Hit and run - cyclist knocked down
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PAULJ5555 said:
stinkyspanner said:
That happened to me when I was a kid, I just got on with my life
One word = COMPO
ks.Friend of mine was cycling home and got taken out by a minicab who ran a red light.
Life changing injuries and had to give up work. t
t tried to drive off but fortunately there was an unmarked police car waiting at the lights who put a stop to that idea.Was near Stratford as well.
Driver needs to be tracked down and charged and yes if necessary compensation for busted bike and injuries. Compo culture may be a thing but it is also necessary in some cases.
Chances are though that it’ll be no insurance/licence/disqual/etc.
valiant said:
PAULJ5555 said:
stinkyspanner said:
That happened to me when I was a kid, I just got on with my life
One word = COMPOks.Friend of mine was cycling home and got taken out by a minicab who ran a red light.
Life changing injuries and had to give up work. t
t tried to drive off but fortunately there was an unmarked police car waiting at the lights who put a stop to that idea.Was near Stratford as well.
Driver needs to be tracked down and charged and yes if necessary compensation for busted bike and injuries. Compo culture may be a thing but it is also necessary in some cases.
Chances are though that it’ll be no insurance/licence/disqual/etc.
chow pan toon said:
I'd expect to be compensated for damage to my bike wouldn't you?
But this is PH. "Hypocrisy Matters" and all that good stuff, yes?Or would all those scoffing at the idea of "com-pen-say-shun" for the snowflake cyclist just shrug their shoulders and pay for their own repairs if someone in a car cut a corner and smashed up the front end of their M3/MX5/Lambo/etc?
So many threads asking for advice on "how do I get at fault driver to admit their fault", and people moaning incessantly because their insurer went 50/50 on the claim. Perhaps they should just shut the f
k up and "get on with their lives" too? I certainly wish the "I got caught speeding bang-to-rights, but want to wriggle out of the consequences" mob would shut the fk up, take the points like (wo)men, and get on with their lives.But a cyclist expecting to be treated the same as a motorist on the roads? That's just too much to accept...
I got knocked off my bike at a roundabout by a 'SMIDSY' driver. He tried to drive away, but a witness blocked his "escape". Sadly there's no charge for conspiring or attempting to leave the scene of an accident, but hey? "All" I suffered was a broken bike and a shattered shoulder blade. All I wanted was his insurer to pay for my bike and the clothing the paramedics cut off me. But his insurer wouldn't deal direct with me and advised I get a solicitor after I insisted on a new-for-old replacement. So I did, and instead of the £1500 I'd hoped to get, I ended up receiving £14,000 after the solicitor took his agreed cut, and they paid for a long stint of physiotherapy. Or should I have simply "shut the f
k up and got on with life" while enduring 5 months of constant pain and being unable to wash and dress myself?As for this...
stinkyspanner said:
It's not willy waving you cretin. When it happened to me it hurt a lot, my bike got bent in half, and I felt pretty upset. As much as I wanted a bit of sympathy and attention it was pretty clear that there was no significant harm done, no-one was really interested as I could still walk so I put it down to experience. Much to my disappointment I still made it to school albeit a bit late, and as stated got on with my life.
In short, tough luck.
Compensation my arse
... In short, tough luck.
Compensation my arse
...it's as clear a case of internet willy-waving as I've ever seen.Still. There's one good thing coming out of this frank exchange of views. I'm now absolved of any residual guilt I still had over the incident I had riding home from school one day. I was just cycling along, not paying attention to the road ahead, and all of a sudden "Crash!" I'd only gone and ridden into the back of a parked Austin Princess. I picked myself, and the bike, up off the floor, had a swift look around to see if anyone saw the crash, then scarpered, toot sweet (for the benefit of those with an education, yes of course I know it should be "tout de suite", but there are so many thickos on here...
). Hopefully that presented the owner of the Princess with the opportunity to practice the art of "sucking things up and getting on with life" when they discovered the damage. After all, there was "no significant harm done"... 
Now all I need is someone to tell me not to worry about the 10p packet of POLO mints I stole from a shop for a dare once. I went back as an adult to see if I could make amends by buying a packet of Polos and not taking them. But the shop had closed and been turned back into a house. I fear that it was that packet of Polos I stole (one time only thing, never stolen anything since) that may have tipped the shop over the edge and put them out of business. Someone tell me it's OK, and it's not my fault. Please? After all, there was "no significant harm done", and the shop owner should surely just have "got on with life" by now?
Ignore some of the bullst on here... definitely get it reported and make sure it’s followed up as this kind of thing is the thin end of the wedge, and people shouldn’t be allowed to get away with it.
Whilst s172 notices are seen as draconian in relation to speeding, they are exceptionally useful with stuff like this since it forces the RK (very often the driver) to place themselves there or as a consolation prize end up with 6 points... we’ve used these on a number of occasions with ‘pool car’ type muppets and they are very effective.
Obviously you do need a reg. good luck!
t on here... definitely get it reported and make sure it’s followed up as this kind of thing is the thin end of the wedge, and people shouldn’t be allowed to get away with it. Whilst s172 notices are seen as draconian in relation to speeding, they are exceptionally useful with stuff like this since it forces the RK (very often the driver) to place themselves there or as a consolation prize end up with 6 points... we’ve used these on a number of occasions with ‘pool car’ type muppets and they are very effective.
Obviously you do need a reg. good luck!
yellowjack said:
Now all I need is someone to tell me not to worry about the 10p packet of POLO mints I stole from a shop for a dare once.
I think I read about that, IIRC try as they might the shopkeeper was unable to get on with their life. After the tragic circumstances of the suicide the family decided it was best to convert the shop to a house in case it ever happened again. If there were still front counters this would be a hoot to walk in and try to hand yourself in for. Edited by Graveworm on Wednesday 23 January 16:40
carreauchompeur said:
Ignore some of the bullst on here... definitely get it reported and make sure it’s followed up as this kind of thing is the thin end of the wedge, and people shouldn’t be allowed to get away with it.
Whilst s172 notices are seen as draconian in relation to speeding, they are exceptionally useful with stuff like this since it forces the RK (very often the driver) to place themselves there or as a consolation prize end up with 6 points... we’ve used these on a number of occasions with ‘pool car’ type muppets and they are very effective.
Obviously you do need a reg. good luck!
Cheers, housemate is still laid up at the minute so haven't had a chance to chat to her to see if the police have responded yet. There's so much CCTV around there that a reg must have been caught, does anyone how easy it is to get footage from local council controlled cameras?t on here... definitely get it reported and make sure it’s followed up as this kind of thing is the thin end of the wedge, and people shouldn’t be allowed to get away with it. Whilst s172 notices are seen as draconian in relation to speeding, they are exceptionally useful with stuff like this since it forces the RK (very often the driver) to place themselves there or as a consolation prize end up with 6 points... we’ve used these on a number of occasions with ‘pool car’ type muppets and they are very effective.
Obviously you do need a reg. good luck!
j_4m said:
Cheers, housemate is still laid up at the minute so haven't had a chance to chat to her to see if the police have responded yet. There's so much CCTV around there that a reg must have been caught, does anyone how easy it is to get footage from local council controlled cameras?
Data subject access request IIRC. Do not rely on the Police to get the footage- they won’t.You’d have more luck asking on a cycling forum, fewer morons also.
Go back to the scene, check the camera's in the area that will have covered the scene and the environment leading to and from the scene.
The camera's should have details of who they are owned by, you can then use a subject access request to get the footage: https://ico.org.uk/your-data-matters/cctv/
Do this ASAP, many systems over-write their storage so you may need to be quick to get the footage.
The operator of the camera must provide the footage within 30 days of the request.
Again, I would stress - do not rely on the Police to do this, in my own experience, and anecdotally from many others, they either simply won't do it, or will do it too late.
I was side-swiped by a taxi outside a Police Station, the camera's of which covered the scene - and the Police didn't bother to get their own footage before it was over-written.
The camera's should have details of who they are owned by, you can then use a subject access request to get the footage: https://ico.org.uk/your-data-matters/cctv/
Do this ASAP, many systems over-write their storage so you may need to be quick to get the footage.
The operator of the camera must provide the footage within 30 days of the request.
Again, I would stress - do not rely on the Police to do this, in my own experience, and anecdotally from many others, they either simply won't do it, or will do it too late.
I was side-swiped by a taxi outside a Police Station, the camera's of which covered the scene - and the Police didn't bother to get their own footage before it was over-written.
Dammit said:
Go back to the scene, check the camera's in the area that will have covered the scene and the environment leading to and from the scene.
The camera's should have details of who they are owned by, you can then use a subject access request to get the footage: https://ico.org.uk/your-data-matters/cctv/
Do this ASAP, many systems over-write their storage so you may need to be quick to get the footage.
The operator of the camera must provide the footage within 30 days of the request.
Again, I would stress - do not rely on the Police to do this, in my own experience, and anecdotally from many others, they either simply won't do it, or will do it too late.
I was side-swiped by a taxi outside a Police Station, the camera's of which covered the scene - and the Police didn't bother to get their own footage before it was over-written.
I am making no attempt to defend the police, but the CCTV people should only give identifying pictures of you or your number plate... If it captures the actual incident they may leave it in, but to and from you may struggle. The camera's should have details of who they are owned by, you can then use a subject access request to get the footage: https://ico.org.uk/your-data-matters/cctv/
Do this ASAP, many systems over-write their storage so you may need to be quick to get the footage.
The operator of the camera must provide the footage within 30 days of the request.
Again, I would stress - do not rely on the Police to do this, in my own experience, and anecdotally from many others, they either simply won't do it, or will do it too late.
I was side-swiped by a taxi outside a Police Station, the camera's of which covered the scene - and the Police didn't bother to get their own footage before it was over-written.
Edited by Graveworm on Thursday 24th January 19:20
j_4m said:
Housemate is all recovered, save a few nasty bruises up and down one side of her. Police wrote to her, no further action after reviewing CCTV evidence as they couldn't identify the car.
This sucks. If a car hit me and drove off leaving me injured I'd be livid. I'd want to hunt them down and do nasty things to them with a teaspoon.However if the police told me that they couldn't identify the car then I'd wonder whether this was worth pursuing, perhaps just be thankful that it wasn't worse, and try and heal up and get back on the bike ASAP. It would take a lot of willpower to let this lie though.
Your friend could initially nag the police to try a bit harder - they have probably identified the type of vehicle but not the actual one, and may have resource to do this if pushed.
If that doesn't work then they could try and privately take this further as there are those who, for example, specialise in CCTV analysis and who are actually used by the police and insurance companies when a case is serious enough to warrant it. They may have more luck identifying the actual vehicle.
To take this in any way it seems that your friend needs proper legal advice and very probably deep pockets, a hard nose, and lots of time and luck.
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