Road rage attack, police 'building' a case?

Road rage attack, police 'building' a case?

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lbc

3,212 posts

216 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2019
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Dromedary66 said:
strain said:
FIL refused to let him in and the stayed side by side for 1/2 mile (FIL in a big curtainside van) and at some point the guy has hit his mirror off the van...

...dash cam footage
Yeh, sounds about right for a dash cammer engineering an altercation.
I bet if there was no dashcam this would never have happened.

A case of another DCW?

paintman

7,669 posts

189 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2019
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On the basis that your FIL deliberately blocked the other driver I wonder whether the CPS are considering any action against your FIL.
Could be an interesting day in court.

Greendubber

13,128 posts

202 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2019
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It'll be sat with the CPS I'd imagine. They're utterly st and an incident if this nature will be sitting beneath a whole host of more serious incidents.

I bet they've not even looked at it yet.

markjmd

549 posts

67 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2019
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paintman said:
On the basis that your FIL deliberately blocked the other driver I wonder whether the CPS are considering any action against your FIL.
Could be an interesting day in court.
Prosecute him for failing to make way for an idiot in the outside lane who was trying to cut across him because he'd left his manoeuvre too late, when said idiot could have just slowed down instead and cut in behind him? What exactly would the CPS charge him with?

lbc

3,212 posts

216 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2019
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markjmd said:
paintman said:
On the basis that your FIL deliberately blocked the other driver I wonder whether the CPS are considering any action against your FIL.
Could be an interesting day in court.
Prosecute him for failing to make way for an idiot in the outside lane who was trying to cut across him because he'd left his manoeuvre too late, when said idiot could have just slowed down instead and cut in behind him? What exactly would the CPS charge him with?
Equally the FIL could have just slowed down and let the other driver in.

There was no need for a conflict, life is too short.
The other driver could have pulled a gun out and boom. Waste of a life over a bit of road space.

standardman

424 posts

167 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2019
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Could fil he be charged with dangerous driving or an action liable to cause a breach of the peace ?

Graveworm

8,476 posts

70 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2019
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standardman said:
Could fil he be charged with dangerous driving or an action liable to cause a breach of the peace ?
Anything is possible but given the info in this thread, it would be harsh to talk about offences. Especially as the CPS actually have a video of the incident and are making their mind up as we type.
But he definitely won't be charged with anything to do with breach of the peace unless this is in Scotland.

anonymous-user

53 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2019
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15 days is no time.

As other have said, get him to contact the officer dealing and get an update.

Jag_NE

2,949 posts

99 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2019
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Typical dash cam knacker. Behaved like a road captain and then got called out by someone who was prepared to crank it up a couple of notches more than he was. The other bloke is clearly radged of course. If you want to stand your ground be prepared to stand it. Sounds like a weird set of circumstances with the half mile blockage however.

daveinhampshire

527 posts

125 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2019
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It takes months for simple matters to get through the system that involve zero work, in this case there is clearly more too it than even the OP has suggested. If I was investigating the pair of them would be charged, there's no smoke without fire. The sentencing would reflect how far their petty temper tantrums went.

echazfraz

772 posts

146 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2019
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I'm frankly appalled at this...






































































...where's the fking video?!

We need to judge for ourselves whether your FIL is a dash-cam warrioring gammon of the highest order or a competent driver who just so happened to meet Kenneth Noye's even more deranged wee brother.

roadsmash

2,622 posts

69 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2019
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Gutted for your FIL.

Not!

roadsmash

2,622 posts

69 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2019
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markjmd said:
Prosecute him for failing to make way for an idiot in the outside lane who was trying to cut across him because he'd left his manoeuvre too late, when said idiot could have just slowed down instead and cut in behind him? What exactly would the CPS charge him with?
I suppose you’ve never made a mistake while driving then?

So many people are worried about someone getting in ahead of them.

Pathetic.

echazfraz

772 posts

146 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2019
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On a more serious note, if the extent of "refused to him in" was maintaining a constant speed then I don't see too much wrong with that from your FIL. It shouldn't be that hard for a competent driver to find a gap and not cut someone up (in the vehicular sense) in the process. If it consisted of speed matching whatever the 'rager did then that's pretty naughty.

And of course neither of those scenarios warrants getting his van panned in and threats of murderation.

I'd call the copper dealing with the case and ask for an update, especially if your FIL is sat worrying about it.

paintman

7,669 posts

189 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2019
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markjmd said:
paintman said:
On the basis that your FIL deliberately blocked the other driver I wonder whether the CPS are considering any action against your FIL.
Could be an interesting day in court.
Prosecute him for failing to make way for an idiot in the outside lane who was trying to cut across him because he'd left his manoeuvre too late, when said idiot could have just slowed down instead and cut in behind him? What exactly would the CPS charge him with?
Had the OP's FIL given room then this may not have happened. By the OP's account he chose to do the exact opposite.
So consideration could be given to:
Dangerous driving.
DWDCA.
Driving without reasonable consideration.

If someone wants to try & force their way in - whilst it's irritating esp in queues of traffic - I'd rather have them in front of me & off to bother someone else than up my arse or find that the person you've chosen to pick an argument with is a nutjob. Plenty of headlines to be found of road rage ending as serious assault or death.

Elliot2000

785 posts

175 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2019
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KAgantua said:
Your father in law is a cretin and he thoroughly deserved everything he could have got.
Really?! So someone drives like a tt, then carries out an aggressive attack on someone who didn’t want to put up with him driving like a tt.

Even if he should have just let him cut in to save hassle- the response of the other driver is extreme to say the least and if he has previous with the police for this sort of thing (which appears maybe he has) then maybe it’s accelerated getting him off the road for good or possibly a prison sentence and stopping him doing it in future to somewhat who might be more vulnerable and intimidated.


anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2019
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You mention (op) cutting in from the "middle lane" to make an exit. Did your Fil really block someone exiting the motorway out of "principle", leaving them sat in lane 2 on a motorway /DC ?

I don't condone violence but I'm leaning on the side of "play silly games......."

ED209

5,740 posts

243 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2019
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standardman said:
Could fil he be charged with dangerous driving or an action liable to cause a breach of the peace ?


As breach of the peace is not a criminal offence this is not possible.

coldel

7,731 posts

145 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2019
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Seriously. Has no one slating the FIL on here ever edged a driver out of changing lane who they thought was being a bit cheeky? OK we havent seen the footage he could have been a bit naughty and deliberately blocked the guy out - regardless the response was massively disproportionate.

Richard-G

1,668 posts

174 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2019
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KAgantua said:
Your father in law is a cretin and he thoroughly deserved everything he could have got.
given the other chap threatened to kill him you think he deserves anything he could’ve got?

do me a favour, lock yourself in the toilet, look yourself in the mirror and ask yourself if what you typed was REALLY what you meant? if it is, then you have some deep rooted problems you need to address ASAP.