Guy jailed for 102mph on the motorway

Guy jailed for 102mph on the motorway

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irish boy

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3,522 posts

235 months

Saturday 19th January 2019
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There is a massive crackdown on speeding in the South of Ireland coming in this year, just as a warning to anyone traveling over to be careful and watch their speed.

This judge is getting ahead of the game. Clear bright motorway in the evening, no priors, no stupid excuses and 3 kids at home with a wife that doesn't drive, 2 years ban and 2 months in jail.

Will certainly change the flow of the motorways which are large and fairly fast once you leave Dublin area, I'd be down twice a month and have not noticed much change yet with 120kmh still being slow/middle lane speed but a few more of these headlines will put the wind up people.



https://www.limerickleader.ie/news/home/358043/jai...

Tony1963

4,699 posts

161 months

Saturday 19th January 2019
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It looks to me that there might be more to this that the newspaper isn’t reporting.

Pica-Pica

13,621 posts

83 months

Saturday 19th January 2019
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Tony1963 said:
It looks to me that there might be more to this that the newspaper isn’t reporting.
Agree. He was done for dangerous driving, not (just) speeding. Although I do not know how the Gardaí view these things.

vonhosen

40,198 posts

216 months

Saturday 19th January 2019
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Pica-Pica said:
Tony1963 said:
It looks to me that there might be more to this that the newspaper isn’t reporting.
Agree. He was done for dangerous driving, not (just) speeding. Although I do not know how the Gardaí view these things.
Perhaps they share the interpretation of the Scottish courts.

irish boy

Original Poster:

3,522 posts

235 months

Saturday 19th January 2019
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vonhosen said:
Pica-Pica said:
Tony1963 said:
It looks to me that there might be more to this that the newspaper isn’t reporting.
Agree. He was done for dangerous driving, not (just) speeding. Although I do not know how the Gardaí view these things.
Perhaps they share the interpretation of the Scottish courts.
Under the new rules 30kph over is dangerous driving.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46524583

vonhosen

40,198 posts

216 months

Saturday 19th January 2019
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irish boy said:
vonhosen said:
Pica-Pica said:
Tony1963 said:
It looks to me that there might be more to this that the newspaper isn’t reporting.
Agree. He was done for dangerous driving, not (just) speeding. Although I do not know how the Gardaí view these things.
Perhaps they share the interpretation of the Scottish courts.
Under the new rules 30kph over is dangerous driving.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46524583
Even tighter than the Scottish Courts then.

WJNB

2,637 posts

160 months

Saturday 19th January 2019
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3 children & the sole driver in the household - what a wonderful & responsible example he is setting, a REAL role model.

Muzzer79

9,806 posts

186 months

Saturday 19th January 2019
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WJNB said:
3 children & the sole driver in the household - what a wonderful & responsible example he is setting, a REAL role model.
Do you get vertigo, sitting on your high horse?

I’ll grant you that one should consider the consequences before any form of speeding but I’ll wager there’s a large portion of people on here who have got right-foot-heavy one day and nudged it too far.

This driver has been unlucky I would say but throwing people in jail for doing a ton seems excessive.

As for role model, he’s hardly a one man crimewave. rolleyes

Tankrizzo

7,247 posts

192 months

Saturday 19th January 2019
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We won't be doing that here, the government are looking at freeing people on short sentences as it is...

stu67

804 posts

187 months

Saturday 19th January 2019
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I’ll have to be a bit more careful next time I’m over. Where my family are from is Co Wexford just at the end (presently) of the N11 motorway down from Dublin. The motorway is generally empty in comparison to anything in the UK, and it’s easy to get a bit carried away.

No fixed cameras in Co Wexford I think, a few in Dublin if I can remember, but there are plenty of camera vans. In typical Irish fashion the placement of these is telegraphed on local radio so no excuses really.

Out in the countryside plenty of people think they are rally drivers and I’ve seen a couple of horrific crashes mainly on the fast single carriageways so can understand to some extent

macushla

1,135 posts

65 months

Saturday 19th January 2019
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irish boy said:
vonhosen said:
Pica-Pica said:
Tony1963 said:
It looks to me that there might be more to this that the newspaper isn’t reporting.
Agree. He was done for dangerous driving, not (just) speeding. Although I do not know how the Gardaí view these things.
Perhaps they share the interpretation of the Scottish courts.
Under the new rules 30kph over is dangerous driving.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46524583
That says proposed rules. Have they been brought into law?

Marvib

528 posts

145 months

Saturday 19th January 2019
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macushla said:
That says proposed rules. Have they been brought into law?
"This judge is getting ahead of the game." From the OP.

Black_S3

2,667 posts

187 months

Saturday 19th January 2019
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Can't see why it would need to be written in law that a specified amount over the speed limit can be accepted as dangerous driving given the current definition?

macushla

1,135 posts

65 months

Saturday 19th January 2019
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Marvib said:
macushla said:
That says proposed rules. Have they been brought into law?
"This judge is getting ahead of the game." From the OP.
Seems that the judge isn’t the only one

irish boy said:
Under the new rules 30kph over is dangerous driving.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46524583

irish boy

Original Poster:

3,522 posts

235 months

Saturday 19th January 2019
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macushla said:
Marvib said:
macushla said:
That says proposed rules. Have they been brought into law?
"This judge is getting ahead of the game." From the OP.
Seems that the judge isn’t the only one

irish boy said:
Under the new rules 30kph over is dangerous driving.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46524583
I didn’t say the rules were in play yet but I’ll change it to “under the new proposed rules”. Read my first post and it says coming this year. The bill will be most likely passed within a few weeks.

donkmeister

7,998 posts

99 months

Saturday 19th January 2019
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This is crazy, the new system doesn't make any allowance for the proportionality of the speed vs the limit or the situation and conditions...

https://www.thejournal.ie/speeding-fines-4388622-D...

Most would say 80kph in a 50kph residential street with kids running about is a bit different to 150kph on an empty, clear motorway. One is almost certainly introducing an unacceptable level of risk, the other almost certainly isn't. Well done Ireland, you've outdone not just the French but even the Swiss for draconian speeding penalties!!! nono

Surely there will be a statutory defence in Irish law if the speed limit was wearing a thong before it was violated?

g3org3y

20,606 posts

190 months

Saturday 19th January 2019
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Pica-Pica said:
Tony1963 said:
It looks to me that there might be more to this that the newspaper isn’t reporting.
Agree. He was done for dangerous driving, not (just) speeding. Although I do not know how the Gardaí view these things.
Dangerous driving because of speed excess or other actions?

Regardless 102mph on a motorway should not result in jail time.

Judge Marian O’Leary appears to be a fking idiot.

jamiem555

750 posts

210 months

Sunday 20th January 2019
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Do they still ignore UK reg cars? I had several high speed runs in the south and the one and only time I was stopped was for well in excess of 100 mph in my Impreza. Quiet word and on my way.

codenamecueball

529 posts

88 months

Sunday 20th January 2019
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jamiem555 said:
Do they still ignore UK reg cars? I had several high speed runs in the south and the one and only time I was stopped was for well in excess of 100 mph in my Impreza. Quiet word and on my way.
No, and a dangerous driving conviction in the republic can be applied on your UK licence.

See here.

ging84

8,827 posts

145 months

Sunday 20th January 2019
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Black_S3 said:
Can't see why it would need to be written in law that a specified amount over the speed limit can be accepted as dangerous driving given the current definition?
I think the opposite , someone sets a maximum penalty for a particular crime, that should be the maximum penalty someone should ever be able to receive for that crime.
If the people do not support the maximum sentence for speeding to include jail, then it should happen.
I don't think they should be passing a law that allows speed alone to be considered a different crime to speeding, but atleast if they pass a law it has been through government so has had the support of the people.
The situation in Scotland is that this situation has been slipped in by the back door, you won't find any international news articles reporting the proposal, because there wasn't one, it was cooked up by a bunch of unelected people and rolled out with no public awareness what so ever.