Reporting crimes to the police
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Get a decent referee's whistle.
Sounds daft, but blowing that through an open window makes a hell of a racket and isn't just ignored like house alarms, car alarms etc.
As with the very bright, motion activated lights mentioned previously, it works by drawing a lot of attention to the scrote(s) - something they seem to try and avoid.
Its also easy to keep next to the bed.
Not suggesting you try and dominate the stairs with one though.
Sounds daft, but blowing that through an open window makes a hell of a racket and isn't just ignored like house alarms, car alarms etc.
As with the very bright, motion activated lights mentioned previously, it works by drawing a lot of attention to the scrote(s) - something they seem to try and avoid.
Its also easy to keep next to the bed.
Not suggesting you try and dominate the stairs with one though.
PAULJ5555 said:
Can you paint some of this on top of the gate/walls, if anything will annoy him and rewin his tracksuit
https://www.newventureproducts.co.uk/anti-climb-se...
Already done that and it definitely spoilt his flash trainers and Nike joggers , he's that close on the cctv ! I've just spent a couple of hours this afternoon with the pressure washer cleaning his footprints off the paving . I've also put gripper rods on the rear side of their access points but they wear black builders gloves , I watched the fhttps://www.newventureproducts.co.uk/anti-climb-se...
ker put them on as he was checking out the car . They've tried to get in when I'm obviously in the house so not even that puts them off . I've done everything I can so I'm guessing it's personal now as I've chased them 3 times now and discovered the other two attempts ,it's maybe a challenge to them .
Caught him on 5 of 6 cameras but as he thought there's no one at home he's just swaggering around , it should be disturbing but im getting used to it , if they are taking it personally so am I . The wife's not great about it and a couple of of the other girls that live in the street whose husbands work away aren't happy .
Night shift again for a couple of days at least , I'm now like a scout , prepared to say the least !!
carboy2017 said:
Indeed I also see a lot of time wasted by Surrey police on social media for stuff thats low on priority when resources are limited,like have a fun a safe way during guy fawkes night or how they respects LGBT etc ,I feel all that time and resources should be put on roadside patrols and proactive policing
All what time and resources? Would you like to quantify how many officer hours you believe have been "wasted" on this please?Pothole said:
carboy2017 said:
Indeed I also see a lot of time wasted by Surrey police on social media for stuff thats low on priority when resources are limited,like have a fun a safe way during guy fawkes night or how they respects LGBT etc ,I feel all that time and resources should be put on roadside patrols and proactive policing
All what time and resources? Would you like to quantify how many officer hours you believe have been "wasted" on this please?Forget about time.
Police forces and civilians are complaining that the police are underfunded and numbers being cut etc. Some scenes of real crimes where people's homes have been entered are not being visited as a result.
And yet, clearly police forces/govt are paying people to post hashtags on social media bragging about the latest shoplifter, speeder or cannabis smoker they busted.
I have no idea where the strategy for this is formulated (police or govt or both), but it seems to me that priorities are somewhat uncalibrated.
Feels to me like the police spend more resources on "developing the brand" these days than they have ever done.
Police forces and civilians are complaining that the police are underfunded and numbers being cut etc. Some scenes of real crimes where people's homes have been entered are not being visited as a result.
And yet, clearly police forces/govt are paying people to post hashtags on social media bragging about the latest shoplifter, speeder or cannabis smoker they busted.
I have no idea where the strategy for this is formulated (police or govt or both), but it seems to me that priorities are somewhat uncalibrated.
Feels to me like the police spend more resources on "developing the brand" these days than they have ever done.
Greendubber said:
Pothole said:
carboy2017 said:
Indeed I also see a lot of time wasted by Surrey police on social media for stuff thats low on priority when resources are limited,like have a fun a safe way during guy fawkes night or how they respects LGBT etc ,I feel all that time and resources should be put on roadside patrols and proactive policing
All what time and resources? Would you like to quantify how many officer hours you believe have been "wasted" on this please?Pothole said:
Greendubber said:
Pothole said:
carboy2017 said:
Indeed I also see a lot of time wasted by Surrey police on social media for stuff thats low on priority when resources are limited,like have a fun a safe way during guy fawkes night or how they respects LGBT etc ,I feel all that time and resources should be put on roadside patrols and proactive policing
All what time and resources? Would you like to quantify how many officer hours you believe have been "wasted" on this please?
The police are being led by people who are more concerned about how things look rather than what is needed to be done.
It was the reason that the Rotherham and other abuse gangs were allowed to flourish as politically it wasn't seen as important an issue. The guy's on the beat know who the wrong un's are they know what the public want, more officers, more caught, more banged up and victims of crime treated better.
What politicians want is to avoid admitting they have lost control due to endless cuts and responding to small but vocal groups. Call a transgender a man and a whole team is on the case fearful of being hung out to dry for not doing something, yet the OP is having to police his area with others.
Do I think there is too much emphasis on speeding, yes, is it their fault, no. We the public need to get more shouty than the lobby groups on the police and their performance, more shouty on punishing criminals otherwise the situation will never change
It was the reason that the Rotherham and other abuse gangs were allowed to flourish as politically it wasn't seen as important an issue. The guy's on the beat know who the wrong un's are they know what the public want, more officers, more caught, more banged up and victims of crime treated better.
What politicians want is to avoid admitting they have lost control due to endless cuts and responding to small but vocal groups. Call a transgender a man and a whole team is on the case fearful of being hung out to dry for not doing something, yet the OP is having to police his area with others.
Do I think there is too much emphasis on speeding, yes, is it their fault, no. We the public need to get more shouty than the lobby groups on the police and their performance, more shouty on punishing criminals otherwise the situation will never change
spaximus said:
The police are being led by people who are more concerned about how things look rather than what is needed to be done.
It was the reason that the Rotherham and other abuse gangs were allowed to flourish as politically it wasn't seen as important an issue. The guy's on the beat know who the wrong un's are they know what the public want, more officers, more caught, more banged up and victims of crime treated better.
What politicians want is to avoid admitting they have lost control due to endless cuts and responding to small but vocal groups. Call a transgender a man and a whole team is on the case fearful of being hung out to dry for not doing something, yet the OP is having to police his area with others.
Do I think there is too much emphasis on speeding, yes, is it their fault, no. We the public need to get more shouty than the lobby groups on the police and their performance, more shouty on punishing criminals otherwise the situation will never change
Yup!It was the reason that the Rotherham and other abuse gangs were allowed to flourish as politically it wasn't seen as important an issue. The guy's on the beat know who the wrong un's are they know what the public want, more officers, more caught, more banged up and victims of crime treated better.
What politicians want is to avoid admitting they have lost control due to endless cuts and responding to small but vocal groups. Call a transgender a man and a whole team is on the case fearful of being hung out to dry for not doing something, yet the OP is having to police his area with others.
Do I think there is too much emphasis on speeding, yes, is it their fault, no. We the public need to get more shouty than the lobby groups on the police and their performance, more shouty on punishing criminals otherwise the situation will never change
Interestingly I saw this today.
Fair play to the guy defending his home. I'm keeping an eye on the post and as of right now, Police still haven't been out, either to home or car.
https://ring.com/share/6680965596255668191
Fair play to the guy defending his home. I'm keeping an eye on the post and as of right now, Police still haven't been out, either to home or car.
https://ring.com/share/6680965596255668191
spaximus said:
The police are being led by people who are more concerned about how things look rather than what is needed to be done.
Are they? Where are you concluding that from? I worked with quite a few and they weren't how you described. Some were obviously better than others, but the advantage of the police is (was) that everyone starts as a PC. Some don't stay there too long, but everyone has been on the ground and some things don't change. Most were acutely aware of the problems on the front line and cared about their responsibilities.
The New Labour years made the police so focused on crime, detections and reductions, that that came at the expense of things like CSE. If it wasn't getting measured it wasn't getting attention.
La Liga said:
spaximus said:
The police are being led by people who are more concerned about how things look rather than what is needed to be done.
Are they? Where are you concluding that from? I worked with quite a few and they weren't how you described. Some were obviously better than others, but the advantage of the police is (was) that everyone starts as a PC. Some don't stay there too long, but everyone has been on the ground and some things don't change. Most were acutely aware of the problems on the front line and cared about their responsibilities.
The New Labour years made the police so focused on crime, detections and reductions, that that came at the expense of things like CSE. If it wasn't getting measured it wasn't getting attention.
Many these days are in positions that they would not have risen to in the past but they know the buzz words to use and the boxes to tick. This is not about the good officers who want to do the job but too many from the Home Secretary down do not want to upset people.
We withdrew stop and search, because too many young blacks were targeted, and now it is the young blacks stabbing each other and dieing. No one a stepped out and said we should carry on as after the comments of "institutional racism" were in the open there appeared to be a rush to be more open, more understanding and to look the other way all at the same time tying officers up with reams of paperwork if they did do a stop and search.
As an officer, or ex officer La Liga, you will see it one way the public will see it differently, you will never get complaints from criminals if you never do anything and if the public complains it appears less care about their voices. And I stress this is not the majority of the police but directions taken by others
PCCs don't seem materially different to the replaced Police Authorities from what I can see.
What doesn't change are the rules which govern what is a priority in terms of deploying for emergencies, what is recorded and how to deal with people who have been arrested.
Most police activity is automated in this respect and will be the same across the entire country.
Most of it is also wasted. Most calls (over 80%) are non-crime and that reflects what the police do. Missing people, mental health and lots of other things that are a waste.
Those who complain about the odd social media investigation have no idea how irrelevant that time is vs the other things the police do which is a 'waste' of their time.
Research on S&S shows it not to be effective if used on a really wide basis.
What doesn't change are the rules which govern what is a priority in terms of deploying for emergencies, what is recorded and how to deal with people who have been arrested.
Most police activity is automated in this respect and will be the same across the entire country.
Most of it is also wasted. Most calls (over 80%) are non-crime and that reflects what the police do. Missing people, mental health and lots of other things that are a waste.
Those who complain about the odd social media investigation have no idea how irrelevant that time is vs the other things the police do which is a 'waste' of their time.
Research on S&S shows it not to be effective if used on a really wide basis.
Brads67 said:
So missing people and mental health issues are a waste of cop time ?
I’m not a cop so I say, broadly, yes. Missing people may need to be investigated but it should be absolutely minimal until / unless there is evidence of a crime eg kidnap or whatever. Why should we pay to waste police time on people that want to run away? Let them.I would repurpose police to be for looking after criminality and create new depts. for timewasting stuff like mental health etc. We could call it the nhs or similar. Also bring back drunk tanks and mental hospitals.
I might stand for parliament.
Brads67 said:
So missing people and mental health issues are a waste of cop time?
Most of the time, yes. MH issues are a health issue. The police have a limited role in MH but they're now mopping up the large excess the NHS can't manage.
Missing people range from low to high risk. A missing 4 year old is a lot different from a missing 17 year old who has left their care home to hang out with mates for the 50th time that year. Or MH patients reported as 'missing' because they've not returned.
The missing 'suicidal' person, who inevitably decides to be so on a Friday night is the gold medal winner for time consumption.
Pothole said:
La Liga said:
I worked with quite a few and they weren't how you described.
How long ago?Sounds more to be a default 'management don't have a clue' stereotype rather than being based on any reality.
yonex said:
No. The opposite.
The reality is people don't have much faith in the Police. That's because of the results.
I'll bite. The Police have finite resources. Want more? Pay more. Simple.The reality is people don't have much faith in the Police. That's because of the results.
The results? You can't CSI and crime scene every single crime.
If fingerprints can't be found at a burglary that's because there aren't any. What can the Police do beyond that?
As soon as you lock someone up, they are then released and reoffend within the week. Is that the Police's fault?
Tonight we'll lock up to our capacity. Everytime we lock up it takes upto 10hrs+ of interview and file work for the CPS. That takes instantly 1-2officers off the street immediately.
I've met many respectable working and middle class people who respect the police.
The immature and those who can't stick to the law don't.
Funny that.
I also like cars. Alot. I love driving cars at work. Funny that. So you can imagine it's Abit of a dream job getting to drive cars at work and catch bad people.
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