at least see the speed vehicles at a reasonable distance so you could have chance to alter your speed? I can’t see half a mile down the road and the the van was partly obscure by a parked car. I also don’t understand why you’d be catching traffic that far out of the village when surely the whole point is to catch speeders going through a village?
It’s straight for almost a mile and a half, along the bit where I was travelling and people do put their foot down. No hazards and you could assume the 30 zone didn’t start until further on if you’d not seen the signs by the roadside, so really it just gets everyone’s back up around there and I doubt it does anything for road safety.
There's one near me in a van who sits in a 20 zone outside a school (in the bus layby) but his camera does people doing 30 in the 30 zone before it. He does them for doing 30 mph in a 20 zone, when they are doing 30mph in a 30 zone.Bloody ‘long range camera’ was pointing a good half mile up the road waiting to catch people entering the lowered speed limit zone but it was my undetstanding that you had to be able to at least see the speed vehicles at a reasonable distance so you could have chance to alter your speed? I can’t see half a mile down the road and the the van was partly obscure by a parked car. I also don’t understand why you’d be catching traffic that far out of the village when surely the whole point is to catch speeders going through a village?
It’s straight for almost a mile and a half, along the bit where I was travelling and people do put their foot down. No hazards and you could assume the 30 zone didn’t start until further on if you’d not seen the signs by the roadside, so really it just gets everyone’s back up around there and I doubt it does anything for road safety.
No way to prove against it.
So I do 20 in the 30 and have people flashing me and swearing at me for going to slowly.
mehmehmeh said:
There's one near me in a van who sits in a 20 zone outside a school (in the bus layby) but his camera does people doing 30 in the 30 zone before it. He does them for doing 30 mph in a 20 zone, when they are doing 30mph in a 30 zone.
No way to prove against it.
So I do 20 in the 30 and have people flashing me and swearing at me for going to slowly.
If only there was a picture or video to show that the car was in fact in a 30 limit. ..No way to prove against it.
So I do 20 in the 30 and have people flashing me and swearing at me for going to slowly.
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